Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Bubbagumptennis, Jan 14, 2013.
Good stick but the 16x19 isn't for me, going to sell it. But will try the 18x20...
I would be curious to hear your thoughts on the stick.
So how does this racquet compare to the Black Ace 98? Also, to those having tried the apparently less popular 16x19, what didn't you like?
That is a stiff poly? Is that a good base rule, firm strings in flexxy rackets vs softer strings in firmer sticks? What dynamics does it work with vs soft strings in soft rackets etc.
what are your thoughts on it?
Other than the grip shape - god I hate the almost rectangle shape! I'm going to start at stock wgt and work my way up with at 4 grams/time today from noon to 3.
Damn thing looks awesome......I put the RPM Duel in at 59lbs (might be a little tight but we will see).
I have not had a chance to hit with it yet. Maybe today or definitely tomorrow.
Well I'm in love........played 3 hrs on HarTru then a set indoors with the boy after his practice (thank you spring break!) just to see how it would play on a slow Rebound Ace surface we have indoor. Weather was perfect today - sunny, 72 no wind.
Rock solid - I didn't even mess with adding an wgt as I was having fun stock.....I could see adding just a bit but coming off the Blade 98 18x20 since Oct and messing with the new APD (my kids current sticks) for a month the 315 M18 just blows me away.
I layer with the PSLtd + for a few yrs and this has the similar feel but just a tad easier to swing and more pop ( 98 vs 95).
Solid, predictable, very very comfortable even with the RPM Duel ( I just love that string dunno why I should as I normally hate full Polys). I'm big 6' 2" and over 200lbs and I didn't have to muscle the ball - volleys great and loved serving with it. My son hits a heavy ball and for a stick that's 10pts light unstrung I had no issues getting solid drives back to him......
My only gripe is the grip......I hate that Head pallet.......as its does not come in a 5/8 I had to add one layer of Tourna grip then a 2nd over grip (I used thin Wilson sensation) felt much much better - I will get used to it.
My kid was even given the 15pak black combi ( I confiscated both the bag and 2 sticks - their MINE NOW!) - my son also did like the 315 but is so brainwashed on the hollow feeling APD........oh well my gain
How was your son given them?
You got it amigo
So, no in-depth comparison of the 16x19 vs. 18x20? Or comparisons to the Black Ace 98?
Gavna, Out of curiosity, Which person in Tecnifibre is he in contact with? I know Josh Hausman is not with Tecnifibre USA anymore.
I also have a sponsorship with Tecnifibre, but have not contacted them for this year. Josh was the only one I ever spoke to.
Yes Josh now with adidas.........Curt, he is based out of Florida and Christophe out of Paris.
has anyone hit with the 16x19 yet? 11 pages so far and not many impressions of it.
I have 2 16M's and just haven't had time to post a real in depth review. I switched from the Bio Max200G and it was well worth it. Does everything the Max can do but is better at net, has better feel (thanks silicone!) and is just more maneuverable in general.
It's a good thing that the TFight 315 LTD says Tecnifibre on it because if I did not know any better I would have sworn this was a HEAD frame. For you guys that want a "Pro Stock" stick here it is. You can pretty much customize it he way you want, it come in 2 different string patterns, and you don't have to pay through the nose for it.. Tecnifibre certainly got the HEAD DNA down.
vsbabolat. Please say you don't like it. I'm afraid stocks won't last until spring with all the praise!!
Can you explain this comment in greater detail? Thanks!
Sounds pretty damn good to me.
I guess i wasnt far off in guessing these were 18x20 and 16x19 pt57a clones
"clone" but with little more juice...just like it should be for us...amateurs getting old
im firmly in that bracket.. approaching 40 and hacking around on the court.. could use the extra help
Thank you Gavna!
I will try to contact one of them if I can find their email.
I got ahold of some of the Razor code 16 and 17g today so I'm going to try them out tomorrow - will string one up with the 16 the 2nd frame with the 17 tonight see how that plays in the a.m.k
My 15yr old picked up the 16M we strung up with RPM Blast at 55lbs yesterday and he is SOLD!!!!! He spent 4 hrs yesterday and another 3.5 hr s today and he said he found "his" stick....... All he wants to keep is the new Babolat APD Bag!
So now we have like 7 new 2013 APD's to get rid of!!!!! *bay here we come!!!!
That's awesome! I like the softness and stability of the frame. I have to add some weight to mine though. I'm too used to a 354g unstrung frame.
Tried these frames out at IW. First visit to the demo court, loved the frames, but had the willpower to leave without buying anything but some overgrips. After all, I already have a bag full of tgk Rads that I love.
Second day, returned to demo court and it was wide open (a rarity) so I got to hit for a solid 20, 25 minutes. Frames this time had Razor Code instead of Red Code strung up, and wow, they felt even better, i was massaging the ball exactly how i wanted... So I left with a few sets of Razor Code to try out in my own frames.
Two days later, Roger plays Rafa, an event I have to return to IW for even though I hadn't planned. After watching Rafa practice I return to the demo court... Fool me once, shame on you; twice, shame on me; three times, I'm buying this effing racquet.
And so it went. Oddly enough I preferred the 16m each time even though I'm an 18m guy. We'll see how it plays out, but the feel of these sticks is totally pro stock. Just lovely. And a sick paintjob.
cool post, thanks... i think i'm ready to pick one up myself, even without the demo... but what do you mean by 'totally pro stock,' a couple of people have said this, can you explain? do you just mean its light and easily customizable or is it something else?
Not to intrude on JGads response, but Head pro stocks usually come with silicone in the handle. They have a tendency to improve feel by eliminating the hollowness (even evident on Head racquets to some degree) and by reducing/eliminating harsh vibrations. That, to me, is the biggest difference (of course apart from the weight) between pro stock Head frames and retail. Not a difficult modification, and something that should improve every racquet, presuming you can withstand the weight increase.
The feel of the soft flex and silicone in handle makes for a hit that's about on par - feel wise, not necessarily ball quality yet - of my tgk pro stocks. Hadn't found a retail frame that replicated that as much as this one.
The swing weight of 301 would seem microscopic and this will be an interesting thing to play around with. I don't like my frames more than 12 oz so I don't have a lot of room to play around with to get the SW up to my usual 330 range, but at the same time I was honestly loving the stick bone stock and will play it that way initially. The frame was nice and maneuverable but honestly, it didn't feel like 301 SW. Felt higher and the frame played far more stable than that number would seem to indicate. .. This could all change and become a lead mess when I get I to actual point play with this frame, but rallying with it put a smile on my face every time.
I don't know which TGK you have but I currently have the TGK 260.2 and find that against heavy hitters, it's not as stable without adding a lot of lead to the racquet. Do you know if the T Fight 315 is more solid?
JGads, how does this new frame match up with the Black Ace? Can almost pick up two for the price of a new TFlight.
And how does the T-Fight 315 compare to the Head IG Prestige MP?
Extended 231.2 here. Absolutely doesn't get pushed around by heavy hitters at its current 12.0 weight. Beast frame. ... Can't comment on the 315 yet because I haven't faced the same firepower yet, particularly at net, but I was getting some solid pace thrown at me on groundies and the stability seemed fine. But too early to tell. I'll be able to report more next week on all fronts.
Black Ace is close, but I had limited playing time with the Midplus as I always preferred the more whippy and longer handle-d Mid. Black Ace and PRO Staff 85 were my 'best feeling retail sticks ever' and these TFights are right there now as well. Again still too early for me to do a full-on review to properly compare.. Need point play in addition to rallies, more time, string and weight tweaks. All I can say now is these TFights feel sensational on ball impact, just like the above sticks. And the Aces really 'drive' the ball so easily - yet to find out if that can be the case here on a consistent enough basis. Spin (especially with the 16m) seemed to be abundant and at the ready. I was getting super easy net clearance and line clippers aplenty in rallying... Key will be if I can thread needles when needed in point play, if that kind of precision will be there. In stock form, these are more whippy than the Aces but they could also ultimately need lead (tbd), whereas I feel like the lead isn't needed with the Aces.
Will be able to answer these Qs a lot more this time next week hopefully. All I can say for sure now is that the feel is fantastic, and for me that's usually the required starting point before delving deeper.
FYI, these could be available for demo somewhat soon. TW said they're working with Tecnifibre on it.. there seems to be some issue with TF dragging its feet a bit with shipments and such.
given that these are Limited, anyone think theres a chance they sell out?
Are they limited or is that just what's on the frame? I spoke to Tecnifibre USA numerous times before I got mine. They never called it limited and got confused when I called it a "315 Limited". They, along with basically every retailer other than TW just call it a 315.
It say Limited on the frame.....
but definitely not available in europe per the tw forum
Yes I know. Nobody else, not even Tecnifibre references it as such. Their own website and product sheets just call it the TFight 315. So far in every conversation I've had with them it has seemed that it is a standard part of their 2013 TFight lineup as opposed to something that will be gone shortly.
Thank you, JGads, very helpful.
I doubt the limited tag means limited in number. If there's demand, they won't stop making/selling. Babolat has the Pure Storm 'Limited' and it's been around for six years I think.
1) It says "Limited" on the racket
2) The rest of their lineup follows some logic, this one is totally different (mold, beam, flex, 315 in two string patterns...)
3) it is the resurection of the old mold they had 6-7 years back
I don't think it was intended to have this in their lineup initially...
Nope, they put on the website by accident. They didn't want to disappoint their fans/customers and produced it anyway.
If it ever goes on sale I would be serious about buying it.
Does this feel like the old mold as well? I had the older 320 in a 16x20 pattern. The feel was nice but never grabbed me like the reactions i am seeing for the 315.
Definitely the same mold as the 320 pre- vo2 stuff, however, I don't recall if the feel is the same. I remember getting one of the old Major sticks with a similar feel
Hi guys, and thanks for all the info. I haven't read the whole thing, so i am not sure if someone's mentioned about the grip shape. Please tell the grip shape of this 315 string 18x20? My current one is Head Utek IG Prestige MP, and i had to change pallets to make it like Wilson's grip shape. Could someone please compare between the 315 string 18x20 vs. IG Prestige MP? really appreciate your helps. Thanks.
Ok, cool. I really liked the old 320. The feel was decent, and the SW was rather low for the 12.5ish static weight. The 315 sounds like it has much better feel to it from what you all are posting.
Are you sure? I thought it was established that it was a pre-VO2 325 mold.
Pre-vo2 320 is the same as 300 Tour.
What are you thoughts about the Graphene Pro versus the T Fight 315? Which one offers more stability against heavy hitters?
You are RIGHT!
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