TE & Racquets

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  1. Nigel Mellish

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    About a month ago, I got a twinge in my elbow during a 90 minute clinic. The next day I couldn't hold a tea kettle. The pain kind of coincided with a couple of changes:

    1.) Our club has a 2.5-3.0 bracket, and I've graduating to 3.5-4.5. It's much stronger competition, and the men's game requires pace to play at that level.

    2.) One pro suggested that I upgrade my Hybrid Hornet to Something heavier because of I can (could) put a lot of pace on the ball. I just started using a Microgel Instinct (no pain with that, even using MSV Hex at 55ish), as a bridge to getting two Ozone Tours (one with multi, one with poly. Never got to use the poly).

    3.) I started flirting with a one-handed backhand.

    So about a month ago, I'm upset with my two handed, and try a one handed backhand with pace using the Ozone Tour, and I got that pain in my elbow for the first time. I took a month off, and after feeling almost no pain at all, decided to try to play again. This morning, I'm back to square one :(

    One of my coaches did suggest that it was my racquet. Now I thought that to protect the elbow you wanted something head light and with lots of flex. This describes the Tour. But he was saying that the racquet wasn't at all forgiving enough (that is, I'm not good enough for such a small sweet spot yet).

    So my question for y'all is, now that I have another month to go racquet shopping, what should I look for?

    I was thinking of the Prince o3 white. Maybe a Speedport White. But I'm open to options (I'm inclined towards Wilson or Prince as brands).
     
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  2. Ronaldo

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    Go back to the Hybrid Hornet or MG Instinct and a two-handed BH.
     
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  3. Nigel Mellish

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    Ah. I sold them. Maybe I should buy some new (to me) of the same.
     
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  4. mikeler

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    Use the TW racquet finder to search for arm friendly specs.
     
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  5. Nigel Mellish

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    @mike - thats kind of why im confused, the ozone tour is headlight and flexible> by most regards that would be considered arm friendly, no?
     
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  6. Nigel Mellish

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    Racquet Finder Search

    With headsize 100-110 (for enlarged sweetspot), headlight, and flexible (bab 60-65) turns up

    O3 White
    Speedport White
    Ozone Tour (the offending racquet)
    and
    YouTek Instinct

    among others...
     
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  7. mikeler

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    What is the weight? I gave up my oversize and went to a mid plus. There are not many arm friendly oversize rackets.
     
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  8. athiker

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    IMHO there are arm friendly rackets and then there is technique. The most friendly racket in the world won't prevent TE if you are hitting the ball late (not in front) and with a bent elbow on a 1HBH. Do them both together and you are really a candidate for TE.

    If you recently started hitting against players with higher pace there is a good chance your bh timing has not caught up yet and you are hitting late or out of position and getting jammed. You say it started when you went to the 1HBH so I would look there first.

    Video yourself or ask you coach/instructor to watch your bh form closely and for those two things specifically...hitting late and bent elbow at contact. The shot should use more muscles then just those in your arm. Good luck.
     
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  9. ab70

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    Prokennex racquets are the best for arm/elbow issues. At first they feel different to play with, but when I try to go back to regular sticks I realize how much vibration/shock my Ki5 takes off... I also string them with the gut which makes it even better... coming back from shoulder surgery I tried to go back to K95 and Babolats than I usually played with and simply could not... even with the gut...
     
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  10. Ronaldo

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    Buy those racquets and two-hander back ASAP!
     
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    The Ozone Tour is a VERY ARM FRIENDLY racquet. The culprit is your 1HBH. I would bet my salary that you are hitting it late with a bent arm. Work on hitting it out front with a firm (not locked) leading arm or better yet, go back to the 2hander. But keep the Ozone Tour....it's not too much racquet for a 3.5-4.5. Big sweetspot and good power.
     
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  12. mikeler

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    I did not have time to look up the specs earlier. I'm in agreement that the switch to the 1 hander is almost certainly the cause now. Do whatever it takes to play tennis even if that means hitting a 2 hander.
     
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  13. KenC

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    What causes those twinges with the 1HBH is those shots where you misjudge the trajectory and end up hitting too close to the body while trying to go from low to high. Over time I learned how to just let those balls go by and lose the point rather than a couple months of tennis. In your case, if you are starting to play at the 4.0 level, it may be too late to try the 1HBH as it takes years to get it fluid. So, it may be a waste of time and a waste of elbow.

    From this experience you have learned that you are susceptible to TE. Its time to start thinking about ways to avoid it at this point. Your racquet is probably fine, but you may want to move to an arm friendly string and string it at the lowest possible tension. You should warm up carefully and never hit serves with a cold arm. There are many exercises for the forearm muscles that you can do.

    Like most people here, I suffered TE, and mine lasted for 9 months. Its important to keep aware of it and avoid it at all costs, even if you have to modify your game, technique or equipment.
     
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  14. mikeler

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    I know a guy who got TE from hitting his 1 hander too late. It should be noted that you can get away with hitting the 2 hander late which is why I will use it if forced to.
     
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  15. Nigel Mellish

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    Thanks Everybody

    I'll be giving up any thought of the 1hb.

    I also got a used o3 white on the cheap just to see if a bigger sweet spot would help.

    It's all academic right now, I'm going to rest the elbow until I feel 100%. Re-injuring it has really upset me and I want to be ready for spring/summer.
     
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  16. jimanuel12

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    pr kennex 5G
    fischer m pro 105
    these are my rackets for TE.
    heavier racket
    light head
    flex rating of around 60 or less
    natural gut strings
    lower tension
    they all help
    good luck
     
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  17. rk_sports

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    A friend who tried to switch from Head Microgel Radical to Babolat Pure Drive GT had so much elbow issues within 1 or 2 weeks of usage..
     
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  18. ProgressoR

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    I was in exact same position, my current racket too stiff and learning the 1hBH gave me mild TE. Thing is my local store doesnt have a wide choice. I heard PK is good for TE, and the Voelkl too, esp the 10 DNX, but no distributor where I live. MY store has prince ex03 rebel 95, and it sounds perfect, quite heavy, head light, flexible so I bought it. I am resting my TE few days before I hit with it, but I am really looking forward to it.

    I couldnt find a more suitable racket in terms of specs from Prince, or Wilson, or babolat at my store. Also think its softer than Prince Tour, probably more Head light too I imagine.

    Sure its smaller but i guess i just have to up my game, I have no problem with trying that
     
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  20. tom10s

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    research shows that dedicated exercise regimen, particularly "eccentric" exercises promote repair of damaged tendon. rest only delays tendon repair and in fact will almost guarantee that the tendon "heals" suboptimally. the "stress" of properly done exercises facilitates deposition of new collagen fibers in organized fashion that strengthens the tendon. "rest" results in unorganized deposition that will never be as strong as healthy tendon.....with predictable result that as soon as person resumes stressing the elbow the pain rapidly returns resulting in another prolonged lay off.....rinse and repeat...
     
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  21. tom10s

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    my advice is to just buy Prokennex 5G. this racket is tried and true for TE sufferers for ?decade. i got one when i started playing after bout of TE. man this racket hits as softly as warm butter. the most elbow friendly racket i have ever had in my hands. natural gut ONLY at "low" tension. trust me. i switch back to a more playable frame for tournaments and league matches, and practice with the 5G as my elbow dictates...
     
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