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  1. namartens

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    I am comparing the TF VO2 325 vs the Wilson BLX 6.1 95 18x20.

    Can anybody explain what causes the big difference in swingweight (326 vs 338 ) when the strung static weight (343 vs 346 gr) and the balance (7 pts HL vs 8 pts HL) are almost equal?
     
  2. Gasolina

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    The 325's used to be my primary racquet and I demoed the BLX 18x20. I actually had them as my final two racquets until I decided for the Tfight.

    As the specs suggest, the BLX had a lot more plow IMO. THough I only got to hit with the BLX's for a week, my swing was a lot slower and I felt I was relying on the racquets heft to generate the power.

    Serving was the same case. My serves with the BLX were a lot slower and felt I was "rolling" down my serves instead of slapping it down.

    With my game revolving primarily with topspin, I couldn't get enough racquet speed and not enough spin as I'd like. Most of the time I was praying that the ball won't sail long.

    They're both solid racquets though. The only thing is both are heavy and unless you're a pretty accomplished player, you'd want to get a lighter racquet (which I learned the hard way)
     
  3. ahuimanu

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    335's

    Am an old school player and just got in a few hours with the 335's for the first time. Am impressed with the stability and control this stick provides (but you guys already knew that :)

    Looking forward to giving this a go against solid competition. Really like the predictability of shot but wondering if it has enough tech to stay with the latest and greatest.

    Nice workout stick though as it forces you to focus on fundamentals to make it work well :)
     
  4. OldButGame

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    Where did You pickup 335's??...they're kinda rare animals these days!!! :)
     
  5. ahuimanu

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    335's

    Can you keep a secret?

    Got it from another TW board member on the sell/trade thread :). I love the predictability this stick provides. PM me if you want info on who to contact for one! :) (might have one left...)
     
  6. namartens

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    Did you move on to a lighter racket eventually? I am deciding between a tf 320 and 325. I have used the 320 and liked it's open pattern and power, but it was maybe a bit too much...
     
  7. tsongaali

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    My favorite tecnifibre racquet is the pre-vo2 320 16x20. Light enough to really rip at the ball and the open pattern gives so much easy power and spin.

    I tried using the 325 pre-vo2, but it was just too heavy and demanding for me. It's definitely for players who want a racquet that offers exceptional control, and is safe for the arm.

    If anyone is interested in acquiring another tf 325, check my sig.
     
  8. Gasolina

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    Yep. Yonex RQiS XL Tour 95. Leaded up to 335 grams, 330 SW
     
  9. TDL

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    3 can be sold!

    If interested, post you email here.

    Shipping only to Europe.
     
  10. Ross K

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    Tf 325


    How heavy are you talking?

    As someone who has recently found I do seem to prefer a bit of solidness and a bit of plow, and as someone who really likes the Pure Control + Swirly, I'm wondering if this frame might be similar to that racket but a bit easier to use, whilst having a bit more control, precision, and 'body' than, say, an APD, PD, and TF 320 for that matter.

    I'd love to hear about this, and any other views ppl might have re the TF 325.

    TIA

    R
     
  11. Power Player

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    Ross,

    You will not like the 325. It is a tighter pattern, and does not have the feel you want. If you did not like the 320, the 325 is not going to convert you.I still think the PSTGT or a Donnay gold is the best marriage of everything that you like, but that is my opinion based on your posts.
     
  12. mctennis

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    I use the 325 and I also have the PC swirly. They do not hit the same. The 325 is a lot more solid and will plow through the ball easier than the swirly. The swirly will hurt your wrist if use it for a long period of time. The 325 will not do that. I have better feel with the 325 than the swirly as well.
     
  13. Gasolina

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    Well both of them are over 12 ounces... so too heavy for me.

    If you wanted plowthrough, you could always add lead to the 3&9 or 12. For me, the 325 was ok in the baseline but just too heavy at the net. I do play a lot of doubles so going lighter was good for me.

    If you wanted more control, precision, and body? Why not go for a sure thing like the Prestige Mid?

    I've demoed it but the super closed pattern just doesn't suit my game. But nothing has topped the joy of swinging that stick around.
     
  14. Ross K

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    mctennis,

    Hmm... :confused: bit confused as, for me at least, the PC+ Swirly is extremely solid and plowy. This frame crushes the ball, pancakes it, and puts a ton of spin on it. I didn't think or expect the TF 325 to be more solid and plowy... and BTW, I also like the feel too.:wink:


    Gasolina,

    If it's a super-tight pattern then, yep, not my thing really.


    PP,

    I'm sure you're right. As you know, I've dallied with the TF 320 a fair bit because, in theory, it should be right up my street. Thus far I've found it to have a lot of good stuff about it (especially for aggressive b-line play), but the feel doesn't quite do it for me, I've been unsuccessful with leading it so as to improve the 'body' or heft or whatever, and, surprisingly, I'm not finding the consistent heavy depth of, say, an APD, or a Pure Control.


    R
     
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  16. neverstopplaying

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    I don't see too many comments on the 325 VO2.

    I picked one up in a trade a few weeks ago and have hit quite a bit with it. Other than being stiffer than what I usually play, I can't see much wrong with it. Great comments on the TW feedback, but not much in the forum. What's up?
     
  17. Murray_fan1

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    Yes the 325 is a solid frame indeed. Plenty of power on tap, good plow and pretty decent feel and comfort for a frame of it's stiffness rating. I preferred this stick over the 320 as it has a bit more control especially if you like to drive through the ball . Both are great frames and you can tell they are related I just preferred the extra plow and control over the 320.

    P.S I would not call the string pattern "super-tight" 18x19 is slightly more open than an 18x20 and provides plenty of spin.
     
  18. Gasolina

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    Yes but if you look at the sweetspot those strings really bunch close together when compared to other racquets.
     
  19. Murray_fan1

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    Maybe it's me but they really don's seem that tight. They're certainly not "tight" like a Prestige Mid or BLX Pro Tour.
     
  20. neverstopplaying

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    Have you made any progress with your string setups (as per your sig)? I received mine with a full poly mid 50s (my guess) and then restrung with BC mains (51) and x-1 crosses (55). prefer the hybrid only for increased comfort.

    String pattern may be slightly more open than a 90-93 18x20, but its not any different in the center than a 98-99 18x20.

    Are you the only poster using this frame?
     
  21. Satch

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    +1 for 325, i am really enjoying this racquet.. Be sure not to string it tight, somewhere in the middle or little higher is best.
     
  22. mctennis

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    I agree with you about the PC swirly being extremely solid and can plow through the ball. I do think the 325 has a more solid feel. If you don't use the right strings the PC can and will give you sore wrists. With the right strings the PC will play great. The PC swirly is the best/better PC they made I believe. I didn't use the PC + just the regular swirly PC. That's the reason I keep it is because I think the swirly PC plays so nicely. The 325 is a better hitting racquet for me though. The swirly PC may give more spin to the ball but I'm more of a flat hitter so it doesn't matter that much. If I attempt to use more spin then the swirly PC would be a better fit. I hit a deeper ball so the 325 seems to work better for me when I'm playing a better hitting player. If I'm playing a huge top spinning player then the swirly PC is a better fit. I have RacquetFUEL Comfort strings in my swirly PC. I wish I could find more sets of those to use. They are nice playing strings but only available in Australia.
     
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    I want to demo TF 325 and TF 320 VO2 (both black/red - I think old ones). Apart of 5g and different string patern any other differences?
     
  24. Ross K

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    Hey mc, very interesting post. And one that probably explains why the PC+ is more for me. I do wish I could get hold of a PC standard Swirly. In the meantime though, I went back to my TGK/retail Prestige Pro and I'm really liking it a lot. And as a side-note, I'd say that certainly compared to the TF 320, the solidness and feel is a big improvement IMO.
     
  25. Murray_fan1

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    neverstopplaying,

    I have tried many different set-ups in this racquet, B5E, Mosquito Bite, Hexonic, Typhoon, Beast XP, Polystar Energy, BHBR etc..... and the best set up I had was Polyfibre Black Venom. I think since it is such a soft string works well with a racquet of this stiffness- decent amount of pop, outstanding spin potential.
     
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  26. neverstopplaying

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    Thanks for the info. I enjoyed my hybrid setup but went through the multi x's in 3 hours. Never tried Black Venom - I've got a big inventory on string on hand so really I should go through them but I can always pick up a few packs.

    Actually I'm getting very used to the 325 VO2 and am able to naturally time my shots so well that the stiffness is not bothering me and I benefit from the extra (controlled) power. I see that you had a 325 in the FS section. Were you considering changing sticks, or was it an extra? I would be interested - you can e-mail me through my profile.
     
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  27. neverstopplaying

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    Update

    Still going strong with the 325 VO2. Not sure how long the honeymoon phase can last, but I'm thinking of starting a thread titled: "You know you've found you're holy Grail when.... ". I'll wait a few months.

    After a few poly/multi setups, I put on gut/poly. Amazing feel - perfect balance of crispness, power and feel. This racquet was made for this setup Last night's match: 6-0,6-2. The two games i lost are when i pulled out another racquet for the 1st 2 games of 2nd set I would normally win against this partner 6-3,6-4.

    I'm getting a few more games per set from all my partners after about a month with this stick and I don't see this changing. Perfect balance of power, control, flex (I should say stiffness), weight, balance and string pattern.
     
  28. xeros

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    I hesitated between 305 and 325 !! They look quite similar
     
  29. neverstopplaying

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    Personally I prefer the extra mass and more headlight balance of the 325. Also I think this may handle the stiffness better.
     
  30. mrmo1115

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    To all t fight users..do you find the grip sizes to run small? Or do they run true to size in your experiences?
     
  31. xeros

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    ok so what did the weight bring?
    confort?
    power?
     
  32. mrmo1115

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    Since I see most of you guys aren't 305 users..just wanted to hear your grip size choices on these t fights. And if you could mention what your grip size in previous racquets you've had. Thanks!
     
  33. Gasolina

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    About the same as others
     
  34. neverstopplaying

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    A stiffer racquet brings more power. The fact that it is heavier gives more plow through (momentum) - if its not slowing down your swing speed. If you're strong enoufh to swing it, 325 works better. There's a top American player that just won rg juniors with this stick, so it obviously works for 18yo.

    http://www.tftennis.com/news-events/tecnifibre-usa-news/bjorn-fratangelo-wins-junior-french-open/

    Add more weight to a stiff racquet and it is more comfortable.
     
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  35. asiank90

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    Does anyone have and TF320 16X20 (Pre VO2)

    Message me if you have. Also sorry for going off topic but as soon as I get my hands on some tfight's, I will input into this thread properly
     
  36. mctennis

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    How long are the strings lasting? I have a problem with polys tension not lasting very long. They play great for about 8 hours then they are pretty useless after that. I need strings that last longer than that since I don't string my own racquets. I've basically gone to gut since they play great and last a long, long time as well.
     
  37. 2kJosh

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    does having an old t fight 335 count?
     
  38. MindoverMatter

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    count me in! i finally managed to get an old t-fight 320, and so far i'm loving it
     
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    Is there anything better than black code in the tfight 320?
     
  40. Fed Kennedy

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    Not too many club members out there, lol. The new PJ is very nice. I love this racquet. (320)
     
  41. neverstopplaying

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    There are certainly not a lot of posters in the thread. Maybe we love of TFs so much that we're busy playing tennis.

    I ordered my 3rd 325 last week but didn't strung it up yet. Great pj.
     
  42. all-court-loser

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    i love the t-fight 305! :)

    best racquet i have played with! it plays so good that it is a big confidence booster for me!

    the only downside is that i cannot play stiff polys anymore due to its stiffness!
     
  43. vndesu

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    put me in got 2x 320 vo2 max and loving it but i am still looking for the old 320.
     
  44. Mikeadelic

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    Owner of two 325 VO2 Max (samurai PJ) here (soon to be three?)! Sickest PJ ever, not to mention the awesome heft.

    I've been looking to re-balance the racquet lately... make it a bit more head heavy so that I can have close to even balance (but still slightly head light). Has anyone tried this? Thoughts?
     
  45. Boricua

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    Looking into 325 and 320. What is main difference between them?
     
  46. neverstopplaying

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    The 325 has been my main racquet since my 1st hit back in June. I was looking for something slightly more powerful that a Prestige MP, or Dunlop 200 series, but with the same control. It is perfect for me. Great power, control, comfort and spin. For me, stiffness is idea - not a noodle and no discomfort.

    Some posters have found the 320 to be slightly more maneuverable and to produce more spin, due to open pattern. I've had no need to try the 320.
     
  47. Boricua

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    You are a more of a flat or a topspin hitter?
     
  48. neverstopplaying

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    My 1HBH has a lot of topspin, my forehands a fair bit but not as much as I enjoy driving through the ball with low-to-high strokes, not so windshield wiper FH.
     
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    ..........
     
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  50. Chace

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    Just picked up a Tec 320 samurai pj a couple of weeks ago. I strung it up with BM at 52 pounds. Great stick. Effortless power and really hits a heavy ball.
     

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