Stringing Videos on Youtube by Richard Parnell (Parnell Knot, ATW)

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  1. Richard Parnell

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  2. Squidward

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    Thanks Richard!

    Always great to have someone like yourself share your knowledge with us!
     
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    Ditto - thanks Richard!
     
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    Thanks a lot, great videos!
     
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    Great videos, thanks for the info!
     
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    Hello Richard

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience through the informative videos that you have posted. I noticed that you did not tie off the top cross string until you completed all the cross strings in the ATW pattern. Is there an advantage to waiting to tie off that cross string? I realize that you re tension that cross string and remove the starting clamp, but that could be done earlier as well. I look forward to your reply.

    Geoff

     
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    You will have less drawback bleeding over to the short side 7th main from tying off the top cross after you string all the crosses. Also it frees up the short side clamp to hold the bottom cross on the ATW pattern.
     
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    Hi Richard,

    I have a couple of questions, if I may.

    Since introducing this knot, have you ever deviated? Perhaps a flirtatious affair with the pro knot?

    And do you recall why you started using the Parnell knot (or the 'me' knot, as I imagine you call it ;-))? Was it because you saw a better way of doing things? Or possibly just by accident?

    Thanks for posting.
     
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    Hi Geoff,

    Good question, I leave the clamp there until the end as I am busy with the crosses and find that if I do all the crosses first then tie off at the throat and tie off at the head then I am doing the same things at the same time. 1st do crosses, 2nd do tie offs. The risk of leaving a clamp until the end is that you could knock it and break the string it is holding with the risk of having to restart the crosses. I have never had the clamp fail on me so I use this method.

    If I were working with the Wilson team I would have to get the clamp off asap as Ron believes that in the stringing room there are people walking around and the clamp might get knocked so their method is the opposite to mine.

    It is a personal choice and neither will affect the DT of the finished product.

    Best wishes,
    Richard
     
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    Hi Dags,
    I use the Pro Knot on the PD if I am tying off in the official 10H grommet as there is not much room, this depends on the gauge of the string.
    I was trying to do another knot and this knot came out by mistake and I liked it the way it protected the anchor string, looked and how easy it was to cinch up.
    That's about it.
    Best wishes,
    Richard
    PS: I try not to "flirt" with knots ;-) , I find it a little one sided
     
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    I quite like that the knot is just a happy accident. :)

    If you're thinking of making more videos, the thing that most intrigued me in your ATW video was when you discussed being able to weave in a number of different ways to save your hands. You showed the technique for the last cross in some detail: I'd love to see a video that covers others. I was trying to pay attention to your regular weave in the video, but it was too fast to see exactly what you're doing!

    By means of example - I first learnt to push weave, and as most beginners do, I struggled a little. It was only when someone here (and I think it was YULitle) made comment in a video not to hold the end of the string too close to the tips of your fingers that I really started to improve. Little nuggets that aren't immediately obvious visually can be useful beyond belief.
     
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    Hello Richard

    I appreciate your quick reply. It's always interesting to me how stringers keep specific routines (in a good way). I feel that this helps to produce a consistent string job each time. I switched to the Parnell knot a few years ago from two half hitches and have been very pleased with the results. I find less tension loss (last main and/or cross) along with less damage to the tie off grommet.

     
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  13. Richard Parnell

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    I really believe that consistency is the key.
     
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    Excellent videos!
     
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    Thank you Richard for the videos. I confess learning the Parnell knot a few years ago made the worst part of stringing easy!

    I will incorporate the ATW pattern soon. I previously thought it was more of a gimmick, but I'm thinking differently now.

    Cheers!
     
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    Richard nice videos but I would like to make a important point. When tying your knot you mention at 0:20 sec., "come up through the little loop." When you tie the first half hitch you form that little loop, and when you make the second pass under the anchor string you make a larger loop (the one you pull first to tighten the first half hitch.) When passing the tag end through the smaller loop it is important to also pass through the larger loop otherwise you have a VS Starting knot.

    EDIT: Also someone mentioned you used poly to make those videos. That solid yellow string does not look like poly, what is it? I would have guessed N.VY but have not seen it in yellow.
     
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    Very nice of Richard to post the videos and show his thoughts on stringing technique.

    However, it is very interesting how different the methods are in the many videos and articles I have watched or read by the experts. The experts seemed to have many differences in method and theory. For instance, Richard increases the tension by 4 kilo or around 8 lbs but the USRSA says they believe this is not a good practice because the strings that get tied off are usually shorter strings anyway. That's just one of many method or theory practices that I could use as an example. Another Richard mentions himself when discussing theory on leaving a clamp on or off.

    Hopefully Richard will continue to post his methods and theories on stringing because it is great to see his ideas on stringing.
     
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    If I remember right, it's Gamma syn gut @ 55#
     
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  19. Richard Parnell

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    Hi Irvin,
    If you watch when I do the knot I leave a little loop and then go back over the anchor string and through the small loop. This keeps it as one of mine and not another.

    The string I am using on the Yonex is Yonex Poly Tour Pro 1.30 in the mains and Poly Tour Pro 1.25 on the crosses.

    All the best,
    Richard
     
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    The one used for the ATW may have been Gamma SG w/WearGuard or Prince SG w/Duralex. I was referrying to the one in the Parnell knot video that is solid yellow.
     
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  21. Richard Parnell

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    I have done two knot videos, one in Spanish and one in English.
    Can't remember which racquet was in each vid.
    Yonex with Yonex PTP 130/PTP 125 solid yellow
    Prince with Dunlop Synthetic Gut 1.30 yellow

    The ATW was done in a Aero Pro Drive + with Dunlop synthetic Gut 1.30.
    All the best,
    Richard
     
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    So it was a poly string - Yonex PTP
     
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    Richard - thanks for the videos again. I had gone back to using a double hitch when stringing. After watching your video, I tried a Parnell again. I did notice that it is much easier to cinch, doesn't lose tension and looks good to boot.

    Have a great one.
     
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    I've been lurking in a few different string tip threads...gathering info and hope to become a decent stringer...an offspring off the teachers here.

    cheers to all.
     
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    Thanks & You're most welcome :)
     
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    Thank you for these videos.

    I did that knot without knowing the name :) I learned from another website.

    I think it's the most handy, robust, and just beautiful knot...
     
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  27. Richard Parnell

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    I agree :)
     
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    Vamoos Richard! Nice seeing you again (?) here, thanks for links!
     
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    ATW question

    Hello Richard

    I am curious what ATW pattern you use for 16x19 patterns that skip 7T9T and 7H9H on the mains.

    Thanks in advance

    Geoff
     
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  30. Richard Parnell

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    Hi Geoff,
    I use different ATW depending on the pattern. I would use an ATW Parnell which I will do a video of when I get a minute but it will be featured in the next ERSA magazine with instructions of how to do it.
    All the best,
    Richard
     
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    Hi Richard

    I look forward to seeing the video. I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge and expertise. Is the ERSA magazine accessible on line?

    Thanks

    Geoff
     
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    this stuff is why the internet is so great

    thank you
     
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    Thank You :)
     
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    Thanks for coming on the site and sharing your expertise with us! I'm going to give the Parnell knot a try tomorrow!
     
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    many thanks
     
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    I really thought they'd give you guys a little more space. It's glamorous at the top, eh?

    What's the floor like? I was expecting to see more padded mats or something given how long you're on your feet.
     
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    Thanks for the videos and thanks for the knot. I learned it from YULitle on this site (and his videos) and other than the bulky starting knot is the only knot I have ever done in the little over a year I have been stringing my own racquets (probably about one a month and only 2 piece easy-mode stringing).

    The behind the scenes at the stringing room videos were neat to see. Thanks for those as well. Quite cramped but you guys seem to make the most of it.
     
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    I do a lot of experimenting with unconventional stringbeds, but I'm a novice when it comes to stringing technique and knot technique.

    I once tried following the Parnell knot video popsted by YULITTLE, but I found the tension loss from tie-off on the last string unsatisfactory.

    I know the expert stringers recommend not pulling tension on knots against the frame with a drop weight, but that seems to be the only way I can get tight outer mains. I do double hitch, and pull tension against the frame on both hitches (first against top of frame, and second against bottom of frame).

    I only string for myself, so I don't really care about scratching the paint as much as I care about getting a stringbed that doesn't soften over time. Loose outer mains = softening bed over time as the tension equilibrates (I find this effect to be especially bad on the stringjobs I get from TW when I purchase racquets strung).

    Is it really possible to get outer mains as tight as my method using the manual pull method in the videos on this thread?
     
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    behind the scenes work isn't always great. i have shot photos for the Amgen Tour Of California and luckily for the team i was shooting with where exclusive photogs for AEG. we had access to the VIP areas because we not only shot cycling photos but all of the items with sponsors logos on it and dignitaries. that gave us access to the food tents which was most important for breakfast, allowing us to eat on the job. lunch time was out on the road shooting the cyclists and fans on the road. dinner came when it did and sometimes it didn't.

    after shooting the finish and the awards it was off to the media room for interviews. the space there wasn't always favorable. after that it was over to another cramped room where photogs, writers and reporters worked at getting photos and articles out to websites. The team i was with also had to compile and process all photos for AEG, sometimes going into the early hours of the morning.

    the team mechanics and soigneurs didn't have it easy and the mobile crew that broke down and set up at each start/finish city even tougher.
     
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  41. Irvin

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    Richard your video for the universal ATW does not work.
     
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    It works fine. The link you pasted in another thread is missing a character on the end.
     
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    Yes I must have left off a character when I copied it.
     
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