Discussion in 'Racquets' started by jdeloach, Dec 30, 2006.
I like my 320 VO2 strung with Black Code at 24kg/53lb.
Since last year I am using TF335 16x20. I only put a leather grip on it for even more feel.
At what position and how much grams did you add the lead?
Is the tfight 320 VO2 max more powerful than the tflash 290 VO2 max?
Here's a great resource from Tennis.com that will show you a number of racquet specs, including power ratings: http://www.tennis.com/yourgame/gear/racquetfinder/index.html
According to the USRSA power index, yes, the 290 VO2 max (@2139) is slightly more powerful than the 320 VO2 max (@2054).
Could anyone compare the tfight 320 vo2 max with the head youtek speed mp(16x19), prince exo3 rebel 95,babolat pure storm ltd, dunlop mfil 200 or dunlop ag100?
I could buy one for a good price, but I am worried about that a lot of people says it's too powerful. I hit with spin, semi wester ww forehand and 2 handed backhand, but i like to hit flat winners. I use full poly(tecnifibre pro redcode). The problem with my tflash 290vo2 max is that it is not stable enough and that's a problem against big hitters.
Running out the door for a baptism at the moment.... but what say the 'club' of the vo2Max 325-18x19-12.1oz.-7pts.HL....
I'll search the thread when I return.... but would love the input from the club.
I'm so disillusioned, I have been playing with the old 16x20 tfight 320 (pre Vo2 ) GRIP 2 (4 & 1/4) rackets for around 18+ months now and although I absolutely love them my results have been awful. I feel like technically I have not changed and I am actually slightly fitter and stronger than I used to be. I always feel totally disconnected from them ... WHY ?
People without exception say I dont play anywhere near as well as I used to with my previous sticks and that there isnt much on the ball. I have tried a million different leading/stringing combinations but its always the same. They feel lovely to me and I have confidence in them but I lose to people I would never have lost to before. I just dont get it, and I have felt this way since day one. I want to love them and it has always felt like they are the holy grail and that my adaptation to them is just around the corner... BUT it never happens.
I have six of them. Its killing me but I think they HAVE to go .... a year and a half and still Im getting awful results despite loving them- even in practice. GRRRRRR!!!!
Any of you guys want first refusal to help me fund something new ?
Dude, it's time to move on. You're banging your head against the proverbial wall. You say you love them, but not the results. You should love a racquet BECAUSE of the results. No results, no love in my book. 18 months is way too long to be that frustrated. You've done your due diligence in experimenting and being patient for things to come around. When other people are confirming what you believe to be the case yourself that's a telltale sign. Embrace change, and find that new (or slightly used) racquet that will fit your game, rather than waiting for your game to adjust to a racquet. There are too many choices out there to limit yourself to that. Unless you're on the pro circuit, you should be having lots of fun playing, not laboring over your equipment. Look at the specs of the racquets you played so well with in the past and see what is now available. And demo, demo, demo to find what works for you. Even if it's only in your head, a new stick can bring much needed confidence and success.
I'm guessing with the number of 320 lovers out there that you won't have any problems finding yours a good home.
Pull the trigger and let yourself enjoy tennis again.
Thanks thats a brilliant post, I somehow have felt guilty as I have been telling everyone these are the holy grail for 18 months without the evidence to back it up,,,,,,, I dont know why but I have tried so hard to be loyal to them despite everything..... but Im just kidding myself
Right time to bite the bullet and get rid...... It feels good... free ... Thanks
You sound better already. I don't think I told you anything you had not already figured out for yourself. There are times all of us just need that last little bit of confirmation to get moving forward.
Good luck, and keep us posted on the success we all know you will have with your next choice.
Could you control the power of the tfight 320 VO2?
Would it be a too big change from tflash 290 VO2 max?
Beneszilo, got your email, and I'm working on a response once I have time. In short though, the 320's power can be controlled with the right strings/ tension, I found. It has less power than the 290, though, although it has more mass, so it you swing faster it will get you more power.
thank you Zidane!
hey anyone in the T FIGHT CLUB want my sticks before I advertise them to the general public.
First refusal huh? you guys never knew this club has privileges for memebership LOL
nickynu at hotmail dot co dot uk
The rackets were scheduled to be delivered two days ago, but still no sign of them.
Damned postal strike..
Allegedly was supposed to be 10 points HL.So i used a pencil and put it together with my BB 11 mid and Volkl DNX 10 mid.The 2 of them with strings and variations are supposed to be around 6,8 point HL,and they had very similar angle while the T Fight had the head much lower.Therfore being more head heavy.
Has anybody had any problems like this one?What about their quality control i've read many comments saying that their QC isn't good at all.
thanks for the replies T Fight Club.
I had a similar experiance that has put me a bit off on TF sticks. I demo'd the 300 speedflex, which is supposed to be 320mm balance point and 300g unstrung. I compared with other sticks I was demo'ing at the time that were spec'd out at the same weight and balance. But the TF was by far the most head heavy of the lot (Babolat PDGT and Dunlop 4D500T for example). Several non-tennis folks walked by my desk at work and picked up the four racquets that came from TW for my demo and every single one of them said the same thing.
I also play with the T-Fight 335, 16x20 and I agree that (although I never measured the balance) it does feel a lot more head heavy than 10 pts HL. I don't think it's quality control because I have two and the feel exactly the same (balance, flex, weight, etc.). I changed the grip to Babolat, leather and that changed the balance as well as increased feel, I thought the Tecnifbre grip was too muted. I have several friends that play with the KSix-One 95 (8 pts HL) and my T-Fight still feels more head heavy but I like it, the KSix-One is too HL for my tastes. Hope this helps
My 335 was really HL. I loved the racquet, but that extreme head light balance drove me nuts. I could have weighted it, but it was already 12.3 ozs, so I sold it. It is basically a Pro Staff copy, which is always nice.
I then went to the 320 as seen in this thread. I could not control the power, and stringing that racquet over 58#s just killed my arm. I would strongley reccomend AGAINST trying to control the 320 V02 with string tension. You have to use a more western grip and a windshield wiper stroke to really get that baby under control. I do both of these things and still had too much power from it. I realized I do not need tweener sticks after this and the APDC, and I went to a Radical Pro, which is a thinner beam..heavier stick and offers more control.
I've also got a 335 16x20 that I've had some balance issues with. Probably more personal preference than anything. As was mentioned earlier, I'd like to play with the balance a bit, but it's already 12+ and sluggish for me after a set. If anyone is interested, I'll make you a good deal. 4-5/8" and in good shape.
I've only had excellent quality results with my Tecnifibres. I have 5 320 VO2s and every racquet has been identically weighted and balanced, and these were with different batches from different suppliers at different times. I don't have a balance board to know if the actual balance matches the spec balance, but the balances across the racquets are the same.
Do you think it's hard to control the power of the 320 VO2?
Can anyone take a full fast swing with this racquet without the ball going out?
I can try it out next week.
I have two 320s, and one is one pt more hl than the other...plus the color is slightly off between the two, with one more bright than the other...probably came from different batches...have a third one coming in, wonder how close that will be...
OK HOW ABOUT? A 3 for 2 swap in your favour if anyone is interested?
I swap three of my 2007/8 (pre vo2) Grip 4&1/4 tfight 320 16x20
for 2 of your :
tfight 320 Vo2 max in either grip 4&1/4 or 4&3/8ths.
assuming in similar condition, mine are probably as good as 8/10
nickynu at hotmail dot co dot uk
No, I don't think it's hard to control the power on the 320 VO2. I put it in the mid+ power range. I never really lack for power on any racquet given my swing mechanics, but the 320 VO2 has a good amount. For me, it's very controllable and perfect for my game; the headlight balance makes racquet speed easy. For me, it's less powerful than a tweener (PD, APDC), but more powerful than a player racquet (RDS 002 Tour, e.g.).
As with other racquets, much depends on the string and spin and your particular form, but I have no problem taking full cuts and keeping the ball in play (caveat: I'm an aggressive topspin user, at least on the FH wing).
I string my polys in the low 50-s and gut in the mid 50s-60 range, so it does not require a high tension to keep control. YMMV
I'll let you know what I think in the next week
I couldn't have described it better. Def a lot more power than a traditional player's frame but less than a tweener. If you are not a heavy topspin user, you could def have some trouble. That is the area I have had most problem with this racquet. I was once a mostly flat ball hitter with the KBlade Tour, but as I progressed to a more extreme topspin game and the TFight 320, I found I'm winning more points off of errors and being more consistent than my opponent rather than winners, which doesnt necessarily translate to a lot of wins.
Thus I've been trying to recapture my former self. I've been putting in some time with the MGPP, and it's a nice frame, a little more low powered than the TFight 320 but with a lot of spin potential as well. To offset my recent purchase, I'm looking to sell a couple of my three TFight 320 Vo2 maxes, as I don't really need three anyways...if anybody in the TFight club is interested, let me know and we can set up a deal. They are in 3/8 and 8-9/10 condition.
Oh no NOT again... Yes I know I'm a fine one to talk!!! LOL
Does 4 x my tfight 320 Tfight 16x20 PRE Vo2 max for your 3x 320 Vo2 Max appeal at all as that sounds more the kind of stick that would suit you from the way you describe it?
Let me know... That way we stay in the Tfight club !
Sorry Nick, I have had the pre ones before and am not interested in picking them back up, but thanks. I will probably be keeping one or two 320s so no worries I'm still in the club. : )
I have 3 demos ordered from
TW, do I qualify?
My grip 4&1/4 PRE Vo2 Tfight 320s are on the bay now as Im shocked by the lack of interest on TT
What are you asking for them? Not that I am interested but generally a lack of interest for used goods for sale is directly correlated to the price you're asking. Are you asking what others asking and if the answer is yes and still no interest you may consider lowering the price.
Hi no its not the price 3 of the 7 available have sold already on **** to two different buyers, Im just surprised that tennis enthusiasts here were not the ones who wanted them. But no big deal.
just received my tfight 320 vo2 max. I'll write a short review on saturday.
Hmm...i'm thinking about buying a Tecnifibre Tour VO2 9-Pack Bag or a Babolat Team Line bag...But the tecnifibre bag just looks so beautiful, and everybody is telling me it's very durable and holds its shape. What do you guys think? Is it worth the money
I've got a pair of 320 non-VO2 in 1/2 grip size if anyone is interested. 9-9.5/10 condition. 16x20 pattern
Bought one, wish it had more pockets but still, it is probally the best looking bag out there and I am glad I did.
I just bought two after the 16th TW demo. Best racquet I have used in years.
How find this post. When I put a search in for some reason I cant find it.
Has anybody played with the TFeel 305 18x20?
I have started a thread with this question but somebody suggested to put it here in the Club also, so here it goes:
Anyone has any experience with any of those frames? My interest is the performance at the baseline. Groundstrokes, 1 HBH, not much top spin, slices and flat forehands.
I love control over power.
- Tecnifibre T-fight 335 (18/20 pattern) the older model previous to VO2
- Fischer M Comp 95
- Yonex MP Tour-1 90
I will get one of those for a very good price but just not sure which one to get yet.
Experience feedbacks are much apreciated.
Hey! Whats my T-Fight number?
Where do I get my shirt?
320 VO max
What do most players here string at? How about string gague?
Well nevermind about my question. I just ordered the T-fight 335 as it was the last one in stock, in my grip size, and had to decide quickly. I should receive it by the end of the week.
So, does this qualifies me to become a proud member of this club?
Forgot to say that I bought last week a Tecnifibre VO2 12 pack bag and I was carrying it full of my Yonex... now at least I will have a tecnifibre frame to go along
Just to let you know it is bad karma to have anything but a T racket in a T bag?
And one pair of clean underwear is ok.
yeah amazing racquet. I also got my second one
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