Stats for Agassi-Sampras (1995 AO final)

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  1. Nadal_Power

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    I will soon publish point by point analyse of the match but I miss 9 or 10 points from first set. I'm downloading longer version of the match from the torrent, but its going slow at the moment :( maybe you will need to tell me few things about that points in a few days, if that's o.k of course
     
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  2. krosero

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    I think the whole match is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jFPZh_8lp8

    (If anything's missing I could help you though I won't have my dvd handy for another week or two).
     
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  3. Nadal_Power

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    I have that version and 8th game of first set and half of 9th are missing

    Cool, maybe 'till than I will download better version but will let you know
     
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  4. krosero

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    We have stats on that match here: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=230227
     
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  5. krosero

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    This is always an interesting stat, glad you did this.

    I'm sure you've seen my posts upthread where I got that stat for other Sampras-Agassi matches, but I'll re-post them so we can do a quick compare.

    So the rallies in their 1995 AO final were perhaps short, but for the most part they were longer than the average rally in those later matches.

    Big difference is that Sampras was SVing on all his serves, in those 1999-01 matches. At the AO in '95 he was staying back a lot. I'll re-post this quote from The Age:

    From the first few points it was clear that Sampras, the best serve-volleyer in the business, would only occasionally be attacking at the net. He said later that this was because of the quality of Agassi's returns, "the best in the world by far". But his unwillingess to volley left him trying to out-rally Agassi playing him at his own game.​
     
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  6. krosero

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    Additional stats

    Agassi won 58 of 72 points on 1st serve (71%) and 22 of 36 on 2nd serve (61%). He won the first 8 points started on his second serve.

    Sampras won 54 of 71 points on 1st serve (76%) and 30 of 68 on 2nd serve (44%). He won the first 13 points started on his first serve.


    Success on serve when serves were successfully returned:

    Agassi 56% on first serve (30/54) and 58% on second (14/24).
    Sampras 41% on first serve (12/29) and 32% on second (15/47).

    The serve that retained the greatest effect on the outcome of the point, if it was returned: Agassi’s second serve.



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    Agassi made 4 of 7 first serves in the tiebreak.
    Sampras made 4 of 7 first serves in the tiebreak.

    (It was the only tiebreak these two ever played in a Slam final.)

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    Agassi served on 118 points, and 36 serves did not come back: 30.5%
    Sampras served on 139 points, and 57 serves did not come back: 41.0%

    Agassi nearly kept even with Sampras in return errors when he could get his racquet on the ball; but a lot of aces got by him.

    Agassi drew 18 of 26 return errors with first serves.
    Sampras drew only 14 of 29 return errors with first serves.
     
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  7. Nadal_Power

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    I saw that, I always count how many shots were in the point, like that stat and it tells a lot. 2.85, 3.12 and 3.25 are great numbers, just compare that with boring tennis of today

    I do just like you, every clear hit and 1 stroke for double fault. I will do many matches point by point in the future, always with number of shots per player and per sets

    For example, in 1992 Masters Cup RR match between Sampras and Becker number of strokes per points was 2,7.. of 145 total points 127 were points with 1-4 strokes, 15 points with 5-8 strokes and only 3 points with 9-12 shots
     
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    I was at this match and you are correct, it was Agassi's come out of the closet about his baldness tournament. The Melbourne media nicknamed him the "Black Prince", sort of like a pirate, he had the goatie as well.

    Like I said, I was at this match and I was a big Sampras fan. Agassi was on fire the whole tournament, not having dropped a set before the final. Sampras on the otherhand had a couple of epic matches, especially the now famous match against Courier where he was crying on court because of his coach. Sampras won the first set but I had this strong feeling in my own mind that if it got to a set all Agassi would win, and that's what happened.
     
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  9. Tagg

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    agassi is the best in the open era at the AO

    surface was absolutely made for his game

    unfortunately for sampras, the AO was always a mixed bag

    he never seemed comfortable there, and lost to players he would normally routine on any other hard court

    pity really, because the 1R exit at RG aside, sampras was excellent at wimbledon and the US that year

    95 was definitely a crucial year in their rivlary. agassi lost it for a while afterwards, losing that US final after going 24(?) matches unbeaten
     
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  10. krosero

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    When facing break point, Agassi won 2 of 3 on first serve (67%) and 0 of 1 on second.

    When facing break point, Sampras won 5 of 7 on first serve (71%) and 11 of 14 on second (79%). On the 21 break points he faced, he delivered 8 unreturned serves (5 were second serves): an unreturned rate of 38%.


    Very impressive stat by Sampras on second serve. He won only 44% of his second serve points in the match as a whole, but when facing break point he was nearly twice as successful.
     
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