T Fight 315?

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  1. Power Player

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    Hey jack thats cool about the league success. It definitely helps to hold steady with a racquet and string setup because you just start to improve a lot faster after you get past the honeymoon stage.

    I think the 104 is a great stick..still have it in my closet just because the flex is so nice and it's rather unique.
     
  2. P.Floyd

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    Wait, what??? Seriously, stop reviewing racquets please.
     
  3. Dgdavid

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    Hi PP. Any further thoughts on this? Which string pattern is emerging as favourite?
     
  4. Carefree

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    So, I had my first hit after adding the lead at 10 and 2. I think I still need a little more beef. This will take a little more work though as I'll now have to offset any weight in the hoop with some in the handle. I don't really want it getting any more head heavy.

    I'm up to a static weight of 342 with dampener and OG. I'd probably like to get no higher than 350 which gives me a little leeway.
     
  5. Power Player

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    I would say 16 so far. I need to get it strung tighter though to really see for sure. The tension is a little low for my preference.
     
  6. Carefree

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    Had another hit with my first mod. Felt good, still think I need a little more plow through. I can see why people who prefer 18x20 sticks have a hard time choosing between the 16 and 18M. It's quite a closed 16M. However, I'm very impressed with the spin you can achieve. It's got a little bit of everything, the control of an 18M with the spin of a 16M.

    The serve has come around with this now. It's quite good to serve with. Good accuracy and power.

    I picked up more lead tape in the shop today and had a look at the TF 320. Good god that's an open pattern.

    I've added 2 more grams at 12, and I have put 3 grams under the grip to offset this. Next hit is Wednesday, let's see how that plays.
     
  7. Power Player

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    Think I am going to go with the 16 mains. For 1, I have too many sticks and the 18 mains is so good on strings, I don't need 3. Second, I have too many sticks...lol. 2 16s and 1 18 with forten sweet is all I need.

    So I will be listing 2 18 mains in the FS section this week, adding one 16 mains to my bag, and calling it a day.
     
  8. anubis

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    Still loving this racquet! I've only had it for not even a week and have played 3 matches already: one doubles and two singles.

    Won the doubles match and the first singles match, but the singles was only vs. a 2.5. I beat him 6-4, 6-4, which I wasn't happy with. I thought the score was too competitive for the large gap in our skill levels, so it started to get me thinking: perhaps I was wrong, perhaps the racquet is a bit under powered?

    I felt like my shots just weren't penetrating enough, too easy for my opponent to get to and to do something with.

    So, I had a match yesterday vs. a 3.5. I added 4 grams of lead to 11:00 and 1:00 (skipped the dead center due to my stringing machine mounts). Wow, what a difference! It was like... magic. All of the sudden, my shots were much harder, as if someone flipped a switch. I beat him 6-3, 2-6, 6-1.

    I don't think I can put this racquet down!

    I have a match tomorrow vs. an "arch enemy" of mine. A fellow 3.0 that is the most challenging opponent I've played yet this year, we're 1-1 vs. each other. I'm hoping that I can narrow that gap a bit.

    I hit briefly with the APD yesterday as well, it felt like a toy compared to the 315.
     
  9. spinovic

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    The TF 320 is a beast.

    I really want to try out the 315 16x18. It's been one of those racquets that piqued my curiosity as soon as I saw it for sale on TW.
     
  10. Shangri La

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    Wow.. just discovered this thread. Gotta try this gem.

    I'm usually a 16-main guy, but the 18m version sounds really tempting..
     
  11. badmice1

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    I've been tinkering around lead tape location a bit and found the following setup mimics PT280 pretty well. 2g each on the 4 & 7 o'clock position (4g total on head), and 2g in the handle with 1g towards the top of handle, and 1g towards the bottom. For some reason putting all 2g in one place on the handle made the swing weigh feel head-heavy. Maybe it's just me.

    The static weigh for my racquet is 338g (Pt280 is 340), balance 32.1 (unchanged from stock), SW unk.
     
  12. anubis

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    4 and 7? Don't you mean 4 and 8?

    My racquet weighs 340g. I have over grip, strings, dampener and 4g of lead at 11 and 1. SW is approximately 318.

    Hard to say exactly what your SW is from your description, but it is probably going to be less than 310. Putting the weight in the bottom of the hoop isn't going to add much in the way of swingweight.

    I admit that the racquet does feel more head heavy than it did before. I should probably add another 4g of lead on the handle to polarize the distribution of weight.
     
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    Yes sorry 4 and 8. I don't have a way to measure sw (didn't do the tw univ method). I should clarify that one end of the lead strip starts a little lower than 3 & 9, then adhered downward towards 4 & 8.

    My other 315M has about 3ish gram at each 3 & 9 o'clock and gives me that head heavy feeling. I slowly added weigh to the handle until that feeling went away, which ended up to be 2g worth of lead.
     
  14. Carefree

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    Out of curiosity, do you think that you would be able to put Prestige CAP grommets on this frame? Either the MP on the 18M and the pro on the 16M.
     
  15. Gee

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    This has already been discussed into this thread earlier.

    You cannot put Head CAP grommets on the TF315 Ltd.
     
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  16. anubis

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    Played my fourth match in 7 days with this racquet and it's still performing like a champ. Way more control, feel and consistency than the APD. I'm sure i'll be selling my APDs shortly, just have to take pics.

    This is the first time that, after buying a new stick, the "break in" period didn't net me any losses. I usually tank the first couple of matches with a new stick since I'm unfamiliar with it.

    I still get some wrist pain, but its a different pain than I got with the APD. It's more like, I'm working out different muscles in my wrist, muscles that normally didn't get used with a lighter racquet.
     
  17. Carefree

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    Sorry. Forgot about that, sounds familiar now.
     
  18. tgtennisace

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    The Tflight 315 16m is a 16x19 string pattern right? thats what its listed on TW but on tecnifibre website they list it as a 16x18...
     
  19. Lavs

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    I would actually perhaps buy if it was 16x18...
     
  20. Torres

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    Leave out the top cross string and you'll have 16x18...
     
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    How did the match go?
     
  22. anubis

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    I beat him. "arch enemy" is not really accurate... we're friends, we just like beating each other up. he's a great player, so its always a fun, but exhausting match. It went 3-6, 6-3, 1-0.

    Now for the biggest challenge, playing an undefeated player this weekend. He's still a 3.0, but he was 3.5 last year. Beat me once already. Must settle the score.
     
  23. Power Player

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    Stay with this racquet. You are winning with it and it is a frame that you can grow your game with while not having to worry about stiffness or vibrations.
     
  24. TimothyO

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    How is the comfort otherwise? What sting setup are you using?
     
  25. Carefree

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    Agreed. The beauty of it is that you can kind of turn it in to whatever you want.

    I've played twice now with my current setup and I'm really enjoying it. I find I'm getting used to controlling the shape of the shot now after a few sessions.

    Feels a lot like my YT Prestige MP with more spin and pop.
     
  26. Torres

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    Has anyone replaced the leather grip on these? If so, how did it affect the way the stick played?
     
  27. Power Player

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    ^^^

    Look for Gads posts in here. He did it and prefers that setup.
     
  28. Lukhas

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    If I wasn't that much of a rat/had more money, I would've tried this stick. Sounds sweet. 8) EDIT: Is it presomptious to think that in terms of quality, this is the closest to a pro stock racquet (hello Yonex though)?
     
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  29. Shangri La

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    Can anybody compare the 315 with the Dunlop Bio 200G Max? I'm particularly interested in control aspect between the 16m and the 200G - I'm pretty sure the 18m version will have more control than the dunlop Thanks.
     
  30. anubis

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    Full bed of BHB7 17 @ 50 lbs. I leave it on for no more than 12 hours before I cut it out and restring, to ensure that I never play on dead poly.

    Put it this way: I've played four matches in 6 days with it. That includes warm up time before-hand, so that's 12 hours of play time. If I had done that with my APD w/ same strings and tension, I couldn't type this right now. So in other words, not too bad!
     
  31. JGads

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    Yep, prefer it sans leather, though in truth I'm now very close in weight to the leather grip with Head Softac Traction grip+gamma supreme OG - both of those grips are heavier than their respective counterparts, so I think I'm only 5g or less than leather.

    With some lead in the hoop, what the more even setup does is drive the ball better for me, I don't brush as much, and the result is a heavier ball than before.

    Yes. I have several head pro stocks. This one fits right in. More pro stocky in feel than any other retail frame I've found.
     
  32. JGads

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    New favorite setup for the 16m, I call it The Yonex - a gram at 12 and then a gram each at the four corners of the head - 2, 10, 4,8. Leather replaced with heavy synthetic+OG, and Tour Bite 16L at 51/52. 337 grams total with damp. So far, gold.
     
  33. Lavs

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    Anybody tried 16m with Red Code 17? Or with BBO? How it feels?
     
  34. Lukhas

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    By "feel", you mean the sensations while hitting, or the quality of the frame? Maybe both?
     
  35. P.Floyd

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    I realize that I need to demo this racquet, so please no responses of that ilk.

    But, in the opinions of those who have used pro stocks with silicone (or even retail racquets properly fit with silicone), is there something really special about this racquet's feel or is it just the silicone? Wouldn't a siliconed Rad Pro possibly feel just as good?
     
  36. Lavs

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    Which grip shape and size does Tec 315 have if comparing to HEAD Prestige racket? If I used to play with L3 iPrestige Mid back in the day, do you believe 315 has identical sizing?

    thanks!
     
  37. P.Floyd

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    They use current Head pallets, which I've always found translates well with the older pallets size wise.
     
  38. Power Player

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    If you used the pt630 or pt57a , it feels very similar. I dont think it is just having silcone in it. Its a frame called a pt965 which is tecs pro mold most likely aimed at giving pros a very similar racquet to the 57a if they switched over.

    It doesnt really feel like a tec frame to me. Feels like a head pro stock. I believe the pallets will translate perfectly from head.

    People are saying that verdasco is now using a blacked out head frame. It most likely is still the pt965 that he has always used, which is this frame in the 16 mains version.

    For me the feel is the best because it is rather soft, the sweet spot is rich and the frame flexes just enough for comfort, but is not noodly. Tough to describe, but i doubt anyone who likes pt57s, and hates paying a premium would be disappointed.
     
  39. P.Floyd

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    Awesome PP; value your opinion and definitely appreciate the analogies to the PT630/PT57A.
     
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    the 16x19 are back in stock at TW Europe on Monday. 2 of them have my name on them. going syn gut mains, poly crosses at 55/52. playing stock initially. excited.

    re: the 18x20, can anyone compare them to the MG Rad MP?
     
  41. mad dog1

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    picked up the 18x20 and strung it w/ TB 16L/ItH 1.20 @ 46#s. compared to my modded MG Rad MP, the 315 has better feel and comfort.
     
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    cheers Mad Dog. Did you mod either the MG Rad MP or 315 18x20 or both stock? Also, why 18x20 TF over the 16x19 (with it's apparently tightish central stringbed anyway)? Did you hit with both? I am really torn between them.
     
  43. bad_call

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    not a mad dog here but my 1 cent. hit with both (PP owned) and preferred the 16x19 but then again PP didn't have them strung the same nor leaded the same. perhaps he will next time out for a hit so we can continue this.

    apologies if offended any mad dogs. ;)
     
  44. Lavs

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    Is it really true that 16x19 is tighter in the center than 18x20??
     
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    Hi David, cheers to you as well. :) the MG Rad MP is modded with lead in the throat and under the leather grip on the handle. it also has CAP grommets that i perforated to get the SW down to around 323.

    my TF 18x20 is still stock except for an OG that it came with.

    as to why i got the 18x20 over the 16x19? i haven't seen an 16x19 show up on the boards yet. ;) i'll surely pick one up when they eventualy start appearing.

    since Gads has both patterns, i have tried both of his which are config'd to a higher SW than is optimal for me. even though neither were just right for me, i actually preferred the 18x20 during my brief time with them because it had a bit more control as expected. they both feel amazing so i don't think you can go wrong with either honestly. :)
     
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    having strung both, the spacing of the mains is tighter on the 18x20.
     
  47. JGads

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    Tighter pattern on the 18m for sure but the 16/19 is fairly tight for a 16m frame. Always a fan of 18m sticks but still preferring the 16m here, although I can't bring myself to get rid of the 18m because man, it hits a laser ball on serves and groundies when hit nail it right, but I'm a but more consistent with a bit more variety with the 16m.

    All: please check your Tec Ltd lengths. I picked up a second 16m frame and just noticed - assist to Mad Dog - that it's about 27.2 in length. My other Tecs are about the same, 27. Didn't notice this until after the initial string job, so I'm not sure if the frame came like that originally or was warped a bit during the shop string job. Good news is, I'm a guy who loves extended length and am loving the way it's hitting, so it's not at all a bother. But curious if any of these are coming a tad longer from the factory or if it was the string job.
     
  48. BC1

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    Does anyone know if or when TW is getting some 315's in stock with 4 1/4 grips. They've been out for a long time and there's no mention of them on the order menu.
     
  49. tgtennisace

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    has anyone had the chance compare the 315 16M to the 320?
     
  50. Dgdavid

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    2 x 315 Ltd 16x19 ordered :)
     

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