Stringing the Head Speed MP - shared holes question

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  1. Power Player

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    I got this racquet and was 90% complete stringing it and thinking - this is the second easiest racquet to string for me (first is PK 7g). Just really easy stuff.

    And then I get to the last 2 crosses where I need to push through the shared grommet to the outside of the frame. I tried for a while the different techniques I use with blocked holes..recut the tip..thin it out with the starting clamp..push through with needle nose. Not working.

    Suddenly the stars aligned and the string went right through with no friction at all. It was crazy.

    So I am thinking you have to go in at the right angle or something. I am not sure what I did correctly, but those last 2 crosses held me up for 10 mins. Besides that, this stick is rather simple for me to string up rather fast.

    Any tips for the final crosses on this stick? (it's the graphene version).
     
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  2. esgee48

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    I normally just use a sharp pointy tip. Push in with a needle nose. If it does not work, I turn the string tip 180 degrees and try again. That normally does it. I think that the tip of the string has to just initially get past the string in the grommet. Once pass, it normally continues on thru the grommet. 2 cents.
     
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    Ok that makes sense. When you say that you turn the string tip 180 I think thats why I did.

    So hard to tell though. Is it wise to widen with an awl or are the little grommet dividers not going to like that?
     
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  4. Irvin

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    Get your eye down to grommet level and look through the hole. Chances are the first string that went through is above or below center. Put the new string in the hole so that the pointed tip of the string is angled toward the side of the grommet (top or bottom) that is clear.
     
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    Irvin's approach would work, but I'm lazy and just prefer to flip the string tip.

    I would enlarge the shared hole without the presence of a string in the hole. It's too easy to nick or otherwise damage the string with an awl. A little planning goes a long way. :)

    Just realized you said 'grommet divider.' I don't have problems with holes that have a grommet divider built into the hole. Just use the side that does not have a string in it. :twisted:
     
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    So with the shared holes, the Head racquets have a shared grommet with two chambers inside the grommet for the two strings.

    Is that what is meant by grommet divider built into the hole?
     
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    Yes. Prince uses grommet dividers in their shared holes. Head, sometimes Yes, sometimes No.
     
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    So they are creating two unshared grommet chambers in a shared hole. Seems cleverer than what I thought given that it seems a little crude otherwise.
     
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    Yep. I restrung tonight and it was not that bad. Not sure what the issue was the first time, but it seems pretty easy now.

    i did run an awl through the grommets so maybe that did it. Anyway, it was fine. The only issue which has been brought up is that your cross can twist on the outside of the frame around your main. You have to pay attention to the shared holes there and i did something wrong on one because i have a twist this time.

    Shared holes sounded crude, especially considering that this is the premiere line from head it seems, but i will say that the result is a really even string bed. It is open and even over the face of the racquet. So i dont really mind shared holes at all. The playability of this racquet is extremely good.
     
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  10. am1899

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    The easiest technique for me has been to look at the shared hole - if the open part of the shared hole is on top, then insert the string as low as possible and push upwards. If it's the lower hole that's open, push from the top at a downward angle. As you point out, depending on your selection of holes you could easily end up with a cross-over somewhere on the frame - this is more-so the case if you string the frame in 2 pieces. Either way, it's still a fairly easy frame to string...just need to pay attention when dealing with the shared holes to avoid a cross-over.
     
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    LOL, power player, I was almost in the same predicament you were. I just got my used Graphene Speed MP tonight and went to string it. When I started the crosses, after about 1 minutes of really, really looking at it, I said to myself, "damn, this thing has shared holes!" I probably cursed a bit more than that though...

    I've always thought of frames with "shared holes" to be inferior than frames with no shared holes. though I must admit, it was a pretty string job when I was finished. Very even, good tension throughout.

    I used BHB7 @ 52 lbs, and prince premiere attack in the crosses @ 56 lbs. I will be hitting with it tomorrow with a friend, as well as the Babolat Play too.
     
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  12. Power Player

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    Yep, this stick is now easy to string. I have strung mine 4 times. Shared holes play great. Very even stringbed.
     
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    Good to hear... now for extra credit... :) Check the shared grommets and the outside of the racquet where there are multiple strings running in parallel. Make sure there are no crossovers and minimize lane changes :)

    I find that some racquets require "planning ahead" to make the string job look neat on the outside...
     
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  14. JackB1

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    What did u string it up with this time? What I do with the shared hole is take a really thick scrap piece of poly, cut a nice point and use a needle nose to push it through from the opposite end. I work it through back and forth a few times. Then as I pull it out, I push the actual racquet string against it and try to follow the same path as I pull the thick poly piece out. Sounds more complicated than it really is. Kind of like the pathfinder awl method.
     
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    Poly string is very abrasive and as you take that thick piece of poly and rub it back and forth across the tension main inside you grommet what do you think is happening to the main string and grommet?

    When string the shared holes I run in the few top cross strings before tensioning the outside to avoid blocked holes and crossovers. Keep the cross string on top of the main on one side and on the bottom on the other. Since you can fan the string as you draw it through the grommet draw it through slowly.
     
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    Poly string is very abrasive and as you take that thick piece of poly and rub it back and forth across the tension main inside you grommet what do you think is happening to the main string and grommet?

    When string the shared holes I run in the few top cross strings before tensioning the outside to avoid blocked holes and crossovers. Keep the cross string on top of the main on one side and on the bottom on the other. Since you can fan the string as you draw it through the grommet draw it through slowly.
     
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    I use a smooth poly and I just do it slowly a couple times. Havent had any breakage issues yet, but Irvin, you are the man when it comes to this stuff. I'll take your advice and prestring the effected crosses. Thanks!
     
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    Honestly, I don't even see the need to do all that. The only thing I had to grasp was that you need to go into the grommet with the proper angle. So if the string feels blocked, I just pull it out and go in at the proper angle and it slides right in.

    eelhc, my current string job passes the test. All I do is make sure the mains come out at the angle that is most against the frame for where they will go next. If that makes any sense. If I do that, there is no twisting or crossover.
     
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