Stringway flying clamp

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by archman, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. archman

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  2. ryangoring

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    yes sirrr......
     
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  3. ryangoring

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    Also contemplate getting the triple ones .
     
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  4. Irvin

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    LOL $49 for one clamp? I guess that is $98 for a set of two and if you get the tripple that is another $69. $167 for clamps? You be the judge.

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  5. archman

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    What is the benefit of the triple?
     
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  6. technoob10

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    A triple is more secure than a double because it holds onto more strings, so the pull back is not as significant. When you stop tensioning a string after its clamped, you would notice the clamp moving back a little, so a triple lessens this effect.
     
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    For those with fixed clamps, this thread is useless and they will be biased towards fixed clamps. For those with floating clamps and no wish to spend the $$$ to upgrade to a fixed clamp machine the SW clamps are the best upgrade. I have the triple clamp and it out performs my normal clamps. It requires very little pressure to hold the string and is really easy to adjust. It's wide enough to cover the wide spacing on the first and last few crosses of most racquets.

    They are very solid and feel really good.

    @Irvin... you only need 1 double and 1 triple. $49 + $69 = $118. Not as bad as you make it sound. The triple when tightened will act as a narrow or wide double if you only use 2 of the 3 slots.
     
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  8. Irvin

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    For those looking for the first stringer. Do you want to buy a stringer with low quality clamps or start off looking for a $118 upgrade when you find you low cost stringer will not do the job?

    If I were shopping for a stringing machine the first thing I would look for is the clamping system. Why look at the lowest cost and then look for upgrades? Seems like the biggest complaint about a stringer is the clamps but everyone looks first at cost. You are half right, when tightened the triple MAY act as a narrow or wide double. But then again it MAY not.

    Irvin
     
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  9. topanlego

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    I'm sorry, you are wrong there about the clamp. If you haven't used the clamps before, your opinion on the clamps do not count. The best combo for SW clamps is a double + triple clamp. I own the triple and it works great. Working on ordering a double but my original clamps work fine for that. The SW triple clamp work much better than the stock clamps my machine came with. Especially on the crosses that are wide apart. I'm not to say my original clamps are not good, just the SW ones are better.

    Also, the OP is not shopping for a first stringing machine and already owns an X-2. From all the owners of X-2s on this board, most have no problems with the machine and have no need to upgrade to a more expensive machine that has fixed clamps. They are looking for the best alternative to purchasing a new machine. The SW clamps are the answer to this.

    But then again, you sound like you are in the fixed clamps are better camp.
     
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  10. Bud

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    Reviving this thread. Going to buy a pair of SW floaters.

    Do others still recommend a triple and a double or simply two doubles?
     
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  11. 1HandedBackhand

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    If I were you I would buy one of each because you can use the triple like a triple or a double clamp. I have two doubles and wish I would of got a triple one because crosses are so wide a top and bottom of the racquet. I have used both gamma and klippermate clamps and these are soooo much better.....they never slip, are easy to adjust, and never damage string.
     
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  12. tinyman

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    Definitely a double + triple - that's what I use, and the spacing that the triple can get at the bottom crosses is very useful.
     
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    I had initially 2 SW double clamps. Then later I bought triple which is good in last mains and especially when clamping crosses that are wide apart. I had never ever any slipping or any problems with SW flying clamps. Twisting / drawback is an issue only on the tie off mains strings. Is it a big problem is up to the stringer. Looser outer mains don't contribute much to the final DT of the string bed.

    I have now updated my ML100 with double action fixed clamps. My experience is that I end up with similar DT's with both clamping systems. You just need to know what you are doing with each system. Tie offs are tighter with fixed ones.

    But also note that with fixed clamps you have more factors to to potentially screw your string job. Single clamp can slip easier than (SW) double. You have to pay attention that base clamp is adjusted correctly. You also have to pay attention how you position fixed clamp while clamping so that tightening the base won't disposition the clamp. So what I am saying is that SW flying clamps provide very easy and effortless way to produce constant and tight string bed.

    I am using the fixed ones now and when all things mentioned above are taken care of the results are very constant and good. Also when starting mains and doing ATWs you need to compromise less with fixed clamps. And perhaps the biggest thing for me is that stringing crosses is more straight forward with fixed clamps. Now I am using my flying clamps as starting clamps.
     
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  15. Bud

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    Ordered two doubles. If I like I may also order a triple.
     
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    Two doubles $49 each plus a triple $59 comes to $157,

    Two triples is only $118 or $39 less. Not counting shipping.
     
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  17. camohommed

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    I have both the triple, double and starting clamps on the way. I'll let you know what I think when I get them.
     
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  19. Bud

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    Nice pic. But, I don't see the benefit of using a triple clamp for crosses. It seems it would be more hassle than using a double - with no additional benefit.

    A triple seems like it would be more beneficial for the mains to prevent drawback.

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    Anyhow, I've survived with two plastic X-2 double clamps for the past 7 years. I'm sure two double Stringway clamps will be fine :)
     
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  20. A Defenseless Creature

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    The triple prevents twisting on the mains. On the crosses it is especially useful on frames where the lower crosses have wide spacing. In these instances you can use the outer two channels to hold two strings and this is accomplished nicely without pinching.
     
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  21. Irvin

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    May also come in handy for spin frames.
     
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  22. Bud

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    Clamps received. They are very nice! Solid, heavy and easy to adjust.

    Can't wait to see how they feel in use.
     
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  23. Chotobaka

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    Definitely want to hear how they are in action and how you are using them. TIA.
     
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  24. loubapache

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    I have a triple and a double from last November. These are very nice clamps. I normally use the silent partner floating clamps and they are also nice but the Stringways are a notch higher in almost every aspect.

    I use the triple for the last mains and also the crosses of some rackets. For example, the Fischer 105 have wide gaps for the crosses and the silent partner floating clamps have narrow jaws. The Stringway triple works very nicely.
     
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  25. onehandbh

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    I've been using a triple and double to string on my ML90.

    There are really easy to use and grip really well. It was a little surprising
    to me b/c it doesn't have a rough, sandy texture. Somehow they are able
    to grip the strings without crushing them. They are very precise,
    easy to adjust and I've never had a string slippage problem.
     
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  26. rusty0412

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    Questions after first stringing job ever - using Gamma drop weight

    Hi,

    Last night I strung my racquet for the first time myself. I bought a Gamma progression II 602 a couple days ago and had a couple questions/concerns about my stringing job.

    1. The Gamma flying clamps initially damaged the strings. I could see the bite marks on the string after unclamping. I solve that after weaving two or three mains and readjusting the pressure. Is there a better way of doing this than trial and error? Are there clamps that avoid this problem?

    2. The coarse part of the ratchet system also damaged the string. I felt that the parse that was grabbed by the inner diamonds would be rough/grainy afterwards. Is this common? Can this be avoided? How can it be avoided?

    3. How much tension is lost in tying the knot? There is no tension applied between the last clamp and tying the knot. Maybe I did this incorrectly.

    4. Any tips in weaving the last few crosses? Those were painful.

    And as a comment just the experienced guys to laugh at. I use a Blade 98 18x20 and all videos I saw (including the TW one) say to cut the string set in half. Well, I did, and ran out of string before finishing the mains. I was using RPM Blast and had to cut it out. Sooo, yeah, I wasted an RPM Blast set. :( Also, uncoiling the RPM Blast became a nightmare because it got all tangled. Maybe its for the better because even after I untangled the set it had all kinds of weird bends and turns. It didn't form a nice loop in the floor, nor did it sit straight in the racquet before I pulled tension. I had to resort to one of the demo strings included with the stringing machine since I had to play today. I strung it with Gamma Poly Z 16g. I found a video on how to uncoil strings properly, and a Klipper spec for how much string to cut for mains and crosses for my machine. Try#2 was much better but not perfect because of the issues above.
     
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  27. rusty0412

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    Wow, sorry, this was meant to be a new thread. Please ignore.

     
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