Stats for 1984 Wimbledon SF (Connors-Lendl)

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  1. Moose Malloy

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    Connors d Lendl 67(4), 63, 75, 61

    Connors was 31, Lendl was 24.

    Lendl had won their last meeting, 6-0, 6-0 in Forest Hills in May '84.

    my stats:

    Connors had 45 non service winners: 12 fh, 8 bh, 11 fhv, 12 bhv, 2 ov
    Lendl had 32: 14 fh, 12 bh, 2 fhv, 3 bhv, 1 ov

    Connors had 6 aces, 1 double
    Lendl had 18 aces, 6 doubles

    Connors was 87 of 126 on 1st serves, or 69%
    Lendl was 90 of 144 on 1st serves, or 62.5%

    Connors had 25 unreturned serves, 5 of which I judged as service winners
    Lendl had 21 unreturned serves, 5 of which I judged as service winners

    Connors was 6 of 14 on breakpoints, Lendl was 1 of 4

    Lendl was up a break in the 3rd set, 3-1

    Lendl hardly served & volleyed in this match at all, but came in on every serve in his SF with McEnroe the previous Wimbledon.
     
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  2. Moose Malloy

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    Winners by set

    Connors: 8, 7, 20, 10
    Lendl: 9, 4, 14, 5

    Connors hit 9 passing shot winners, Lendl 14(9 were bh's)

    krosero, do you know what Lendl's high in aces was? He had 17 after 3 sets in this match.
     
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  3. krosero

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    Maybe other Lendl fans know, but offhand I can't remember seeing him go over 20 aces.

    Against Connors in the '83 USO final, he had 17 clean aces by my count.
     
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  4. superman1

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    Yeesh, what's the story on that?
     
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  5. krosero

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    The Washington Post

    Can't help but notice how similar the pattern of the match was to their U.S. Open final ten months earlier, which Connors won 6-3, 6-7, 7-5, 6-0
     
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  6. Moose Malloy

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    This was one of the worst code violations I've seen, and Connors acted perfectly the entire match, so the umpire had no reason to pull the trigger like that.

    I was a bit surprised at how well Jimmy took it, some other players would have gone ballistic at getting a code out of nowhere.
     
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  7. krosero

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    Best I know of now is 29 against Dan Goldie, 1989 Wimbledon QF (7-6, 7-6, 6-0), per Philadelphia Inquirer.
     
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    interesting stats...looks like Connors served particularly well (based on total serve winners including un-returnables) and was very much the aggressor, given the volley winners. Would like very much to see this match again. I recall a very tense 3rd set, as Lendl could've run away with it. But, somehow, Connors found another gear and his game "caught fire" while Lendl receded. This was Connors last "big win" over Lendl on a major stage. And was pretty darn impressive.
     
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    Connors also beat Lendl at the then massive Tokyo Super Seiko final, baggeling him in one set, at the end of 1984.It was one of the world´s greatest indoor events of that era.
     
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    I remember watching this match live and unwisely expecting Lendl to win as if the French F was a cure all to his problems. But Connors' willyness was amplified on an unpredictable surface like grass. Lendl had the right tactic, chipping low to the forehand. But I am surprised to hear that he tired in a 4 set match. Clearly he still had a ways to go.
     
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    Lendl beaten by Mc Enroe in the 83 sf and Connors in the 84 sf was about normal.Nobody expected him to go down in the last 16 against Leconte in 1985, but Leconte always spelt trouble when inspired, and he clearly was inspired that fortnight, playing off his mind.Possibly his best tennis production ever.
     
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  12. Gizo

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    This was a strong and aggressive performance by Connors, and he showcased his grass court superiority over Lendl. Confident serving and he dealt with Lendl's attempt to blunt his power and chipped shots to his forehand well.

    That humorous incident at the start of the 4th set where the players had that exchange at the net 'Did you call it out?' 'I didn't call it out', was very funny. So much for the false myth of Lendl having no personality on the court. It's difficult to imagine modern day players doing that in an ATP 250 event nowadays, let alone a big Wimbledon semi-final.
     
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    yeah, it was great.Connors did some funny gestures when he heard Lendl ask him in his unique anglo czech accent " Did you call it out"?

    I think even Jimmy was upset at that attempt of humour by Lendl.
     
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    There was another incident early in the 80s (I can't remember the exact match) where Lendl hit a powerful serve that was just long and hit one of the line judges, who called it out. Lendl then joked 'did you say out or ouch'. Funny stuff.

    Definitely in the interview room, and possibly on the court as well, he had a much bigger sense of humour than McEnroe did during their playing days. If he had no personality, then 21st century notably funny interviewees and 'bad boys' like Roddick or Safin who were so tame compared to him, had no personalities either.
     
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    yes, that is a big difference.Lendl, the dull character of the 80´s, is a comic compared to the current croop.

    His press conferences were followed by al journalists because he would drop some deadly sentences or some dry humour speeches.

    I recall one when a french presswoman, who didn´t speak english well was constantly asking to him

    " And when Mc Enroe is your partner".He just gave her a cold look and answers " Mc Enroe is never my partner".

    The woman is confused and insists : " well, but Mc Enroe is often your partner".Once again, Lendl answers back " Mc Enroe has never been my partner"
    At this point, everybody understood that she meant " your opponent" and not " your partner" and, of course, Lendl had also noticed that.But when some english speaking journalist asked him to melt down a bit because the lady, obviously didn´t speak good english, he said
    " I know she means my opponent, but, anyway, whatever I say, you press guys just turn it around"...
     
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