Telecom Italia Masters: Wild Card...

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  1. Zeta

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    Unbelievable.

    The WC for Rome have just been assigned:

    - POTITO STARACE (62)
    - DAVIDE SANGUINETTI (81)
    - ALESSIO DI MAURO (100)
    - ANDREAS SEPPI (123)

    No WC to Ferrero and Gasquet!
    What an incredible choice...
     
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  2. federer_nadal

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    2 awesome claycourters dropped for 3 people i have never heard of and one i only have heard of. Maybe those 2 are playin somewhere else
     
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  4. rhubarb

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    Don't they always chose Italians for wc in Rome? And the same for the Germans in Hamburg?

    Still, Ferrero being left out is slightly surprising, since he's a former winner of the tournament and would be a considerable crowd draw. Perhaps he's tired and decided not to request a wc, or withdrew a request.
     
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  5. Zeta

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    (28-03-2005 entry list)

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  6. Zeta

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    Strange, I remember Zabaleta was out for injuries...
     
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  7. rhubarb

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  8. Camilio Pascual

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    What makes it unbelievable? Is one of the four non-Italian?
     
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  9. verdasco67

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    ferrero not playing rome?
     
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  10. Zeta

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    They're all italian: but with Gasquet defeating Federer, and Ferrero coming back, 4 WC to italian players is simply RIDICOLOUS.
     
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  11. Camilio Pascual

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    Zeta - Not if you understand the purposes and historical uses of wild cards.
    It wouldn't make sense at all to give them to Gasquet and Ferrero, unless it would boost earnings for the Italian radio/TV media or the tourney itself. And even doing that might be short sighted. To fail to give these wild cards to the Italian players could impair their national tennis program by taking away a major motivation to compete.
    None of these 6 players did what was required to get in the main draw, so it makes perfect sense to give the wild cards to Italians competing in Italy.
     
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  12. dAgEnIuS

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    those damn italians...
     
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  13. norcal

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    what he said.
     
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  14. Zeta

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    First of all: here in Italy the tennis is ONLY on pay tv. Pay tv is not common as in USA. It's expensive and requires Satellite Reicever. So, there is a very little audience for tennis on TV.

    For the national tennis program: ok, I understand. But if the tournament loose appeal, you don't keep the media attention, you don't keep the attention of sponsors. And with the rumors about the regression of Rome Master Series to simple open...
    If we loose an important Master Series event, what about the consequences for the tennis?

    PS: For the tennis in Italy, of course...
     
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  15. TwistServe

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    This is absolutely normal to me.. Look at the WC's they give in U.S. tournaments.. all americans lol
     
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  16. Camilio Pascual

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    Your English is very good, so I am not making fun, but I didn't quite understand the 1st sentence in the above quote.

    I would hate to see you guys lose a Masters Series Event, are you really in trouble, I thought tennis was pretty healthy in Italy?
     
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  17. rhubarb

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    I would have thought Hamburg was in more serious trouble than Rome.
     
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    It just got worse. They just announced Nadal's withdrawal; he's being replaced by some Italian pro named Bungallo Billimoso.
     
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  19. Zeta

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    Yes, tennis is healty in Italy.

    But at the end of last year, some rumors began to spread: there's a lot of event in Master Series Calendar, and someone says that some tournament should be reconsidered. Montecarlo, Rome and Hamburg are very near the French Open: rarely a top10 plays in every 3... Rome appeared to be the weaker of 3.
    This year, luckily nothing has changed (until now).

    IMHO a good tournament of Master Series must create as show as possible: rookie sensation and big coming back, are the classic thing that attract public attention.
    Giving WC as prize for playing in Davis Cup (not even the World Group, but only in Euro-African Division!!), is not way the way to promote tennis.

    Let me explain: I do appreciate the idea of giving WC to very young players (like Fabio Fognini, a junior who received WC for qualifying draw), giving them a chance in a great tournamet - think about Gasquet at Motecarlo some years ago! I do not appreciate the sacrifice of the show only in order to make happy local players.

    I'm going to watch Rome Master Series next week: I pay the ticket, I'd like to see good tennis.
     
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  20. Zeta

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    Last news: thanks to the withdrawal of Calleri, Baghdatis e Mantilla, today Gasquet has reached the qualifying draw.
     
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  21. rhubarb

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    Good that Gasquet finally made it - pity that Baghdatis is out though, I was looking forward to seeing him.
     
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  22. dAgEnIuS

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    what about ferrero??
    is he going to be in the qualifying draw??
    these master series are crucial for ferrero to raise his rankings up before the French Open...
     
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  23. Zeta

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    I believe Ferrero WILL NOT BE in draw... nor qualifying, nor main.
     
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  24. SydW

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    Good for Nadal. He had played so much lately, this break will do good for him going to RG.
     
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  25. rhubarb

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    Er, I don't think Nadal will be missing....
     
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  26. Zeta

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    Nadal still is in main draw.
     
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  27. SydW

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    I thought Dedans said he withdrew.
     
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  28. rhubarb

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    I think it was sarcasm, judging by the name of his replacement ;)
     
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  29. SydW

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    I should have finished reading the every sentence lol I was actually happy for Nadal, I think he needs a break, he had played way too much lately.
     
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  30. aj_m2009

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    Well he did take a break this week, I guess that is enough for him.
     
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  31. Marius_Hancu

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    guess this is why they are called WILDcards:)

    but, indeed, this is to favor the local players, in all tourneys.
     
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  32. Zeta

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  33. Vlad

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    usually, it is the case but not always.. I remember when in 2004, Safin and Haas could not make it to the main draw of Indian Wells and Miami and both tournaments were kind enough to give them Wild cards to play in the main draw.. I would think that there are a lot of americans begging for a wild card but they gave it to the biggest crowd drawers.. and I think they were right..
     
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