Tennis Elbow - Does it EVER go completely away?

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  1. JackB1

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    I have had TE in varying degrees since about 10 months ago. I started playing again last Summer and played a lot right away, with bad technique and blew out my elbow. I took about 2 weeks off and made a bunch of changes......softer strings, more flexible racquet, switched to 2HBH, worked on technique, got a "Band-It". Everything helped and it stopped getting worse and started getting better.........BUT, it never COMPLETELY went away. Is this normal and am I just stuck with it?

    I will try and explain what my TE is now like. I can play every day and don't really have pain WHILE playing. I do feel sore after playing and the next day sometimes. I really don't feel anything unless I completely straighten my arm and then I feel some pain in the outer elbow. It's not horrible, but I know it's there. Every now and then while just doing nothing, I will feel a few seconds of a mild shooting pain in the elbow and then it will just go away. It will repeat maybe 5-10 times and then stop completely. Should my right arm feel like my left arm when I straighten it or is some pain kind of expected?
    I still use my Band-it whenever I play and sometimes I ice after playing and take an Aleve if it's really bad (which is rare). But I would love for it to go completely away, but is that impossible unless I take like 6 months off from playing?
     
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  2. mikeler

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    Same here for my GE. I can play with little pain. I ice after playing, but it has been 18 months for me since my elbow has had zero pain.
     
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  3. mike53

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    I was off for 3 months over the winter and I still have GE symptoms.
     
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  4. Bud

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    It does go away eventually... however, you'll still feel some tightness in your elbow from time to time.

    Have you tried the Flexbar to stretch and strengthen the tendon?
     
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    Yes, I use the green flexbar almost daily. I need to get better about using it on a regular basis more though. Sometimes I will forget about it for a couple days....but yes, almost every day.
     
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    You may also want to try this (Post 101).

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=311129&page=6

    It's a stretch I do while on court... if you feel any tightness occurring.
     
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  7. larry10s

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    after 1 year mine went away
     
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  8. Gtech

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    JackB1, the symptoms you describe are identical to mine to a T. I came back 2 years ago after not playing for 15 or so. Same thing, way too much tennis with bad technique in the beggining, totally hurt my elbow.

    Many different rackets, strings, much improve technique now. No real pain while playing, but soreness right after and the day after. Icing, Aleve, green Flexbar, can't say it is much different and pretty much the same for the past 8 months.

    I also have the Band-it band, but I think all that does is make the tennis shop you buy it from about twenty bucks. I don't bother with mine anymore.
     
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  9. mikeler

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    I used the air cast for a month or so, but then my elbow felt fine during matches so I stopped using it. I can deal with the few minor pain events per day off the court. If I can play a few times a week with very little pain, life is good! :)
     
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  10. JackB1

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    The Band-it definitely helps. When I play without it I can definitely tell. I have much less pain when I use it. I would if I were you.
     
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    A few years ago (in 2006), after a long absence, I picked up a tennis racquet again. Soon after, I developed a pretty bad TE. So bad that my doctor put me on a prescription painkiller (Mobic, awesome drug, BTW) and forbade me from playing for a month. I came back later but could only do forehand strokes. My OHBH would just send me reeling in pain. This went on for at least 8 months and then finally realized that it was not an equipment problem but rather one related to technique. Weeks later, I became pain-free and to this day, I still am. To test my "solution", I have since played with various polys and even kevlar hybrids plus really stiff frames and my elbow feels fine, although I prefer not to use frames stiffer than 67RA

    I'm pretty sure that TE is not supposed to linger. The pain is telling that something is wrong, although the soreness is probably due to something else other than TE, I'm not sure. But I suggest that you take a hard look at your technique for starters.
     
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  12. armsty

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    You need to build strength around the area. Resistance training. It will though if you do the right things.

    I mistakenly used Blue Gear this week which at just 52lbs with a multi cross. Was leading to soreness.
     
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  13. TearSNFX

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    This is from my personal experience those of you who read may agree or disagree.

    I took a break from tennis for 2 years a while ago and when I picked up the stick again, I actually got pretty severe tennis elbow. I let the elbow heal COMPLETELY ( 2 months ), then I actually started to do ONLY light second serves for about 2 months ( 200 balls a day or every other day ) with out doing any attempts at 1st's and gradually I believe my tendons grew stronger.

    I am currently tennis elbow free no matter how many first serves I do.

    I believe when you don't play for a while the body parts you use for tennis become substantially weaker then when you did practice the sport. I believe this is what causes arm injuries and issues for so many people who take a break from tennis and start again.

    Of course my account isn't ruling out the possibility of wrong gear and wrong technique.

    I give this account of my experience because my tennis elbow was a result of swinging too hard without my tendons being able to handle the impact. Hope this helps. Maybe let it heal and do some work outs to strengthen those areas before playing again.
     
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  14. Kobble

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    I have had golfer's elbow and tennis elbow from doing pullups. What I did was rest, stretch and strengthen further. Doing pullups will condition those tendons. I would start doing pullups. When I swing a racquet now, it feels nice and light. Basically, stretch and strengthen is they formula.
     
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  15. charliefedererer

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    Others above have said it. The best way to prevent recurrence of tennis elbow is to strengthen the forearm muscles. It is the muscles on the back of the forearm that attatch at the elbow, and their abnormal overstretching at that attatchment site is the cause of tennis elbow.

    To get stronger forearm muscles, definitely keep up with the flexbar. You may find yourself graduating to the blue as you get stronger.
    But you should also be doing dumbell wrist curls, reverse curls and pronation/supination exercises. These are part of the thrower's ten: www.asmi.org/SportsMed/media/thrower10.swf
    And consider doing triceps extensions, which also strain the forearms: http://www.ehow.com/video_2361475_using-extension-exercise-machine-gym.html

    Yeah, its a bummer. But like most things in life, it's hard work that yeilds the best outcomes.
     
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  16. Slazenger07

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    At one point I had Golfer's elbow and Tennis elbow at the same time. Very ****ty let me tell you. However Ive used an elbow brace ever since and now I dont have discomfort from golfer's elbow anymore and my tennis elbow only flars up a bit if I play several days in a row. So yes, you can rid yourself of elbow tendinitis
     
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    Try wrist rollers too. Excellent exercise for size and strength in the forearms. You will feel a wicked burn....
     
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  18. SlapShot

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    Personally, I had a BAD bout of GE when I came back to tennis (would have been the summer of '06). There were days when I couldn't pick up a glass with my right hand.

    I can honestly say that the thing that changed my GE issues was regular strength training. I spent 3 days in the gym working a general strength routine, and I now use full poly at 60 lbs with no elbow trouble. My technique is now better, which likely helps things, but when I take a week or so off of the weights, I can feel it all over.
     
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  19. Joe Average

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    I had tennis elbow about three years ago. And at its worst, I couldn't lift a coffee mug. A childhood friend once coaxed me to toss around a football, and I couldn't grip the thing. So I bought the most expensive elbow brace I could find (the ones you can get at the drugstore work just as well if not better) and it helped. But that was three years ago, and the elbow brace remains tucked away in a closet (next to an unused Aso ankle brace), and I have not had a recurrence since. Honestly, aside from a few stretches ... and you can find many of them online ... I have not done anything in terms of conditioning and strengthening for TE (I bought a Powerball, but got bored). The only changes I've made were in technique. I have a one-hand backhand, and I now make sure that my arm is fully extended at contact. Apparently, a bent elbow concentrates the shock of the impact on the elbow. At least that's what I was told.
     
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  20. Overheadsmash

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    This is a good discussion. I play twice a week for an hour to an hour and a half and I really work hard to "lead with my but cap" and turn my shoulders and torso. My club pro says that good technique is the key to keeping TE at bay. Keep your technique up and rest more and it should go away completely. Playing with pain is no fun that's for sure.
     
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    I had it really bad and too couldn't lift a glass of water without pain. I stopped playing tennis and the pain lingered for about 9 months and gradually went away completely. A couple months after it went away I started playing again with no pain and soon after bought 2 Bab Pure Drive GT racquets and never felt any pain in the arm. I think maybe the only way to really get rid of it is not play at all until it is 100% gone.

    My wife got it bad in September and hasn't played since, and in February I got her the red and green therabands. Her elbow still hurt a good bit when she started using them and now the pain is gone. She still wants to wait a few more months before playing just to be sure.
     
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