T Fight 315?

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  1. Fed Kennedy

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    There's just something about these low stiffness low vibration frequency frames that makes you want to play more tennis...they feel great to hit with. Might have to pull the trigger on this, a C10 or a dunlop 200 tour.

    Gads, this whole line of thinking reminds me of the rdis 200, which was just such a plush frame but lacked that killer punch...any shared DNA or you like the tec better...

    also would you say the tec is light years better than a radical mp? trying to find what is unique about this frame beyond the flex.
     
  2. JGads

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    Good questions and definitely a good point about frames like these making you want to play. PP and I have discussed this.. you want to stay out there long after you're spent because you want to nail just one more forehand because it just feels so nice.

    I definitely like the Tec more than the 200. The 200 was SO pillow-like I lost the ball a little bit in the stringbed, and I also think I hit with too much spin with it, too floaty. This one (even the 16m) is more direct, more punchy - AS LONG as you step into the ball, hit out in front. When you do that, these frames do more than the 200, from what I recall.

    Tec vs Rad MP, hmm.. I'm so used to the extended pro stock rads vs standards, so my compass is off here. Standard Radical won't feel as full on impact as the Tec. The Tec will be lower powered, though. For me the Tec is more like a Prestige than a Rad. But you know how every year we 'holics long for a Prestige MP that just kind of FEELS more like a Prestige Mid on impact, but has the added forgiveness of the larger head? That's a bit like what this Tec feels like.
     
  3. mykoh

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    oh. my. goodness. i think i just jizzed my pants.
    now i can't wait for my 18M 315 to get here.
     
  4. Power Player

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    What is unique is the insane consistency and ability to rip big shots as well without getting exhausted. I have played 3 hours for the past 2 days and the stick never vibrated once and feels like the hottest girl you have been with.

    Basically this racquet has awesome control, but you can hit big as well. It has all these little levels in between so you can start a match and hit a rally ball that is maybe 60% power..and then if that is not heavy enough, you can dial it up to 70% without that feeling of "oh god, he is killing my rally ball, time to go all out every time".

    The RDIS is heavier than my setup, and that super open pattern made it to where I had to use full poly. Also, it was a looper..I finally realized I hate looping sticks. One of my faster friends was chasing down all my shots, and when I went 18x20, he was unable to do that. The feel of the RDIS was killer, but the Tec is softer and has that crisp top and smaller sweetspot, so you know exactly what you are doing to the ball. It is a massive confidence booster in that regard.

    Its tough to keep this stick under 12 ounces for me, but I dont go much over. I am with gads on this. We differ in a few ways. I prefer a balance closer to 5 pts HL, and he likes a little more weight in the handle. So all I had to do was put 6 grams at 3 and 9 and I'm done.

    It is plenty of weight on the shot, but the swing weight is not that high, so I still get a lot of racquet head speed, even when it's hour 3 and I'm tired.

    I'd suggest figuring out a balance you prefer. If you want more head light, then swap out that leather grip and get a few Head buttcaps so you can tweak the tailweight.

    If you are cool with 5-6 points HL, then even 4 grams at 3 and 9 will probably do it for you. I can get away with 6, and all 3 of mine sticks are under 345 still.

    Also, if you are using poly, Id string it under 50#s. I use full forten and it's at 56#.
     
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    Yeh, was thinking about lead in the throat as well, so look forward to hearing how it goes with your setup.

    Good info; thanks. I added another gram at 3 and 9 (so 4 total now) and it weighed in at 11.9 oz/337g; sweet. And I must've received a stick a little more HL than specs as it's still around 7pts HL, which is great for me; look forward to trying out this setup. I've got a gut/poly hybrid in there now (56/52), but am interested in the syn gut or a syn gut hybrid when it's time to restring.
     
  6. Power Player

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    If you go full syn - try forten sweet. It's my favorite of the 3 full jobs I have (ogsm and prince as well..all 16 gauge).

    I'd be interested in seeing how the feel and spin compares to gut poly for you. gut/poly is a ton of spin..but the forten has really surprised me in that aspect.
     
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    I was playing with a C10 that belongs to a buddy of mine just the other day, alternating with the Tech 315 (18m). Loved the easy power of the C10, the plowthrough, and decent control. And very nice, plush hit. Wasn't bothered as much by the "wobbliness" of it as Gads; but definitely felt the weight after a while, despite it being so HL. To me, the Tech felt soft, but stable and crisp at the same time. And I feel like I can go for hours with it. Is the Tech "light years" better than the C10? Wouldn't go that far; but, in my opinion, it can do just about anything (other than not quite as much power, but I'm ok with that) that the C10 can do, but with a more manageable weight.
     
  8. skeeter

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    Quoted for truth there, Gads. You and I both went through that Prestige MP dance a while back and just couldn't quite dial it in, even though we SO wanted, hoped, cajoled, tinkered, cussed, and downright prayed for it to work. I feel like the Tech does exactly what I was looking for in the MP.
     
  9. JGads

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    A painful, frustrating dance it was.

    So close. The IG MP still haunts me.
     
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    Good information here!! Tks, I was looking for a replacement of my C10 pro with less weithg so I could change the balance a little.
    How would you compare the C10 pro with the Tecn in terms of arm friendly and or Flex?
     
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    Would say the Tech is just as arm friendly as the C10 Pro, but maybe not quite as flexible; but still has some nice flex to it. A great platform racquet to work with and, from what I hear others say, not string sensitive.
     
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    Could anybody write differences between Bio200 and 18m? I'm in general Dunlop user but this frames is more than interesting...

    thanks!
     
  13. gavna

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    **** I bought the "Wilson" ones....fit perfect.

    Funny story' I emailed them asking about this issue and wanting to purchase the TK82s pallets and put them on the TEC frames....after two days and no answer I called Roman and explained that the 315ltd can take them and ordered a few sets - a week later I get an email from Angelika letting me know that the Head pallets will not fit on the TEC sticks.......of course they do perfect.

    1 set of Pallets will run $29 and add another $20+ for the shipping -
     
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    Here are the **** pallets......just some trimming on the length (about an inch long) and they fit PERFECT V
     
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    The details on the stick with layup...etc after removing the orig pallets.

    I have 3 sets of Head Speed TK82s pallets from Head I'm going to mount tomorrow.
     
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    Oh killer...a layup code..I wonder what it all means.
     
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    ?????? I gotta guess we have someone around here who knows what if anything it means.

    Maybe someone who reads Chinese or has a relative who can will also find out what those characters state.
     
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    Yeah PT965...Layup - 87A...

    Awesome pics..I am loving these racquets..just amazing feel and NO vibrations.
     
  19. thejackal

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    under "layup", it says "batch number" C794 and then "model number" PT965, if my chinese is to be believed. below that is "handle number", which is blank
     
  20. gavna

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    Gonna string up 3 with Alu Power 125 at 48, 52 and 55 lbs to see how that hits. Happy with 8 g of lead total on the head and Using the new Tecnifibre lead "strips" that are 2g each - I'm soooooo used to tighter strings but willing to drop below 55 just to see.
     
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    been playing as low as 46lb with dunlop 4D 300tours with a very similar weight distribution. you'll probably like the way it plays with the lower tensions. the overall setup is fairly close to what milos raonic and frank dancevic have (poly at low tension, dense-patterned 98in2 racquets with weight under the bumper)
     
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    i think that is old bullit elite mold same as Verdasco andold Tipsarevic frame before he switched to a current frame
     
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    I read that Elite frame was stiff. So I guess this layup is softer and meant to mimic the 630.
     
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    Correct, the Elite was stiff, and felt stiffer.
    However, I remember having one Pro stock TF, same mold as this and was as soft as this stick...
     
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    Question remains 16M or 18M
    I'm playing with Prestige Mid, always wanted something easier to play with. But not at the expence of overall feel, stability etc.
    I remember someone complained that Prestige Mid 16M pro stock was not very impressive compared to regular 18M. So I understand open pattern is not always a good thing for same mold.
     
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    I am using the 18..just gives me more options for stringing and the control is laser-like.

    Not sure if you can really go wrong with either pattern.
     
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    Has anyone hit with both the Tec and the Yonex 97T 310? Other than stiffness, specs looks similar. I imagine the throat design on the Yonex throat would also add to a firmer feel than the Tec.

    Any comments would be appreciated - the inability to demo the Tec makes actual owners' comments even more valuable than usual.
     
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    i'm in the same boat. Coming from a i.prestige mid im undecided on the 16m or 18m.

    I've read all the pages and reviews and im still not too sure.

    Obviously the open pattern = more spin. Which could be great for serves and tough long rallies.

    But the 18m is going to offer more control and with a low SW, it seems the 18m can produce good spin.

    Especially coming from a 18x20 90inch frame, would the 16m jump be too much, and the 18m with a larger head be in the middle??

    What do people think who have tried both??

    As ill be ordering two and not changing, i want to get it right!!
     
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    I have the 16m and dont find any perceived lack of control.. has great feel.. im coming from an 18x20 frame that essentially "feels" the same (pt57a) as this tec. If i happened to spray a shot, it was my fault as the majority were not.. i felt like i could get the ball where i wanted it to go and to me thats as much control as i need

    They did a great job with this frame.
     
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    That is weird.

    Don't know what to think about it. Caps could make the frame a beast, or make it really sluggish.

    Have also always had mixed feelings on whether it firms up or flexes out frame feel. The feel of the Tec is so good, not sure what this would do to it.

    Quick, somebody, go do it and report...
     
  32. gavna

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    Not sure if it will fit........I know someone who tried to put on the Head grommets and it was a no go.

    Those are from the old 315 correct? If so I'm not too confidant that they will fit.
     
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    These weigh 22g so they aren't quite as beefy as a "real" cap grommet.
     
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    This racquet has so much mystery and intrigue around it.

    I love it. Total goat stick.
     
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    I'm coming from multiple 18x20 sticks (all prestige lineage, PT280) and naturally switching to a 16x19 pattern will require you to adjust your groundstrokes a little bit to accommodate the open string pattern. As someone mentioned earlier in the middle of this thread, it will take a couple of weeks or months to really realize the true advantage of this racquet.

    I can say over the past few weeks that I am starting to noticed distinguished difference btw both patterns, and that the open pattern takes less brute strength to generate power and spin, but requires just as much follow through if not more to hit an effective shot.
     
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    This was the only thing that was missing so that you can hide lead tape under the CAP grommets.

    Now I really want to buy a TF315 LTD when it is available at TW Europe! How long do we Europeans still need to wait for that?!
     
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    Agree there. Haven't noticed a huge difference in the patterns enough to truly say A>B yet.. Both lovely feeling and require a full swing for best shot and also best feel.
     
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    This seems like a great platform stick if you want to tinker. The only issue, spec wise, is the swingweight, but it's so low that it seems like you can build it up to whatever you want. May have to try and demo it.
     
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    You can't get it, but not many grip sizes available in the US. Many of us waiting here also!!!
     
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    I had a pt280 without caps and it felt less firm than my capped 57a's. always figured it was due to the caps. I presume the same would happen with this one
     
  41. gavna

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    North American only stick!!!!!! Tecnifibre saying for now these babies staying on this side of the ocean.
     
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    Read this post from TW Europe.
     
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    French email support said... JUNE.
     
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    Small bump :oops:
     
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    They are available at other retailers in the USA...
     
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    i'll be receiving my 18m in a couple of weeks, if you can wait till then i'll be sure to do a write-up with a comparison. :)
     
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