Talent Code

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  1. ga tennis

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    This is a must read book for all parents as well as coaches.I got the book on c.d. For dirt cheap.Its a really good must read book.
     
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    Very interesting - Thanks! I will check it out.
     
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    Also read Mindset.
     
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    Yep, both good reads!!
     
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    Also Bounce by Mathew Syed
     
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    technique is everything!!!
     
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    Not really, you can have great technique but if you don't put in the 10,000 hours to be great, technique in nothing. Fabrice Santoro had pretty bad technique but he was a great player. I really liked Talent Code, but felt that Bounce was a little more geared towards tennis.
     
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    High Speed Processing

    Coyle tells us about his travels to the Spartak Tennis Club in Moscow which has produced a long list of the world’s top tennis players. Instead of finding a world class tennis academy he finds what looks like a rundown warehouse building. He doesn’t hear the thwack of balls on tennis rackets, because the athletes are swinging their rackets, but in practice motions with no balls. “.. they were swinging all right. But they weren’t using balls. At Spartak it’s called imitatsiya – rallying in slow motion with an imaginary ball. All Spartak’s players do it, from the five-year-olds to the pros.”

    “It looked like a ballet class: a choreography of slow, simple precise motions with an emphasis on tekhnika – technique. Preobrazhenskaya (the lead coach) enforced this approach with an iron decree: none of her students was permitted to play in a tournament for the first three years of their study. It’s a notion that I don’t imagine would fly with American parents, but none of the Russian parents questioned it for a second. “Technique is everything.” Preobrazhenskaya told me later, smacking a table with Khrushchev-like emphasis, causing me to jump and speedily reconsider my twinkly-grandma impression of her. “If you begin playing without technique, it is big mistake. Big, big mistake!””

    Why such emphasis on technique? Because they want to build the neurological pathways in the brain to make this action more efficient. This is where myelin comes in. A different way of thinking.
     
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    on the other hand, there's Inner Game of Tennis that relies more on intuition and not getting so hung up on the minutiae of technique.

    you can go back to the days of east germany, china, the old soviet union and look at the athlete factories and emulate them. they train boys and girls to be sports robots. that won't be the goal for my kid, but to each his own.
     
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    The Inner Game relies on "intuition" only after the process of striking the ball has been made autonomous by repetition of correct technique - the principal is the same, correct repetition makes the skill repeatable, Gallway is simply stating once the skill is autonomous that you don't let your conscious mind interfere with what has already been created. He is not suggesting an alternative system whereby you rely on your "innate ability" to perform a skill (as no such thing exists).

    @ ga tennis - it's an excellent book and I agree, should be a must read for all sports coaches.

    Cheers
     
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    I know where the next hotbed is !!!
     
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    The hotbed is where you make it happen, your the hotbed , your the best coach for your girl, you need to be creative think it through and get it done yourself.

    Ga I have told you in the past you and our girl come out and spend a week with myself and DB , have her train along side him ,shadow him for a week let her see firsthand the intense work ethic and dedication then head back and copy it and build your own sauna of tennis.
     
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    Getting a little ahead of yourself there Richard... er, I mean Brad?:)
     
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    I find the whole concept of talent clusters interesting. If you liked Talent Code, you really need to read Bounce, there are some fascinating stories in this book. Suffice it to say that there are a lot of variables that go into greatness, but without the ten years of dedicated practice, it's not going to happen.
     
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    Not at all unless he is into government handouts or lack the so-called self esteem.

    This is the USA where you can make your own dreams come true .
     
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    Its getting HOT in GA!!!!
     
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    You really beleive thats the only way ? That there has to be a certain mark you must hit in the jrs. such as the quarters in a slam or Herr or OB ?

    If so what about all the Jrs. who nailed that mark a few times over and are no where to be found ?
     
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    JUST GO OUT AND TAKE NAMES IN NEW YORK!!!! LETS GO DEIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    We have planned on going pro since he was 8yrs old , been on the threads here a while saying that , my question is when did you 1st here the goal was to go pro ?

    I think your struggle is that were chipping away at it and making the headway you don't believe is possible unless its done according to tradition.

    BTW we head to NY to win and we have a couple of more years after this one to return and try again if we like and if it fits within our plans
     
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    This is the best thread on the net. Like a traffic accident, can't help but look.
     
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    I can see that. Read the book Mindset...If you believe that you are having dialog with a closed mindset then there is one way to handle it. If however you are dealing with someone with an open mindset then there is another way to handle it. So which is he???
     
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    If he is one of the youngest in the top 10 18s then that does fall within the USTA's wild card criteria. Same with Kozlov. In that sense they both deserve main draws.

    They both accepted a main not a quali so now they're both facing some of the best 64 players in the Jr's. Let's see what happens next week.

    How ironic it would be if they drew each other!!!
     
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    Now the 12,14 ,16,18's don't matter ? Well you are finally coming around this is good ! See our plan was to develop in the jrs. not dominate them and if we are developing correctly things will fall in place "USopen WC" semi's at Super-nats ect. Also we are doing all this on minimal resourses "no steady hitting partners and no academies".

    At 16.5 lol he is right on track , just think next year he "should be 6'5 and all filled out then the party starts maybe sooner .

    I do like that your new challenge has gone from he can't compete with the top jrs and D2 and skinny legs to well let's see what kind of pro he becomes . Let's see , hey fly up this weekend and join us come watch in person and if you like what you see as many do I will give you some great tips on developing .
     
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    I agree number1coach. I really enjoyed getting to talk to Deit. He is such a good kid. With his mentality and the support system around him the skies the limit. Also i wanna say thanks Brad for all that you do for me. Your advice is priceless.If people on this board only knew the real you and who you are as a person it would change their perception of you.You are a GREAT father and Deit knows how lucky he is to have someone in his corner like you.Im gonna always support Deit and hope that his dream comes true.This time next year its gonna be scary how good Deit is gonna be.
     
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    Thanx but for the sake of keeping it exciting its good that they only know mr.b on here lol

    He is a solid person and glad he got to talk with you .
     
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    When blows by 150 in the world please tell us here on the TW board what your position will be then ? I and most of the board loves how you shift your position everytime he exceeds what you thought couldn't happen .

    So pretend for a moment he is 119 in the world ATP , please give us a sneak preview of your next "can't get it done position "
     
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    TCF is just helping you guys with motivation. He wants Deit to make it! TCF is a good guy to have these discussions with because he doesnt sugar coat it. I think its good to have someone like TCF giving you his opinion and feedback. Its always good to hear different opinions about the process. NUMBER1COACH i know you enjoy proving TCF wrong. Im sure both of you guys have learned alot from each other over the years.
     
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    He has been one incredible motivator for us and many others on here . I do enjoy him.
     
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    Are you guys leaving today for the big apple?
     
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    we leave at 1230 today
     
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    GOOD LUCK!!!! Remember hes playing for AMERICA now.Make us proud of U.S. tennis!!!! I know he will do great!!!!!!!!! Is he playing dubs?
     
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    Come on TCF lets just see what happens over the next two or three years. He has made great strides and is only 16. I honestly think he has a good chance of making it. Self belief and a crazy parent and 6foot 5 inches all increase his chances. I know his chances are slim but why not shoot for it?
     
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    Can someone please draw a traffic accident. This is the best.
     
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    Going to a top college provides an education if the pro career does not work out and after the pro career ends. It provides free world class tennis training.
    If the time comes to go pro before graduation most schools will let you return and finish for free after. For players at the top D1 schools it is tennis first, school a distant second. I don't see the downside of going to college to get ready for a pro tennis career. Making it as a pro is a longshot. Kids and their parents have to plan for life.
     
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    I loved the blowing through ATP 150. That was a three car accident I stopped to look at. You need 350 points to be inside the top 150. :confused:
     
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