String suggestion for Wilson KPS88?

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  1. thatguymattin

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    I'm looking for a string to compliment the KPS88. I don't usually break strings fast, and I'm looking for a string that is durable, but would also not feel 'dead'.

    I was considering having a hybrid setup with a lower end natural gut in the mains and 4g in the crosses. Even though I'm not much of a string breaker, I think it's been because I've only played mostly with copolys. i.e. rpm blast, spiky shark, and black magic. (I've played with a multi/copoly hybrid, but the setup died before ever breaking; so I just cut them out; the multi was fraying.)
    I have two sets of topspin cyber blue to try out once my strings break on my Blade 93, but that's a totally different frame.

    All in all, I'm looking for a nice string or string setup that would work nicely in a kps88.

    KPS88 users, any recommendations? I would appreciate any suggestion.
     
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  2. maxpotapov

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    Pacific Tough Gut 16 mains / Weiss Cannon Mosquito Bite 18

    $19+$5 = $24 will last for the looooong time, if you are not a string breaker. And will never feel dead.

    Tested in Prestige Mid @48/48 lbs. Don't go any higher as Tough Gut is really tough.
     
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    I have read that a lot of players play gut at a higher tension with he KPS88. As high as 65 lbs.
     
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  4. maxpotapov

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    Which gut?
    Try Babolat BT7 or Pacific Tough Gut at 65 lbs and see how you like playing with frying pan ;)

    Besides, we talk about gut/poly hybrid at sub-50 lbs tension, not full natural gut. Google Federer's string tension...
     
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  5. thatguymattin

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    Even though those strings are recommended to be strung at lower tensions, I'm not sure if they would be good for me. The gauge of the mosquito bite seems intimidating, and I think I would break is very easily..
     
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    I just remembered that. I think I'd want to to a setup with a higher setup, say 57/55.
     
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    Then you'll be fine with regular natural gut, like Pacific Classic, crossed with Mosquito Bite 18 or MSV Co-Focus 1.18 like everybody does.

    There is no need for 4G, really.
     
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    Any experience with Yonex Poly Tour in a hybrid setup? I'm still feeling hesitant with the Mosquito Bite...
     
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    I am really torn between choice of crosses.

    My options for crosses include:

    Yonex Poly Tour Pro or Spin
    Weiss Cannon Mosquito Bite and Scorpion

    For my mains, I'm not really sure what gut to get. I've read that Klip Legend is more stiff than Pacific Classic gut. I'm curious to what KPS88 users have to say because the racquet is a peculiar one.

    How long does the Tough gut and Mosquito bite last for you maxpotapov?
     
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    I want to save money by not stringing too often, and that can only be achieved if tension stability, durability, and longevity is good. I may just opt out and get a full bed of Klip Legend or 4g... Ahh this is giving me a headache!
     
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  12. maxpotapov

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    Like I said before, 40+ hours of relaxed hitting
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=486043

    If I would hit harder this would still be a 20+ hours setup.
    Which is excellent for me, considering the cost (I don't have a stringing machine) and playability.
     
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    Scorpion is a lively poly and Weiss Cannon strings usually hold tension well.
     
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    Tough Gut 16 mains at 56 lbs. Pro Line X 16/16L crosses. Tension depends on your stringer.

    Pro Line X has high playability while dead.
     
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    Much appreciated everyone.

    Many of you guys recommend Pacific Tough Gut, so I'm leaning towards that now. I've read that in a hybrid with tough gut, the second half is usually short, how much should I prestretch it by? Also, what gauge is preferred with Tough Gut, 16, 16L, or 17?
     
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    Thanks, the price will be two dollars more, but that is okay I suppose.

    Anyone have any experience with stringing a kps88? I believe tensions on that racquet is very peculiar so I would appreciate any insight on it.
     
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  18. Booger

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    Natty gut. String it tight and see if you can break it as fast as Pete.
     
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    Oh that's defiantly very helpful.
     
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  20. Booger

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    Don't overthink it. Old racquets were made for natural gut. You have to try a full bed of it at least once.
     
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    It's actually coming in with a full bed of wilson ng, the old one. It's not that old... I think the KPro Staff 88 was released 2009 or 2010. I would go for a full bed, but ng doesn't produce a lot of spin on it's own. That's why I'm looking for a hybrid that's good.
     
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    Last time I played with KPS88, I produced unbelievable amount of spin for 30 minutes or so. And then my arm got too tired...

    Point is, no string will help you much with KPS88, if you can't turn this racquet around the ball quick enough for long enough.
     
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    I don't think that's an issue for me. I've just read that the kps88 is very string sensitive and peculiar on tension because of its power potential. A lot of people use gut in a full bed high 50's to medium 60's for that frame. I'm wondering because gut produces a very powerful ball, but now that you say tough gut is very stiff when strung high, I'm not sure what tension to put it at when I do get it. I'd string the kps88 at 60 with a full bed of gut, now the question is, how high should it be strung when in a hybrid? 57 or 55 for normal gut, and 55 or 53 with tough gut?
     
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    ^^ No no, I only said Pacific Tough Gut and Babolat BT7 gut is too stiff for anything above 50 lbs in hybrid setup.
     
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    Yeah I took that into consideration. That's why I said normal gut (Implying regular gut that isn't tougher) , when in a hybrid, maybe 57 or 55 lbs for the kps88 in the mains because I'd string normal gut (the regular gut again) at 60 lbs if it were a full bed.

    Now because you said it's too stiff over 50 lbs, because I'd string regular gut at 57 or 55 in mains, I said 55 or 53 would be good for tough gut. (too compensate for the kps88's power)

    I'm not sure if you understand what I'm trying to say, but I took your suggestion into consideration.
     
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    55 or 53 - maybe, but you will see Tough Gut is probably least powerful among all natural gut strings. Once it's broken in, it plays a bit more lively, but this is compensated by poly cross (such as Mosquito Bite) losing elasticity.
     
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    Would you say 53/55 is a good setup with Tough Gut in the mains, and Mosquito Bite in the crosses? Or would you suggest bite to be in a lower tension than mains. Take into consideration the kps88's power.

    I just really want to find the right tension where I don't want to send the ball flying, and where I don't have to over generate power to compensate. I can generate my own power, that's why I'm leaning towards higher tensions.
     
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    53/53 lbs should be fine, just try and see.

    Do not complicate things with mains/cross differential, or you can google Federer's setup if you want to experiment.
     
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    I was thinking the mosquito bite should be higher since is loses more tension than tough gut if I'm correct. I'll try out this setup when I restring my racquets.

    Thanks
     
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    Wow I haven't used this racquet in a while. I miss the power and plush sweetspot. Of all the racquets Ive tried this felt the sweetest on contact, I'll always miss that buttery feel but not the elbow pain. I used a full bed of tecnifibre x one biphase 16g. I kind of wish I never sold this racquet.
     
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    Mine just came in today, and I'm very exited to see it in action later tonight! I thought it would be heavier o:

    I'm exited to try natural gut on a new racquet for the first time. I tried it on a wood racquet, and it felt very smooth, but the wooden racquet was very unforgiving.
     
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    Although my racquet is not necessarily an old frame, I hit with it today, and booooooy there's a lot of power... Full bed of wilson natural gut @61 lbs ( should be around 55-58 lbs now though since it was strung a long time ago.

    I was thinking about mosquito bite, and then I thought I should get a reel of a string that will work in my other frames too. I'm not sure a full bed of mosquito bite is good for my frames, so is there anything that is a copoly preferably 17g or 17L that would do wonders with my kps88 with tough gut mains, and have the durability and playability option in a full bed in my blade 93?
     
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