***Stringway Machine Users Club***

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by 10SDad, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. 10SDad

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    PURPOSE:
    The intent of this club is to be a central resource for current and past owners of Stringway machines, in order to share personal experiences with use of the machine(s), tools, techniques, tips, and to collaborate on information and questions. Hopefully it can also be a resource for those exploring Stringway as an option.

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    ADDITIONAL GUIDELINES:
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    3. This forum is for information sharing and not to promote direct or indirect sales of Stringway products.

    MY EXPERIENCE
    I recently acquired a very nice, used Stringway ML100 with T98 fixed clamps (sold as a Laserfibre MS200tt). After nine years of stringing on an entry-level drop-weight machine, I spent the last year researching upgrade options that would allow me to offer stringing services to my local tennis community. My requirements included simplicity, reliability, predictability, consistency, portability, and continuous pull. Through information and feedback in other TW forums as well as directly from machine owners, I decided to pursue a Stringway drop-weight. A testament to the following of the Stringway products, it took a good amount of time and patience to find a used machine. After a long road trip to pick it up, I downloaded the manual and used it to completely disassemble the machine, clean it, lubricate it, overhaul the clamps, and silicone the frame. I am the third owner, but the machine is still in great shape. I have only used it a few times thus far, but am very happy with it. I quickly decided to invest in two triple and one double flying clamps, as well as the cross stringing tools and am impressed with both. I string a lot of gut, and have found the clamps and tensioner to be very gentle.

    If you own (or have owned) a Stringway, please feel free to join this club and share your story with these wonderful machines. Posting pics is welcome as well.

    Thanks in advance to each of you for your contribution. As this club develops I hope you will find this sharing of experience and information beneficial.

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  2. BlxTennis

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    I am joining. Used to string with a lock-out machine. Now loving my LF constant pull machine.
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  3. scotus

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    It has been a long time since I used an ML100, which I returned for ML200 (or whichever number corresponds to the foot-pedal model).

    Off-topic, but would you please tell me the minimum tension that the ML100 can pull? Can it go as low as 10 lbs?

    Thanks.
     
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  4. Slitch

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    20lbs is the lowest on my ml100 with the standard weight. You can go lower with the badminton weight.

    Ps. Sign me up as well. ML100 user with two double flying clamps.
     
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  5. Peppershaker

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    Excellent Idea!

    Purchased my Stringway ML100 w/T98 clamps in Jan of 2011, have strung just over 400 racquets since with this machine. Enjoy the machine as much now as the first day that I assembled it.

    Made one slight modification, placed sections of silicone tubing over each of the four racquet posts, doing so allows me to position the clamps at just about any angle while locking down the racquet firmly w/o any marring of the frame, and little to no possible movement.

    Would like to show a picture, just not sure how to upload a photo.
     
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  6. BlxTennis

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    You can upload your photo to http://tinypic.com/ and when you get the link of the photo, click on "insert image" when you posting and past your link there.
     
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  7. 10SDad

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    Can you share any resources for the silicone tubing? I've checked my local home improvement stores and can only find vinyl. That is too slick.
     
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  8. scotus

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    Thank you. On my foot-pedal model, 25 lbs is the minimum.
     
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  9. Peppershaker

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    Trying this quick.

    http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/Jpepley/media/RacqtClamp.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

    Later will get the dimensions on the two sizes tha I used. We had this laying around work which has since closed, may have a spool or two from when we cleaned out our workroom will check. Really does work well, could use a thinner wall but I've had no issues with any racquets and that includes a Weed that I just strung up for someone.
     
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  10. v-verb

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    very nice - love to see more picks of these machines.

    I'm stringing on a Klipper and one day may want to move up
     
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  11. BlxTennis

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    Nice. I need to make that mod too if I can find the Silicon tube.

    Isn't that supposed to be the head mount?
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  12. Slitch

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    I think the minimum weight with the badminton weight is 12lbs according to the ruler that came with my stringer.
     
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  13. cluckcluck

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    Love my ML90 with two triple clamps and a double clamp. Don't think I would make the switch to the fixed option. [​IMG]
     
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  14. 10SDad

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  15. colowhisper

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    Love my Laserfibre.
     
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  16. onehandbh

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    ML90 with a double and a triple flying clamp.

    Love it. Easy to use, accurate and portable.


    I also removed a stopper inside the base so that it can rotate more to
    make it easier to string.
     
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  17. Peppershaker

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    Silicone Tubing - Sorry haven't had time to get to this issue, will probably do so during the week.

    ? Regarding Mount shown on my link. Although I do have silicone tubing at both the Head & Throat Supports, what is shown in the photo is the throat support and clamps.

    As for the racquet retainer, I do probably use the Babalot model more often than the regular adaptors. However, I've purchased the materials to try and mold my own custom versions. I like the Babolat model, but it seems that it could or should come into more contact with the racquet. The two independent adaptors also do not seem to have enough surface contact with the frame. My thought is that I'd like to try and create a mold to pour my own. Was looking at this as a winter project, but just never got to it.

    Do any of you have the Concorde system, or by chance purchased the upgrade? Was considering pursuing this, but not sure it really adds that much value, since I haven't really found any issue w/o it.
     
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  18. _skunk_

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    ML100 Fanstastic machine.
     
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  19. pstar

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    My ML100

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    Had this beauty for over three years, and over 200 racquets strung up til now.
     
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  20. v-verb

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    Wow I would love this machine! Where can you get these and how much?
     
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  21. diredesire

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    No competitor discussion, please.

    Add me to the club, I retired my Laserfibre MS200TT a few years back. It now lies with my good buddy - brownbearfalling (actually his brother, but they use the same login).
     
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  22. Power Player

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    I too own an MS200tt, and have had one for over a year now. Absolutely awesome.

    Had small repairs done to it by Mark at Alpha, and the thing is dialed in perfectly again.

    Firmly believe it is the stringer to own for a home stringer, and it can be used by a pro as well.
     
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  23. ike81

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    What can we say about machines and support excelent.

    The best drop weight machine on the market i have 2 of them

    -Clamps are not damaging the strings
    -rock solid gripper
    -10 years warranty
    -killer prices comparing the high end machine

    Very reliable and fast stringing of course you can choose to buy other machine from other manufactures but in terms of maintance nothing can go bad with Stringway.

    I know this is auto drop weight and does not mean that every string can be finalise in one pull but that depends from elongation and other properties.
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  24. ike81

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  25. TennisCJC

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    Actually, the drop weight sets the tension correctly at any angle. So, you only pull each string one time unless the tension arm bottoms out which very rarely - maybe happens once or twice a year when you don't pull the string into the tension head properly. I cannot remember the last time I had to repull a string.

    Joining - own a LaSerFibre like ML90 Stringway model. Had it a little over 6 years and consider it a great machine for home or small commercial use. I really like the constant pull drop weight with correct tension at any angle feature.
     
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  26. diredesire

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    I think his implication was for bottoming out, I've had the tension arm bottom out many, many times. Maybe you aren't using the stretchiest strings, though.
     
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  27. hyperion99

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    DD,
    Did the tension arm bottom out on your Laserfibre MS200/Stringway a lot when you used Natural Gut?

    Also why did you switch to a Gamma 5800 ELS 2pt (just curious)?

    Thanks
     
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  28. diredesire

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    I didn't string a ton of gut, so I don't recall. The worst offenders for me were extremely stretchy polys (Topspin's Poly Polar -- no longer in production AFAIK), and Soft, soft strings (Ashaway Liberty comes to mind). Maybe Polystar Energy? I'm sure there are a few other unusual strings that did the same, but it's been a long time.

    I switched because I got a good deal, and my shoulder "clicks" a little bit when I pump a weight, so it would irritate my shoulder across long stringing sessions. There are systematic issues with the Gamma, too, it's not a perfect machine by any stretch of the imagination.
     
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  29. hyperion99

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    Ok,thanks for the response(sorry to hear about the shoulder).
    Do you have a Wise attached to your Gamma(I think it's easier on the shoulder than a crank)?
     
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  30. diredesire

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    The 5800 is one of their higher end electric machines, but cranks don't bother me anyways, very easy on the shoulder :)
     
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  31. hyperion99

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    Oops(brain fart).:shock:
    I mixed it up for the 5003.
    Nice machine BTW!
     
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  32. hyperion99

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    10sDad do you like the Stringway Cross Stringing Tool better than just weaving the crosses without it?
     
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  33. BlxTennis

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    I had that happened to me when I just got the machine. I thought there was something wrong but turns out I was stringing a stretchy Multi. I think was Dunlop Hexy Fibre.

    I am not 10sDad but I use mine all the way to the bottom of the cross where tension is minimum and pull like 6-7 crosses then pull them. When tension at the bottom starts to build up, I take the cross-string tool out an weave the rest.
     
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  34. hyperion99

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    Thanks for the feedback Blxtennis.
    I'm considering to purchase this tool but wanted to know if there's more of a chance of a mis-weave when using this tool?
     
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  35. BlxTennis

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    Well, if you pay atttention, there shouldn't be mis-weaving. I did mis-weave one time when I wasn't even thinking and just going through the motion. If you look at where it start and move the tool one over to the correct starting string, then shouldn't be any mis-weaving.
     
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  36. 10SDad

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    Keeping in mind that I am not the fastest weaver, the cross stringing tool does save me some time. It takes a few moments on the front-end to put the tool in place, but for me that time is made up in its use. I also find I have to remove it for the last few crosses. I have not had any misweaves. Just a matter of moving it each time, which becomes part of the rhythm of the process. I do like how it is saving my fingers, and also making the weaving closer to frictionless. I can also pull the slack through the mains much faster. Hope that helps.
     
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  37. hyperion99

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    Thanks for your feedback on the cross-stringing tool Blxtennis.
    I'm always alert when stringing.:)

    I'm not the fastest weaver either(but I rather take more time to get a better stringjob).
    Thanks for your feedback on the cross-stringing tool 10sdad.
     
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  38. Bugs

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    Heres my Stringway. I made the adaptor for the Wise tension head. When I travel, I put the oringinal tensioner back on incase there is no power.
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  39. BlxTennis

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    You put a wise tension head on a stringway? You should ask Fred to send you graphs of tension comparing electronic pull vs constant drop weight. I remember seeing the graph showing little ripples due to constant feedback from the electronic mechanism where as the drop weight constant pull is just pretty much flat. In the end probably not that big of deal but it shows that the constant drop weight is just a little better in terms of less stress on the string.
     
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  40. Slitch

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    Why did you put a wise on a stringway?
     
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  41. Power Player

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    I don't get the wise on the Stringway either. Seems rather blasphemous.
     
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  42. struggle

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    ????????

    but then again, some folks here have starting clamp collections.

    whatever blows your dress up!
     
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  43. Lakers4Life

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    Being an Engineer I like the design of your mounting adaptor. Was that machined out of block of aluminum?
     
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  44. Bugs

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    I am an engineer also, with a workshop…. Yes machined from a block of aluminium.
    Adapting the Wise has just made stringing for “ME” just that bit quicker. Also for my daughter (aged 11) struggled with lifting the weight constantly. So using the Wise she is able to string racquets on her own.
    That’s my Wise fitment justification to all you hard core Stringway nerds……
     
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  45. 10SDad

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    "Nerds" is so...narrow and academic. I prefer "Aficionados". :)
     
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  46. Joonas

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    Nice club! Please sign me up as well.

    Using ML100 and two double action clamps. Very happy user :)
     
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  47. Overheadsmash

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    ML120 Here with single action clamps. Love it great machine.

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  48. ike81

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    Hi Guys

    Considering Rules info since we must follow rules and be fair with other machine producers on the market

    What can say is that this is one of fastest machine with drop weight and poly killer what i meant if you strung a lot of poly you will never get back to electronic.100 percent guarantee

    My personal opinion with Wise since i strung for a lot of tournaments is not reliable you never know when Wise will blow out have some limitations and slow as hell.

    On the other hand lever arm and weight are much faster then electronics your hand is only limit.

    So if we take SW machine on tournaments and we know that poly is out main concern then i personally will choose stringway one.

    Same Dt tight stifness and job perfectly done.

    Well concerning strechy string multifilament one made from fiber they can be boring to string and even other dropweight machine you faced issued of time and time repulling again so its time consuming but at the end your job will be done.

    You cannot blame gravity for that its material it is.

    Gut and nylon are almost perfect to string.

    So you can finished racquet in 20 minutes which makes this machine or similar manufacture high end machine.

    Cheers
     
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  49. ike81

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    Thanks Bugs for your modifications and putting wise on Sw.

    But i honestly think that Wise is toy rather then reliable tensioner.

    Just when i think of the sound that it makes and motor is moving via rod instead of chain is just amateurism.
     
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  50. barry

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    Once you go electronic, it is hard to go back to a drop weight or crank. My Wise has been in use for 5 years strung a bunch of rackets, and it has performed without failure.

    If you do any volume of stringing, the Wise makes it so much easier and faster to set tensions, and you eliminate the constant raising and lower of the bar. It is just as accurate as the drop weight and saved me about 10 minutes per racket. Not sure I could go back.

    Very nice implementation of the Stringway / Wise.
     
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