Stringing/tennis elbow

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by love2play, Aug 11, 2007.

  1. love2play

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    I am an intermediate player with an elbow problem, but I don't like the way I play with a head-light, heavy racquet. I need something oversize with more power, but not too head heavy.

    I am now trying to decide between a Volkl DNX 3 and a Dunlop 900 Aerogel. The Volkl looks better on paper -- it's even weighted, a bit heavier, etc. -- but when I test it I feel the vibration more in my wrist than with the more head heavy and lighter Dunlop.

    Should I buy the Volkl anyway and just get different string (what kind?) and have it strung at a different setting?
     
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  2. ClimbK2

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    I can't speak for those specific racquets, however I'd plan to play with a soft string. Perhaps natural gut mains, & a soft multi on the crosses to save $. Lower tension's good too.

    have your stokes examined by a pro too. 1H BHs often cause problems, e.g. leading with your elbow

    Lot's of good posts on the topic, although it looks like you've done some research already.
     
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  3. goober

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    I think you should demo some more racquets. The Dunlop has a stiffness of 72 which is very high and not good for your elbow. It is also extended length which is not good fo your elbow.

    If you really think you would like the racquet though you could add lead tape to the handle to make it heavier and headlight.
     
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  4. love2play

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    Stiffness

    Thanks, Goober. Most of the racquets I like do have the 27.5 length. But the Volkl's stiffness is just 68, so that is better than the Dunlop, too. Or is that difference really meaningless, not enough?
     
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  5. anirut

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    What's the racket you're playing with now? What's your string tension and string type? May be you could try changing just the strings?

    These info will be very helpful.
     
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  6. Gantz

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    aren't longer rackets more arm-friendly due to the more absorbtion of the shock from the frame?
     
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  7. Steve Huff

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    Goober makes an excellent point about the extra-length rackets. I used them for a while when they first came out. After thinking I needed elbow surgery, I decided to start using an older frame again. My TE disappeared within 3 months. I ended up buying a few new Pro Kennex 5gs. They saved my arm. Sometime later, I decided I needed a little more pop. I bought a Pro Kennex 15g. It was 27.5" long, had the kinetic, supposedly "arm-saving" material inside, and had that extra pop I was looking for. By the end of 1 season, my tennis elbow was back again to the point I knew I couldn't keep using the longer, more powerful frames. Back to the 5g. Tennis elbow gone. There are plenty of rackets out there that won't hurt your arm. Longer, stiffer, more powerful frames are NOT among them. I don't think you'll find too many PK's anymore, but a couple of the frames I've used without problems are: 1)Fischer M Speed 105--really nice frame, flexible, 27", 2) Head iRadical OS--the new Flexpoint is probably nice too. 107", 27" long, fairly good power 3) Prince O3 Tour MP--95 sq in, 27" long, good control, Wilson n 6.1--95sq in, 27" long, great volleying racket. I've heard that some of the Yonex frames are nice too, I just haven't tried them. I'm using a Pro Supex Dynamic Energy frame now. It's similar to a Babolat Aeropro Drive. I get good power. I'm just hoping it's not going to bother my arm. It's 27" long, yet a little stiffer than the Fischer I was using. If playing in pain or reducing the number of times you play is an acceptable alternative, go for the long rackets. If not, listen to advice from others who have been there. If you have arm problems, stay with standard length rackets that aren't too stiff.
     
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  8. goober

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    68 is better than 72 and and probably noticeable, but most people with elbow problems should be looking at the 64 or lower range. The problem is that with light OS racquets are typically made stiff to compensate for the lighter weight. You may want to look into the DNV V1 OS version. I think the specs are better than either the Dunlop 900 or DNX3. It is also known for its arm comfort but I have never hit with it personally.

    Don't forget to string at the lower end of recommended tension with a soft string i.e. natural gut or multi synthetic.
     
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  9. love2play

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    27 vs 27.5

    How can half an inch on the length make that much difference on how your arm feels? I am not doubting your experience, just don't understand why.

    Also, interestingly, the ad shows that Dunlop's weight at 72, but the racquet itself, which I am demo-ing, shows it at 69.
     
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  10. Steve Huff

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    It's a matter of leverage. 1/2" doesn't seem like a lot, but when it comes to leverage, it is. Longer rackets can generate more power and spin only because they are further from your hand (the fulcrum), so as the hand turns, the furthest out points move faster in an arc than any point closer to the fulcrum. Likewise, when something (the ball) contacts a point further out, it applies more leverage to the other end (the hand, arm, elbow). Some of the engineer players here could probably tell you by how much the leverage increases. I can't, but I know it's significant.
     
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  11. goober

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    Moment is increased by the extra length. From raqcuet research:

    As for your other note: TW measures RA and other specs on 3 different racquets and averages them from what I understand. Often there are discrepancies from the manufacture's specs.
     
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