surface winning streaks

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  1. Jack Romeo

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    we can finally stop hearing about nadal's 81 match clay court streak or even evert's 125 match clay court streak now that the clay season is over. now i'm sure we'll be talking about federer's ongoing grass court streak.

    but i have a question: who has the longest grass court streak on either men's or women's tour?

    i know that navratilova won 6 straight wimbledons but i think she did lose a few other grass court matches in that span. remember that the australian open was also played on grass before 1988 and looking at the record books, martina never won consecutive australian opens.
     
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  2. Rhino

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    Interesting question, I know that Martina Navratilova held an overall 41-match win streak at Wimbledon but I don't know what she did on grass between tourneys...
     
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  3. Moose Malloy

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    ^it was a 48 match win streak
     
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    Are you sure...? Check this page, it says the Navratilator had a 41 match streak...
    http://www.monicaseles.de/bio_english.htm

    it could be wrong though.
     
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  5. Moose Malloy

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    well I know she won Wimbledon 6 straight times('82-'87) & was in the final the 7th year('88). I'm not good with math, but isn't that 48 matches?
     
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    By the way if you check her Eastbourne results during the same period - also grass - she had a 35 match winning streak there too, but she lost in the final in 1987, so it was only 5 in a row there.
     
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    here are martina's longest grasscourt win streaks:

    46 matches-won 7 grass events from June '83(Eastbourne) to her loss in December '84(Australian Open SF to Sukova, Martina was going for the calendar slam also that event) only lost 3 sets during those 46 matches. She started another grasscourt streak the next year.

    47 matches-won 7 grass events from June '85(Eastbourne) to her loss in January '87(Australian Open Final to Mandlikova)

    So Martina at one point won 93 of her last 94 matches on grass.

    Guess this is yet more evidence that the grass in Australia played differently from that at Wimbledon. So no one can really guess how players would do if 3of the 4 majors were still on grass.

    http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/activity.asp?player=20000724
     
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  10. krosero

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    And just because I like to bookend streaks: the last time she lost on grass before starting the first streak was the 1982 Australian Open final (lost to Chris Evert Lloyd).
     
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  11. krosero

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    I have also read that Martina won 59 straight matches on British grass ending with her loss to Sukova in 1987.

    I'll check that, though, in a few days when I get access again to the New York Times archive.
     
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  12. Jack Romeo

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    seems like maybe the grass in australia was slower than at wimbledon. is this correct? navratilova's record in australia was nowhere near her record at wimbledon or the us open; in fact, it is more similar to her record at the french open. she had losses to evert, sukova and mandlikova during a time when she was supposed to be unbeatable. also, look at mats wilander's record in australia - he won it twice on grass, once on rebound ace. that's the same number of french open trophies he has. but mats never won wimbledon.
     
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  13. krosero

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    I got Martina's record on British grass wrong; it was even higher.

    This is from the New York Times, dated June 21, 1987.

     
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