Tennis players who also play golf?

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  1. austintennis2005

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    im a 4.5 tennis player and about a 16hdcp in golf-- in tennis terms i am probably about a 3.5 level golfer but sometimes play like a 4.0.

    tennis is by far my main sport and my muscle memory is deeply grooved in the tennis swing

    just curious if anyone has any insights or advice on combining the two sports (im talking about the long game and swing) i seem to have a tendancy to spin my shoulders around instead of keeping the right shoulder back more on some shots.

    also wondering what everyones ntrp rating is and golf hdcp?

    thx.
     
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  2. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    Scott Draper, anyone?
     
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  3. ATP100

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    Do you know what the stats are in golf??
     
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  4. Maui19

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    I'm a long time golfer who has just gotten into tennis the last couple years. There are a lot of similarities between the two swings, but there is one move in tennis that will kill your golf game: flipping the wrist at impact.

    You are right about the shoulder turn: in tennis it is quite a bit more horizontal than in golf, which requires that your right shoulder go down and toward the ball.
     
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    One thing I have always found is, if you play tennis and golf on the same day, be sure to play tennis first. Every single time I played golf first, it somehow slowed my mind and reflexes down and I was a dolt on the tennis court. If I played tennis first, it didn't seem to affect my golf, with the possible exception that I might get a little leg weary around 17 and 18 if I had played hard, or it was really hot.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing.
    A 16 hdcp is probably a 4.5, maybe high 4.0.
     
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    what do you mean by 'stats' ? if you have a 16hdcp it means on your best days you will shoot in the high 80's, in tennis terms a 4.5 tennis player would be around 7-10 hdcp and a 5.0 would be around scratch...
     
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  8. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    I would have thought 16 would be about 3.5, surely?

    Competent without being that great..(with the occasional really good shot)

    4.0 at about 12 or so, 4.5 say 7- 10, 5.0 anything under 5.

    I know plenty of scratch golfers who could never make it on the pro tour in a million years, so call that 5.5 and you're good..

    I used to play golf, got down to about 10 but gave it away, I expect to go back to it when my knees tell me to stick to doubles on the tennis court.
    (don't think I'll ever go much lower, though, can't putt!)
     
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  9. Maui19

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    This is a pretty good synopsis. I would call a 16 hc a high 3.0. I would say a 4.0 would be a 10 hc.

    Scratch golf is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay far from decent pro golf.

    Golfs is hard. Tennis, not so much. ;)
     
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    I guess your answer is no, you have no idea of the stats in golf or how they relate to tennis.
     
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    ivan lendl is probably a better golf player now than a tennis player. saw him at the open and he was talking about his favorite courses on the east coast with neil harman, while andy murray was practicing on grandstand
     
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    A pro tennis player won a golf tournament. I'd be surprised if a pro golfer could take a point off a pro tennis player.
     
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  13. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    I believe Adam Scott was a pretty decent junior tennis player, but I dunno how his form is these days..

    (insert 'score' joke and 'Ana Ivanovic' here')
     
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    One similarity in stroke/swing production, especially the open stance groundies, is the development of torque through retarding trunk rotation vs hip rotation...in golf this aids in reaching "the slot" which is key for the enormous power the current stars generate on tee/long iron shots. IIRC, Harold Solomon uses that term (the slot) when referencing work he does/did with some of his top pros recently.
     
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  15. chrischris

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    Bulls eye.
    To me , golf is more recreation than serious sport.
    It is a fine platform for socialising and doing cute deals though.
     
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  16. GS

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    From 1995 to 2002, Scott Draper won 1 ATP Tour title, and 4 Challenger titles. He also won the 2005 Australian Open mixed doubles title.
    In 2007, he won the New South Wales PGA Championship.
    I know most of you guys aren't fans of golf, but Draper pulled off a remarkable thing, winning at least 1 tournament in both sports.
     
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  17. austintennis2005

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    i guess you arnt from a country that speaks english fluently...'stats' is short for 'statistics' which is the study of numerical data...we are talking about golf and tennis here not 'stats' sorry to have confused you.
     
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    But what the serious athletes like John Daly ?
     
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    it's kind of like super high paid darts, isn't it?

    you need freakish hand-eye, but zero athletic ability.

    hell, you can ride around in a cart if you want!

    doesn't mean there aren't some good athletes out there, Tiger Woods, Vijay Singh and Adam Scott spring to mind, but people liek Ian Woosnam and John Daley can still succeeed, so...
     
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    Yes but broadly speaking some say its an excuse to get outside the office and somehow feel connected to nature.
     
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    Australian cricketer Ricky Ponting is off a handicap of one and is tipped to go on the golf circuit.
     
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  22. GS

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    Well, there's also the sport of Speed Golf, which was invented in 1979. You carry a limit of 6 clubs and run like heck between your shots. Your score is totalled with the lowest combination of strokes and time runned. Usually, this amounts to 5 miles of running after 18 holes.
     
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    Sergio Garcia is supposedly pretty good at tennis. Think Nadal says in his book they play sometimes.
     
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  24. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    I can vouch for this, My sister plays with his mother a fair bit, guy is a phenomenal athlete, could have been a pro footballer if his cricket career hadn't taken off so early.
     
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    I think in golf, you can concentrate on your own swing and the course. The golf balls are on YOUR side....meaning you can choose faster, slower, deader, or livelier.
    In tennis, your competition is the opposing player, the court somewhat (wind, sun, temps), yourself, but also a moving ball, which can sometimes overpower your sense's ability to process all that information in time to react.
    Just more different factors in tennis, and you can't control the pace of the game.
     
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  26. Overheadsmash

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    I played golf for thirty years, then switched to tennis three and a half years ago. Have an 8 handicap in golf, and am already sitting at between a 3.5 and 4.0 in tennis. The golf swing is a lot like the tennis forehand. Weight is back, and weight has to transfer forward. Except in golf, you are not stepping in like in a good tennis stroke, you arer just moving your weight onto your left side (if right handed). In both golf and tennis, you need a good shoulder turn.

    Like in tennis, in golf you have to groove your stroke. Also like in tennis, proper technique is critical if you ever want to play at a high level. Lastly, hand-eye coordination helps in both sports.
     
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  27. LeeD

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    I think it's much harder to compensate for different spins in tennis than it is to compensate for different lies in golf.
    Plus, the opponent is not in groove with what you are trying to do.
     
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