Hi, Last week, I promised Cheetah that I'd go to the courts and try some tennis ball tosses for him, since he doubts I can throw. But I hurt my arm mudding the smooth walls at home, and didn't go to the courts till today. Noon, 68 degrees, RoseGarden courts are about 400' above sea level. Took out 2 really old Dunlop balls, maybe 3 months old. Stood at baseline, footwork like BenRoth.... basically 2 steps sideways. First toss, hit the top of the 20' high fence that is set 5' behind the backwall and 4' above the court. Second toss, over the fence, but NOT over the fence on the other side of that offset court, but hit the very bottom. Retreived the two. Other direction, this time service footwork only. First toss, middle of a 18' high fence that serves as the backfence, again 21' behind the baseline. Second toss, this with service motion footwork only, hit the top of the fence and bounced over. My shoulder was acting up, and another player showed up. Now you doubters, try it. Didn't warm up, as FastFreddy says, you can't pick your warmups in real situations. Service footwork seems to lessen the distance by at least 30', possibly as much as 50, as it's hard to toss at 40 degrees upwards with a standard service footwork. Try it. The gardener was giving me funny looks.