*** T-Fight Club***

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  1. PSC85

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    Anyone care to share thoughts or quick summary? is there as much difference in the stiffness with the editions compared? especially with the red/grey version? thanks
     
  2. ac3111

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    Hello, TFight users...I want to know how does the TFight 325 VO2 max or TP ATP grip feel compared to the Wilson 6.1. grip in terms of size.
    I am using L2 in Wilson Six One 95. Should I stick to L2 with TFight 325 as well?
     
  3. barakapetbe

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    hy, i'm from Croatia, looking to buy some tecnifibre 295 tfight racquets..
    I actually have two but, still, not enough :D
     
  4. llodra_fan

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    Just got the old black/white samurai pj T-fight 325 vo2 max. Haven't hit it with yet but looks great and cost me just 100€ strung with poly plasma (the racquet is a new old stock). I like the stock balance and actually feels lighter than the old Youtek Rad pro - probably because of the lower SW and more head light balance. I'll update this place with my reviews after I get a few hours on court which probably wouldn't be before the holidays.
     
  5. Power Player

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    Nice frame. Pretty demanding, but plays rather similar to the Wilson 6.1 95.
     
  6. danbrenner

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    I agree. The 305 is the best 18m I have ever owned. However, my sights are set towards the January release of the 300tfight. Essentially the same as the 305 just a hair lighter, but with a 16x19 patern. This I'm hoping will be the Tec of the year.
     
  7. ThirdEye

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    Just managed to buy one of the few TFight 315 LTD 16M that are still on sale. Can't wait to get it here in my hands.
     
  8. markiev37

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    where are they on sale????? :confused:
     
  9. ThirdEye

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    Managed to find one on amazon.de as they didn't have any on the TWE shop (just the 18M). If you're in the USA they still have them on TW.
     
  10. Irvin

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    Yes they do buy two or more for $169.00 each. You can buy on Amazon for $170-$179.
     
  11. llodra_fan

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    So here are the first impressions after hitting a few times :

    Much more maneuverable than the old YT Rad Pro. Probable because of more headlight balance and smaller head size. I'm still getting used to the lower power. I now realize I used to hit too much top spin than needed with the rad just to control the power. Interesting thing is I can still impart a lot of spin even with the 18 main set up and round poly - which means its true that spin is caused more by technique than gear.
     
  12. Pmasterfunk

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    I Bought a new T-Fight 325 just before Christmas, and I must say I'm pretty impressed with it. I find it really manoeuvrable at the net, and it's pretty powerful from the baseline.

    I'm currently playing with Tourna Big Hitter Blue at around 52 lbs, and though I like how it plays, I find it a bit stiff. Any string recommendations?
     
  13. langdon0555

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    I've never played with anything smaller than a 98sq inch frame. How big does the sweet spot feel on the t-fight 325? I'm thinking about demoing one. It seems like a great racket.

     
  14. hlausic

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    Try Tour Bite Soft 1.20. I play with the old tfight... I loved TB 1.15 or 1.20 TB Soft.
     
  15. llodra_fan

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    I play with the older VO2 max but good thing is they never really changed the 325 much. Sweet spot is little below average, so you might find it bit smaller compared to the typical 98-100 sq in racquets. I don't really feel any kind of stiffness and besides they come with silicon in the handles which is supposed to reduce any vibration reaching your wrist/elbow. You may feel a bit discomfort hitting off centre but that's true for any smaller head size racquets. The racquet doesn't provide much power which I prefer. I'd suggest to demo and find if it suits you.
     
  16. langdon0555

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    What about stringing it at a lower tension...that should open up the sweet spot some, no? I would probably string it at 40lbs with poly. Plus a lower tension could help with the power.

     
  17. llodra_fan

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    I suppose it should but I haven't tried that low. I do want to try 46lb next time though.
     
  18. Pmasterfunk

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    Thanks for your input. So basically a softer poly would help. Any other string recommendations? Solinco's a bit hard to find in Canada.
     
  19. eelhc

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    I have both the LTD 315 (16M) and the 320. I'm not sure what Tecnifibre was going for in terms of differentiation.

    • The 320 is supposed to be a 95 and the 316 98. But looking at them on top of each other they're basically the same size.
    • The 320 is slightly heavier but also stiffer with a thicker beam.
    • They are both 16x19 but the 315 crosses are spaced closer together so the pattern is denser.

    Maybe the 315 16M should have been heavier stock?
     
  20. Pmasterfunk

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    I think the idea behind the 315 is that it's lighter so it can be customized to whatever specs one would want.
     
  21. danbrenner

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    I'll tell u what. It seems to be taking forever for the new TFights to be released. Hurry up TF
     
  22. Top Jimmy

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    Ok, I got a Technifibre itch that needs to be scratched.

    Tecnifibre TFight 315 Ltd. TP ATP 16 Main (20mm)

    vs.

    Tecnifibre TFight 320 TP ATP (22mm)

    Any input on what I should expect. I demo'd the 320 and I did like it, but I like the extreme HL balance specs on the 315 (you can always add/can't take away.)
     
  23. eelhc

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    I have both...

    Based on specs, the 320 should be more powerful but I've not noticed too much of a difference. If I were to differentiate I would say the 315 16M feels more soft/plush and the 320 feels more solid.
     
  24. spinovic

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    I used to own both. I switched from the 320 to the 315 because of how great the Ltd feels. I would echo eelhc's comments.

    I have my 315 leaded up to approximately the same specs as the 320 (just a few grams at 12 o'clock). In my current setup, there is little difference in the two frames other than the feel. The 315 has a solid, plush feel that I haven't found in any other frame. The 320 wasn't uncomfortable at all. It's just not as comfortable as the 315. But, IMO, nothing else is either.

    Laid on top of one another, the head size looks identical, but the 320 seems to have a slightly more open drill pattern. That, combined with it being a little stiffer might give it just a tad more pop and provide slightly easier spin, but in truth, the difference is miniscule, IMO.

    Lead up the 315 and you basically have the same performance in a softer package, so it depends on which type of feel you prefer - the more modern stiffer feel or the more classic plush feel. As noted, I didn't find the 320 uncomfortable at all, I simply liked the 315 Ltd better.

    If you play them stock, there is more of a distinction between the two. Namely the power level. You have to work a little harder to get consistent depth with the 315 in stock form. But, as I noted, it is easy to customize the 315. Lead at 12 o'clock (3-5 grams) makes a world of difference. Basically, a little bit of lead in the 315 allows you to, in essence, get the best of both frames.

    To me, that's pretty much it in a nutshell.

    Of course, going with my setup also means the balance ends up the same as the 320. Getting the power level up to the 320 level while maintaining the HL balance would require adding some weight in the handle, which would require more work. I never felt the need to go that route, but you may if the balance is really important. Or, you might like it in stock form. I liked it in stock form better than most, but still think its better with some lead in the hoop. I'm considering putting a little at 3 and 9 o'clock to see what happens. Will update if I do.
     
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  25. Jura-SB

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    What's the SW when you put 4g of lead at 12 with 315 ltd.? Thanks
     
  26. langdon0555

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    Yes, I'm curious as well. Actually do you know the overall specs...weight, SW, and how head light it is now after the lead?

     
  27. spinovic

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    I estimate the SW at approximately 330. That's the best I can do as I have no way to get the exact number. I feel comfortable that 330 is within a +/- 5 range, which is fine with me. They all feel/play/swing the same, so if there is any variation, it is negligible to me.

    Fully strung with an OG, my TFights are 12.0 oz and 6 pts HL.

    I matched all three unstrung. Two of them were 318 grams and the other was 314 grams in stock form. I had to add 4 grams at 6 o'clock on the lighter one to match it with the other two. Then I added 4 grams at 12 o'clock to all three, bringing them up to 322 grams unstrung. So one of them actually has 8 grams of lead added to get it even with the other two.

    I'm thinking of adding a few grams at 3 & 9, just to see how it plays at 4-5 pts HL and with a little more SW.

    If you order new from TW, and get more than one, I'd recommend getting them to match them as close as possible, preferably two or three from the low end of the spec range as that would give you a little more room to tinker with regards to weight.
     
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  28. azrael201

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    i haven't scoured this thread yet but i'm curious to pick up a 325 TP ATP seeing how they are on clearance. Just wondering why there is so little on the forum on them.

    I'm also going to try out the 4g on head of 315 tomorrow to see how it plays. Spinvic you are saying that 4g on head and OG will maintain a 6pt HL balance? that would be perfect because I don't want to go any lower than 6pt HL.
     
  29. dnj30

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    My 315ltd has 5g in the hoop(from 11 to 1 oclock) and a 7g overwrap. weighs in at 341g strung. SW is 316, measured on an rdc. 319 balance(7pts hl)
     
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  30. azrael201

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    just bought a 2013 325 TP ATP to add to the collection. can't wait to try that one too. hopefully it won't be as bad as some of the dynacore 325 reviews.
     
  31. spinovic

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    It should be right around 6 pts HL. Mine are at least.
     
  32. ultradr

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    in the dynacor 325 reviews, you will see reviewers' praises on previous gen 325's...
     
  33. azrael201

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    i think after I added 4g of lead to the head the balance (just guesstimating) was close to balance maybe 2pt HL? Anyways it was polarized setup is fun for a little bit taking big cuts at the ball but it was terrible at the serve. Completely screwed up my serve timing.

    probably will try what i think sargeanto did with 2 at noon, 4g on 3/9 then 10 on handle if i remember correctly. I really want this thing to be up to about 350g, but definitely need it at least 6pt HL.
     
  34. azrael201

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    haha yea that's where i first noticed it and was intrigued.
     
  35. spinovic

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    With an OG, 4 grams of lead anywhere in the hoop should not result in a 2 pts HL balance unless you got a weird one that was off spec in stock form. Just my two cents.
     
  36. azrael201

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    yea no i believe you. must be my stick, and yea i do have an OG on too. The buttcap doesn't have a trap door right? I'm going to have to remove the leather grip to put weight inside the handle? And most likely I can't rewrap it with the same leather grip?
     
  37. dnj30

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    Shouldn't have a problem reusing the leather. And with an overwrap and 4g at 12 your balance shouldn't change much at all. Most over wraps are at least 5g, so it probably would get slightly more hl
     
  38. azrael201

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    oh really? that's great, all along i thought i would have to buy new leather grips everytime i wanted to customize the handle. i guess for now while i'm figuring out my setup i should just wrap lead around the bottom of the handle over the leather and then wrap the OG over it? Just not sure how 10g is going to wrap. What is that 20" of 0.5" lead tape?

    EDIT: I just tried unwrapping a little of the the leather grip, awesome it's totally reuseable. I guess the next pain would be the buttcap. I did measure the balance it wasn't as extreme as I thought, it was just 4pts HL or about 33cm.
     
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  39. dnj30

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    If you are going to remove the grip you should replace the butt cap to one that has a trap door so you can do future mods more easily . I have Head butt caps on my tecs.
     
  40. prosealster

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    What do u use to fix the head butt cap into the racket?
    Thanks in advance
     
  41. dnj30

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    Staples, or something similar
     
  42. azrael201

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    oh that's a great idea. do you know what buttcaps fit our pallet and where I can get them? I actually have a head buttcap on my second stick cause the seller switched the pallet for me to a smaller grip head pallet. I'll see if that has a trapdoor.
     
  43. dnj30

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    The 315ltd uses the head pallets, so the head butt cap fits perfectly. I had **** do mine, so I don't know exactly where to get the pallets and butt cap, but it can't be that hard to find them. I think all the Heads have the trap door.
     
  44. azrael201

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    just checked my 315 with the head pallet and the cap was not a trapdoor sadly. It was from an old frame so maybe the newer ones have it.

    Edit: looked up what the newer ones looked like. Yea mine is the one when it had a holographic sticker.
     
  45. dnj30

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    Is yours from a youtek version. They do have the trap door.
     
  46. azrael201

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    nope probably from around LM or earlier. My LM prestiges have holographic stickers. I found the generic Head butt caps on TW for six bucks a piece. Doesn't say trap door but I can see the indentation for a screwdriver to pry open.

    Btw, I realized that I actually put 8g on the head instead of 4...WHOOPS. Either way I'm going to start small with 2g on head and add more as I get comfortable.
     
  47. azrael201

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    Just tried the 325 TP ATP and it has definitely more power, but a bit exaggerated with the strings it came with at ~30lbs (feel/cyclone). I know it is 18x19 and I usually play with 315 18m but man it definitely had a ton more spin. Must be the string setup.

    I let my coach try out my sticks and I used his Bab Pure Drive Tour and wow it was so easy to hit with. Lots of easy controllable power. I think I may have to pick one up or at least mod my 325 to match as they already have similar stock specs.
     

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