Stats for Borg-Connors (1981 USO SF)

krosero

Legend
Borg d. Connors 6-2, 7-5, 6-4

Borg called this his best big-match performance ever. In some ways that may be true, but he did serve at only 47% (per the New York Times).

He served 13 clean aces -- including three straight from love-40 down at 1-4 in the second.

And he hit one serve at 117 mph (game point for 4-all in the second). Pat Summerall thought only one serve by Tanner at 119 mph had been faster in the tournament.

(In the final Borg served one that CBS measured at 121 mph).

Connors said Borg served “extra-special”. Trabert said he couldn’t remember Borg serving with such authority. Borg thought it was the strongest serving he had done since his fifth set against McEnroe at Wimbledon, when he won 19 straight points on serve -- though he achieved the same stat in a fifth set against Tanner two months later.

Connors’ fastest serve after 16 games was 101 mph.

The match went in straight sets essentially because Borg held from love-40 when Connors had a chance to go up two breaks in the second set; he held again from love-40 when Connors had a chance to go up 3-1 in the third. The first time he did it with three straight aces, as noted above, and four altogether; the second time he did it without any aces.

Borg was 25 and seeded second. Connors was 29 and seeded third.

I think Connors may have been in better shape later, or at other times, in his career. He was sucking wind fairly noticeably after one point.

Newk said that the way for Connors to win was to move Borg around, wait for the short ball, and come in. But he wasn’t doing it, at least not as a plan.

Trabert said that Borg played a very smart match, changing speeds against Connors.

I think Connors started reading Borg’s serve better in the third set.

The match lasted 2 hr. 19 min.

CBS announced the first death threat against Borg as soon as the match was over, and then Borg was informed. The second death threat occurred during the final, and Borg was informed right after leaving the court.

Borg was broken once in the match, at 1-2 in second. Connors was broken 5 times.


My stats:

Borg had 13 aces and 2 doubles.
Connors had 1 ace and 2 doubles.

Borg had 17 winners apart from service: 9 FH, 4 BH, 1 FHV, 1 BHV, 2 overheads.

(I'm missing one point that he won on Connors' serve).

Connors had 21 winners apart from service: 7 FH, 2 BH, 7 FHV, 3 BHV, 2 overheads.

Borg had 2 FH return winners; one was a pass. He had an additional 5 passes (three BH's).

Connors had no winning returns, and 2 FH passes.


Stats by CBS:

At 3-4 in the third, Borg was serving at 49%, Connors at 79%.

At 1-2 in the third, Borg had won 26 of 35 points on first serve, 17 of 37 on "second serves in" (so this stat does not seem to include double-faults).

At 3-all in the third, Connors had won 34 of 64 points on the first, 8 of 18 on "second serves in".

At 2-3 in the third, Borg had 15 "unforced errors" on the FH, 11 on the BH. Connors had 17 on the FH, 14 on the BH. (I don't know if this stat include volleys or just groundstrokes; obviously, it doesn't include double-faults).
 
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CyBorg

Legend
Borg was at the peak of his abilities in 1981. Such a shame. He was killing Connors and this is the guy who won Wimbledon/US Open the next year. Gah.
 

krosero

Legend
From the Washington Post:

The Washington Post

September 13, 1981, Sunday, Final Edition

Austin Wins Title; McEnroe, Borg in Final;
Gerulaitis, Connors Lose in Semifinals;
McEnroe Struggles to Beat Gerulaiti

BYLINE: By John Feinstein, Washington Post Staff Writer

SECTION: Sports; D1

LENGTH: 1292 words

DATELINE: NEW YORK, Sept. 12, 1981



John McEnroe was lucky and courageous on a day when his skills were not sharp. Bjorn Borg was superb, serving perhaps the best tennis match of his life. But, even though their routes were different, they arrived at the same place tonight: the final of the U.S. Open.

McEnroe, who habitually bemoans the fates, his luck, line calls and various demons that plague his quest for tennis perfection, came away from his struggling 5-7, 6-3, 6-2, 4-6, 6-3 victory over Vitas Gerulaitis saying: "I was lucky."

Borg, who took the court at the National Tennis Center this evening unaware of a death threat telephoned to the main switch board 90 minutes before his match started, was smiling after his 6-2, 7-5, 6-3 rout of Jimmy Connors.


"I cannot remember the last time I served that well," he said, after recording 15 aces past one of the greatest serve returners the game has ever known. "If I can just serve like that tomorrow . . . "

That's when he plays McEnroe, who ended Borg's 41-match Wimbledon winning streak in the final there, and who has been fighting himself all week. Borg, 7-6 lifetime against McEnroe seems primed for this final.

"There are no secrets when we play," Borg said. "We know what the other one will do and we just go out and play. It should be a great match."

If Borg can serve as he did tonight, he will make it very difficult for McEnroe to win a third straight U.S. Open title. Today, McEnroe escaped only because of his grit and determination and because Gerulaitis could not come up with the one big shot he needed.

In all, Gerulaitis had 15 break points in the match. He converted two. In the final set he had nine break points. He converted none.

"I was just unlucky on those points," Gerulaitis said. "I didn't play the points badly; he just guessed right every time. He had all the luck. In the fifth set when that happens, it's too good. You can't beat that."

The 3 hour 47 minute marathon, which was more brutal than brilliant, ended in a swirl of controversy. On match point, serving at 5-3, 40-15, McEnroe nailed a first serve and Gerulaitis returned it weakly.

But McEnroe, who was unusually tentative at the net all day, almost shanked the easy forehand volley. The ball landed either just in or just out. Gerulaitis saw it out. The line judge, at the the opposite end of the court, called it good.

When there was no out call, Gerulaitis turned pleadingly to umpire Leon Lipp, expecting him to overrrule the linesman. Instead, all he heard was Lipp announcing: "Game, set, match, McEnroe."

"No," Gerulaitis screamed, "the ball was out." He was immediately echoed by many in the record crowd of 18,895, an audience that had loudly supported him throughout the match.

As McEnroe, who had spent much of his afternoon exchanging words with Lipp, stood silently at the net, apparently unsure whether to celebrate or apologize, Gerulaitis continued screaming.

He finished his tirade by shouting an obscenity at Lipp that most in the stands and all in the national TV audience heard. Later, that remark cost Gerulaitis $750. His total of $5,350 in fines this year means he faces a 21-day suspension from the Men's Professional Tennis Council for going over $5,000 in one year.

Finally, realizing his case was hopeless, Gerulaitis turned and shook McEnroe's hand. Lipp, however, wasn't finished. As Gerulaitis exited, Lipp said into the microphone, voice laced with sarcasm, "Goodbye, Mr. Gerulaitis."

"I hate to see a match end like that," Gerulaitis, still angry, said later. "Usually the last point is the most important. The ball was clearly out. There was at least an inch of green between the ball and the line.

"I didn't get robbed, because he might have served an ace on the next point. But the guy (McEnroe) was getting so nervous if I'd made him play the next point I might have gotten back to deuce."

McEnroe saw the call differently, but agreed it was a bad way for the match to end. But he was glad to escape on a warm, windy day when he was often without his best weapon: the first serve. The two men split the first four sets, taking turns playing outstanding tennis.

McEnroe looked home free after winning the second and third sets with ease, losing just 10 points in nine service games. But he slipped and slightly sprained his left ankle while serving at 1-1 in the fourth set. Even though he saved break point and held the game, the momentum began to swing after that delay.

McEnroe had an uphill struggle because while Gerulaitis was serving well, the two-time defending champion was fighting himself. Gerulaitis broke in the fifth game of the fourth. He nailed a backhand down the line to get to break point and then McEnroe stunned himself and everyone else by double faulting for the break.

Gerulaitis served out the set and immediately had three break points in the first game of the final set. But McEnroe came up with an answer each time. In the third game, Gerulaitis had 15-40 and again McEnroe climbed out of the hole.

Then in the fourth game, McEnroe and Lipp engaged in a lively argument when Lipp ordered a point which McEnroe had won replayed. A fan had returned a loose ball in the middle of the point, and Gerulaitis claimed it distracted him.

"I might have done the same thing Vitas did in that situation," McEnroe said. "All I wanted was an explanation. I never got it."

Instead he got a time warning from Lipp and a broken string on his racquet, the result of his banging the racquet on the CBS mike boom directed at him during the conversation. As he returned to the court, McEnroe was booed.

He responded two ways: first by waving his hand as if by acknowledging cheers, second by winning four of the next five points for the crucial break of the match.

"The delay didn't affect me," Gerulaitis said. "I just served a bad game."

In the seventh game, Gerulaitis had four more break points. On the first three, McEnroe came up with saving shots, one a remarkable running crosscourt forehand. On the fourth, following a first serve, he tripped and almost netted a backhand volley. But it caught the net cord and the ball barely slid over.

Connors also had chances in his ninth straight loss to Borg dating back to the 1978 final here, but Borg gave him no chance to convert them. Each time Connors had Borg in trouble, the Swede rifled a serve.

Connors also fought with officialdom today, echoing earlier comments by Gerulaitis and McEnroe that the Open's corps of five line judges (as opposed to Wimbledon's 12) is defective. He screamed at umpire Jay Snyder early in the match when he failed to overrule calls that appeared wrong and called for umpire Mike Blanchard in venting more of his frustration later in the set.

But the line judges were not, as Connors himself said, his undoing. "He just outserved me," Connors said. "Almost every time I had him 0-40 or 15-40, he served his way out of it. I can't remember him serving like that against me."

Neither could Borg. "It's been a long time since I served that well," he said. "From the first game tonight, I was playing well."

Mindful of Wimbledon where he fell two sets down to Connors before coming back, Borg was all over him from the beginning. The match was full of marvelous rallies from the base line, but Borg's serve was the extra weapon he needed.

In the second set, down 1-4 and 0-40, with Connors pumped up, flailing his arms and the crowd right behind him, Borg served his way clear, with four aces in the next five points. Then he broke Connors twice in the next three serving games, each time with a backhand pass to win the set 7-5.

After that it was just a matter of time.

"Am I haunted by him?" Connors snapped when asked the question. "Why should I be. Is he a ghost?"
 

krosero

Legend
New stats

I have these new stats, and again made minor corrections to the original post.


Borg won 109 points overall, Connors 89.


Borg had 83% success on first serve (38/46) and 52% on second (28/54). He won all 13 points he played on first serve in the third set, comparable to McEnroe going 10 of 10 in the second set of the 1980 final here.

Connors had 58% success on first serve (44/76) and 50% on second (11/22).


Borg served at 46%, making 46 of 100 first serves.
Connors served at 78%, making 76 of 98 first serves.

The winner served more points than the loser, which was not true in any of the other six matches we’ve done for this rivalry (76USO, 77-79 W, 78USO, 81W).


Borg’s percentage by set:
12/28 - 42.9%
21/38 - 55.3%
13/34 - 38.2%


Connors’ percentage by set:
23/28 - 82.1%
31/39 - 79.5%
22/31 - 71.0%


Borg converted 5 of 7 break points, Connors 1 of 12.

Borg got his first serve into play on 7 of 12 break points. The only time he was broken it was on second serve.

Connors got his first serve into play on 6 of 7 break points. He was broken 4 times on first serve, once on second.


Borg drew 24 return errors, Connors 9. Out of those serves I gave Borg 6 service winners, Connors 1.

Borg drew 7 return errors with second serve, Connors 2.


ERRORS (forced and unforced)

Subtracting the winners and aces from the total points won:

Borg made 67 total errors. Of those I counted 9 return errors and 2 double-faults. That leaves him making 56 errors in points that had at least a successful service return, that is, in rallies.

Connors made 79 total errors. Of those I counted 24 return errors and 2 double-faults. That leaves him making 53 errors in rallies.
 
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Borgforever

Hall of Fame
Thanks krosero! Impeccable as usual. Any chance of getting a breakdown of the 76 Wimby final? Or is that my job?

Be that as it may, I thought the umpire made a dismal job in the first set here -- it might not have made a difference in the end -- but the palpable frustration on Connors behalf at the start did severely break his rythm as well as his mood paving the way for a relaxed Björn. IMO Connors was right on all bad calls in the start. Borg said to Swedish reporters after the match (Grive, Hellberg) that Connors was right in protesting and that definitely colored the first set.

Borg said he didn't like winning because of bad luck on the other guy's part -- but he also said that had he involved himself into the conflict it would've broken his concentration. Borg said:"I can't understand why the umpire must be so adamant in a questionable call? Why not just say 'play a let'? There's so much prestige and money and weeks of prep and paying spectators and TV and media -- if they say 'play a let' the situation calms down for everybody involved. I don't understand it quite frankly." Anyone disagree with Borg?
 

krosero

Legend
Thanks krosero! Impeccable as usual. Any chance of getting a breakdown of the 76 Wimby final? Or is that my job?

Be that as it may, I thought the umpire made a dismal job in the first set here -- it might not have made a difference in the end -- but the palpable frustration on Connors behalf at the start did severely break his rythm as well as his mood paving the way for a relaxed Björn. IMO Connors was right on all bad calls in the start. Borg said to Swedish reporters after the match (Grive, Hellberg) that Connors was right in protesting and that definitely colored the first set.

Borg said he didn't like winning because of bad luck on the other guy's part -- but he also said that had he involved himself into the conflict it would've broken his concentration. Borg said:"I can't understand why the umpire must be so adamant in a questionable call? Why not just say 'play a let'? There's so much prestige and money and weeks of prep and paying spectators and TV and media -- if they say 'play a let' the situation calms down for everybody involved. I don't understand it quite frankly." Anyone disagree with Borg?
I didn't mention this back when you posted it, BF, but I like these little bits of information -- they add to the story. Thanks for posting them.
 

krosero

Legend
Additional stats

Borg had 83% success on first serve (38/46) and 52% on second (28/54). He won all 13 points he played on first serve in the third set, comparable to McEnroe going 10 of 10 in the second set of the 1980 final here.

Connors had 58% success on first serve (44/76) and 50% on second (11/22).
Success on serve in rallies of 2 or more good shots:

Borg 50% on first serve (8/16) and 47% on second (21/45).
Connors 53% on first serve (36/68 ) and 50% on second (9/18 ).
 

WCT

Professional
Krosero, a question. When you say after rallies of 2 or more shots, what is the first shot? The return of serve or the shot after? Like if Connors hits a return and Borg hits a clean winner off that return. Is that counted in your stats?
 

krosero

Legend
Krosero, a question. When you say after rallies of 2 or more shots, what is the first shot? The return of serve or the shot after? Like if Connors hits a return and Borg hits a clean winner off that return. Is that counted in your stats?
The first shot is the serve. So this is a measure of all points in which a serve was successfully returned. It sets aside all aces and double-faults, and all instances in which the returner gets a piece of the racquet on the ball but fails to make a good return.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
I watched this match for the first time and took down the stats not yet there here :

FH wing UEs :

Borg : 13 (including 2 volley errors, 1 overhead error and 1 return error)
Connors : 19 (including 1 volley error, 1 return error and 1 overhead error)

BH wing UEs:

Borg : 11 (including 1 return error)
Connors : 16 (including 5 return errors)

FH wing FEs: (including service winners)

Borg : 21
Connors : 18 (including 1 service winner)

BH wing FEs: (including service winners)

Borg : 20
Connors : 23 (including 5 service winners)

Net points :

Borg : 21/36 (58.33%) (was 5/8 on SnV -- all of them on 1st serves)
Connors : 30/45 (66.67%) (was 2/5 on SnV -- all of them on 1st serves)

Unreturned serves (including service winners) :

Borg : 24 (17&7)
Connors 9 (7&2)

I included the service winners in errors here because I wasn't tracking the winners in this match

All unreturned serves (including aces):
Borg : 37 (30&7) ...... 37/100 = 37%
Connors : 10 (8&2) ......10/98 = 10.2%

Out of the 41 errors that Borg forced from Connors :
18 were from serve (including 6 service winners)
10 from forehand (including 2 returns)
13 from backhand (including 2 returns, 2 slices)

Out of the 41 errors that Connors forced from Borg :
7 were from serve
17 from forehand
14 from backhand (including 2 lobs, 2 returns and 1 slice)
1 each from backhand volley, forehand volley and OH
 
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abmk

Bionic Poster
Edit :

This gives me 67 errors total for Borg (including 2 DFs)
But only 78 total for Connors (including 2 DFs)
 
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WCT

Professional
I watched this match for the first time and took down the stats not yet there here :

FH wing UEs :

Borg : 13 (including 2 volley errors, 1 overhead error and 1 return error)
Connors : 19 (including 1 volley error, 1 return error and 1 overhead error)

BH wing UEs:

Borg : 11 (including 1 return error)
Connors : 16 (including 5 return errors)

FH wing FEs: (including service winners)

Borg : 21
Connors : 18 (including 1 service winner)

BH wing FEs: (including service winners)

Borg : 20
Connors : 22 (including 4 service winners)

Net points :

Borg : 20/35 (57.14%) (was 4/7 on SnV -- all of them on 1st serves)
Connors : 30/45 (66.67%) (was 2/5 on SnV -- all of them on 1st serves)

Unreturned serves (including service winners) :

Borg : 23 (16&7)
Connors 9 (7&2)

I included the service winners in errors here because I wasn't tracking the winners in this match

All unreturned serves (including aces):
Borg : 36 (29&7)
Connors : 10 (8&2)

Out of the 40 errors that Borg forced from Connors :
17 were from serve
10 from forehand (including 2 returns)
13 from backhand (including 2 returns, 2 slices)

Out of the 41 errors that Connors forced from Borg :
7 were from serve
17 from forehand
14 from backhand (including 2 lobs, 2 returns and 1 slice)
1 each from backhand volley, forehand volley and OH

These are for the entire match? And this is their 81 match? I have some major differences. Unreturned serves I have 33 to 19 for Borg. My net stats are much different as well. I have 40 of 58 for Connors and 31 for 60 for Borg. You only have Borg s/v 7 times in the 5 sets? And Borg never s/v on the 2nd serve. Not 76 thru 81. Early on, like in the 73 Roger Taylor match, he might have s/v on some 2nd serves.

Probably been a good 5 years, at least, since I did the stats for this match. But those are some pretty big differences to have.
I have Connors with 9 unreturned servess in the 77 Wimbledon final and wondered if I picked up the wrong number somehow.
But the original paper I use I throw out when I move the summary numbers to another paper.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
These are for the entire match? And this is their 81 match? I have some major differences. Unreturned serves I have 33 to 19 for Borg. My net stats are much different as well. I have 40 of 58 for Connors and 31 for 60 for Borg. You only have Borg s/v 7 times in the 5 sets? And Borg never s/v on the 2nd serve. Not 76 thru 81. Early on, like in the 73 Roger Taylor match, he might have s/v on some 2nd serves.

Probably been a good 5 years, at least, since I did the stats for this match. But those are some pretty big differences to have.
I have Connors with 9 unreturned servess in the 77 Wimbledon final and wondered if I picked up the wrong number somehow.
But the original paper I use I throw out when I move the summary numbers to another paper.

This is for their USO SF, not their Wimbledon SF.
And Borg did not SnV on 2nd serves except once in a rare while (as a surprise)
 

WCT

Professional
Okay, thanks. That explains it. LOL, Borg s/v on most of his 1st serves in that Wimbledon match. In my memory, anyway. Funny enough, I never did the stats on their 81 US Open match.

In their later matches, Borg would s/v some, against Connors, even on other surfaces. But it was almost always in the deuce court, wide to Connors bh. The January 81 Masters match. My guess is he did it at least 15 times. Definitely not all the time, but mixed in.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
I think I found the discrepancy for the 1 unreturned serve for Borg.

At 1-0 , 15-40, Borg hit a serve that was a service winner , Connors barely got a racquet to it, but was counted officially as an ace. I let that go as an ace as well. Now, adding that as a service winner.

Also while fast-forwarding to look at the unreturned serves for Borg, I also noticed I had missed 1 SnV attempt from him (on an unreturned serve). Edited my stats to reflect this.

Basically 1 point is missing. I think as krosero mentions in his OP, it was on Connors serve and Borg won it.
That won't affect unreturned serve stats, so added the unreturned serve%s as well.
 
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abmk

Bionic Poster
Comments :

Borg's 1st serve% wasn't high, but he was serving well. hugely clutch and got in aces/unreturnables whenever he needed them.
He mixed up his ground game very well - topspin and flat along with some slice thrown in at times. Went in to the net on a good enough amount of points, many of them on good approach shots, but was rushing a bit in the 1st half of the 2nd set -- the only part of the match where Borg was not playing well. Returned Connors serve pretty well.

Connors started off below par in the 1st set, but played better in the 2nd and 3rd sets. Borg was down 1-4,0-40 in the 2nd set, but came up with 3 aces to save 3 BPs and then another service winner to save a 4th. If Connors had broken then, that was the set.

A couple of good points from Borg and couple of UEs from Connors and Borg broke back after that.
Then a mediocre game from Connors to get broken at 5 all (from 40-15, DF, rally won by Borg with a FH DTL winner, FH UE from Connors, even worse FH UE from Connors). Should have taken it to a TB atleast.

Connors went in on net a good amount of times and some good approach shots, but Borg's passing was stellar.
I thought Connors could've done better on Borg's 2nd serves early on. At 1-2,15-0 in the 2nd set, Borg was 13/18 on 2nd serves.

All in all, a stellar performance from Borg and a decent one from Connors.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Okay, thanks. That explains it. LOL, Borg s/v on most of his 1st serves in that Wimbledon match. In my memory, anyway. Funny enough, I never did the stats on their 81 US Open match.

In their later matches, Borg would s/v some, against Connors, even on other surfaces. But it was almost always in the deuce court, wide to Connors bh. The January 81 Masters match. My guess is he did it at least 15 times. Definitely not all the time, but mixed in.

Yeah, Borg SnVed on most of 1st serves at Wimbledon. Only did it some times to mix it up on other surfaces.
 

KG1965

Legend
Comments :

Borg's 1st serve% wasn't high, but he was serving well. hugely clutch and got in aces/unreturnables whenever he needed them.
He mixed up his ground game very well - topspin and flat along with some slice thrown in at times. Went in to the net on a good enough amount of points, many of them on good approach shots, but was rushing a bit in the 1st half of the 2nd set -- the only part of the match where Borg was not playing well. Returned Connors serve pretty well.

Connors started off below par in the 1st set, but played better in the 2nd and 3rd sets. Borg was down 1-4,0-40 in the 2nd set, but came up with 3 aces to save 3 BPs and then another service winner to save a 4th. If Connors had broken then, that was the set.

A couple of good points from Borg and couple of UEs from Connors and Borg broke back after that.
Then a mediocre game from Connors to get broken at 5 all (from 40-15, DF, rally won by Borg with a FH DTL winner, FH UE from Connors, even worse FH UE from Connors). Should have taken it to a TB atleast.

Connors went in on net a good amount of times and some good approach shots, but Borg's passing was stellar.
I thought Connors could've done better on Borg's 2nd serves early on. At 1-2,15-0 in the 2nd set, Borg was 13/18 on 2nd serves.

All in all, a stellar performance from Borg and a decent one from Connors.
A good job either your that of krosero.

However, if the overall points are true (109 v 89), the difference is only Borg's great serve.

Despite being dominated by Borg as a final score, Connors > Borg in the game if you exclude the serve. Or not? :cool:
 

KG1965

Legend
@abmk @krosero
A good job either your that of krosero.

However, if the overall points are true (109 v 89), the difference is only Borg's great serve.

Despite being dominated by Borg as a final score, Connors > Borg in the game if you exclude the serve. Or not? :cool:
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
@abmk @krosero
A good job either your that of krosero.

However, if the overall points are true (109 v 89), the difference is only Borg's great serve.

Despite being dominated by Borg as a final score, Connors > Borg in the game if you exclude the serve. Or not? :cool:

No, they were fairly even in the rallies (I'd say Borg was actually a tad better)
Yes, 27 points difference in free points on serve, but Borg would've still won more of those if they were returned , they were mostly on his 1st serves . he'd get some more FH putaways for instance.
 

KG1965

Legend
No, they were fairly even in the rallies (I'd say Borg was actually a tad better)
Yes, 27 points difference in free points on serve, but Borg would've still won more of those if they were returned , they were mostly on his 1st serves . he'd get some more FH putaways for instance.
So not are 109 v 89 overall...
If are 109-89 ... only 20 points...

Maybe it is I who do not understand .. but IMHO this is a important point.
 
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jrepac

Hall of Fame
I haven't watched this one...but, wasn't this the match where the press wrote off Connors "once and for all?" Which in turn fueled the fire for his 1982 march back? I also think if Gueralitis got past Mac, Borg surely would've had the USO title he so desired. It is remarkable that Borg shut down JC so effectively on his best surface, in his favorite arena. He was just that good....but, I also think that Mac had "figured out" how to beat Borg in 1981...whereas JC did not (but came close at W)
 

WCT

Professional
Yeah, Borg SnVed on most of 1st serves at Wimbledon. Only did it some times to mix it up on other surfaces.


My guess is he s/v on every 1st serve in the 80 and 81 Wimbledon finals. And on zero 2nd serves.

My memory of the 81 USO semi is that Borg actually made more unforced errors than he would at his best. Served very big. Summerall raved about how he played like it was the best he'd ever seen from him. I didn't agree at the time.Certainly played well, but, for example, 78 Wimbledon final well? I don't recall thinking that.

Connors coming in 45 times was also a surprise. My memory would have said no. I would have guessed he came in more than Borg. That part I got right.

I also don't recall this being some final nail in the coffin for Connors where the press was concerned. Seems to me that most thought that Mac and Borg had passed him before this match.

Hell, even in 82 after he'd won Wimbledon, I don't recall a lot of people thinking he'd win the USO. I distinctly remember Newcombe and Trabert previewing the final the day before. Neither thought Connors would win.

Still shaking my head. I somehow read the thread header as Wimbledon. It's why I asked the question. How the hell I did it is the mystery.
 

Gizo

Hall of Fame
With Borg's impressive victory over Connors, and Mac struggling to beat Gerulaitis in the other semi-final (Broadway Vitas had his chances to win that but kept blowing break points), a lot of people gave Borg a pretty decent shot of beating Mac in the final. Mac was feeling the pressure of becoming the first man since Tilden to win the tournament 3 times in a row (he was getting fed up of being asked about it all the time).

But of course it wasn't to be.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
With Borg's impressive victory over Connors, and Mac struggling to beat Gerulaitis in the other semi-final (Broadway Vitas had his chances to win that but kept blowing break points), a lot of people gave Borg a pretty decent shot of beating Mac in the final. Mac was feeling the pressure of becoming the first man since Tilden to win the tournament 3 times in a row (he was getting fed up of being asked about it all the time).

But of course it wasn't to be.

yes, the commentators were clearly more impressed by Borg's form in the semi than Mac's in hiis vs Gerulaitis.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
My guess is he s/v on every 1st serve in the 80 and 81 Wimbledon finals. And on zero 2nd serves.

My memory of the 81 USO semi is that Borg actually made more unforced errors than he would at his best. Served very big. Summerall raved about how he played like it was the best he'd ever seen from him. I didn't agree at the time.Certainly played well, but, for example, 78 Wimbledon final well? I don't recall thinking that.

Connors coming in 45 times was also a surprise. My memory would have said no. I would have guessed he came in more than Borg. That part I got right.

I also don't recall this being some final nail in the coffin for Connors where the press was concerned. Seems to me that most thought that Mac and Borg had passed him before this match.

Hell, even in 82 after he'd won Wimbledon, I don't recall a lot of people thinking he'd win the USO. I distinctly remember Newcombe and Trabert previewing the final the day before. Neither thought Connors would win.

Still shaking my head. I somehow read the thread header as Wimbledon. It's why I asked the question. How the hell I did it is the mystery.

I remember Borg staying back on some 1st serves and throwing in surprise 2nd serve SnV when I watched his Wim matches.

81 USO semi -- I think you could say it was his best on HC, not overall, maybe not as good as Wim 78 final and certainly not when he compared to the level he could produce on clay.

Yes, Borg made more UEs than usual, but that was because he was trying to be more aggressive, trying to mix it up. It was the right strategy. There was some stunning blows on both sides in this match.
 

WCT

Professional
To be clear, for every 1st serve, I'm only talking 80 and 81 Wimbledon. With 2nd serves I don't remember it ever 76 thru 81.
I did the stats for the 4 matches with Connors. Now, I didn't keep s/v stats for his 2nd serve, but I'd bet he didn't do it once in those 4 matches.

I just watched all his service games from the 1st 2 sets of the 80 final. And his 1st game in thee 3rd. It's what I thought for those games. Does it every first serve and none of the second. At one point, in the 1st, John Barrett comments that he doesn't seem to know what to do because he does both. No, he's completely consistent. It just depends on whether his 1st serve goes in.
He faces multiple break points late in the 2nd. It's not, uh oh, I better stay back. He has a strategy and sticks to it. For those 2 sets, anyway.

Tried youtube. Not there. SO many matches gone that used to be up. i could only find a small partial.
 
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