Tennis racquet gadgets

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by The Dark Knight, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. The Dark Knight

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    Anyone try out any weird or new tennis racquet gadgets ?

    Just found this online. Does anyone know of its any good?

    Www.gripyou.com
     
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    Doesn't seem that useful to me. Maybe I just am consistent with where I put my hand on my grip?

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    None of their claims make sense. They talk like it will fix every aspect of your game. Run away!

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    There was a website that sold western grips. A Wonder Wedge
     
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    Ridiculous. I think they should have spent more time thinking of something actually useful to the majority of players instead of making decorations for the racquet. Yes. Decorations.
     
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  6. NickJ

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    Absolutely.
     
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    I invented the forehand. Everyone who uses one must pay me 5p everytime they hit one.
     
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    Yup ....it's sort of a copy and it seems better in some ways and inferior in others.

    The " gripyou" creates a shelf for your index finger to rest on the same as the wonder wedge. This is really cool and does work.

    In the sense the gripyou seems better as the wonder wedge runs down the whole length of the grip.

    On the other hand the wonder wedge also allows you to create that "shelf" for

    Your semi western as well.

    However the wonder wedge completely ruins an Eastern forehand grip .

    What seems interesting about the gripyou to me is the butt cap......that looks really cool and I cannot wait to try it:

    Here's a pic of the wonder wedge......I just use five pieces of double sided mounting tape so there's no need to buy the wonder wedge.

    Check out the pic of the wonder wedge:

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  10. tennismonkey

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    this reminds me of john candy in planes, trains and automobiles when he's selling shower curtain rings to teenagers.
     
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  12. The Dark Knight

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    Lol..... But what struck me as cool was the butt cap......it looks really cool.

    Seems like you can grip the racquet better and add more power , feel etc etc.

    I bought it and I am waiting for it. I'll let you know if it's b.s or not.
     
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  13. The Dark Knight

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    Dont try this at home:


     
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  14. The Dark Knight

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    The babolat play and connect tennis racquet.

    Not really sure how this works . But apparently there is a computer chip in the handle that transmits your stroke s to a computer for analysis :

    [​IMG]
     
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    Oh, by the way, I also invented the one handed backhand, but seeing as how the kids don't really use it anymore I won't be charging my usual 5p per shot invention. Now, if some of you pikers owe me for your forehands? Now's the time to settle your bill .....
     
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    Since it was mentioned, about the wonder wedge, would it make a head grip a more wilson shape or is it more extreme than that?
     
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  18. The Dark Knight

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    Far more extreme.

    The grip I find completely useless for an Eastern.....in fact it ruins the eastern grip because the wonder wedge lays exactly on the main bevel needed for an eastern.

    Having said that the wonder wedge is amazing for all other grips.

    It acts as a "shelf" for your hand to sort of push off of. It makes your shots so much more powerful ..absolutely amazing how such a minor thing makes such a difference. More so than strings or the racquet you choose.

    For the continental the top of the grip acts as a "shelf" for your index finger to lay on and push off of . Your serves will be mor powerful, more exact and basically better in every regard. Those "you grip" things use the same idea....by placing a ring in the appropriate spot it gives your index finger a "shelf" to rest on and push off of.

    For the semi western the entire wedge acts as a shelf rather than just the top as in a continental. So with a semi western your hand locks into the grip and your hand is able to push off for more power and topspin. It just makes your strokes stronger. I don't get how the "yougrip" helps in this regard.

    It's the butt cap of the "yougrip" that interests me. It seems as thoug it also acts as a brace to lock in the bottom of your hand....a "shelf" for the bottom of your hand to lock in and push off of.....I haven't received it yet so I can't review it.

    The wonder wedge really does work. It will power up your game. When you first use it you will be spraying balls over the fence because of all the power you gain.
     
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    [​IMG]

    That...is....just....ridiculous. As well as being uncomfortable.
     
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    A shelf for your hand to "push of of"? "index finger to lay on & push off of"? More power, serve better in every regard? Sounds like a salesman on commission. I don't think that my hand or index finger "push off" when I hit! More of a difference than the strings?
    I think that I can safely say that, by the way you describe the benefits of the Wonder Wedge, it's mostly in your head! Absolute snake oil relative to the improvements as you describe them. It may give you a different grip on the racquet, but when you talk about hands & fingers "pushing off", I know you have a very vivid imagination.

    Cheers,
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  21. The Dark Knight

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    Think about for a second....it's hard to explain.....but if you don't believe it just look at what the pros do......they also all have custom made handles for their specific hands.

    In fact Roman Prokes will take a mold of your hand to custom make the grip to fit your hand.

    Babolat had the same idea as the wonder wedge and they had come out with a grip with a bubble in it to fit your hand......but it six compared to the wedge.

    The wedge is a cheap way of doing it but not the best...we can't all afford the real way to do it.

    Let me try to explain it a different way......your hand is not flat so why on earth should the grip be flat?

    Same principles apply to your feet. Your feet are not flat so sneakers are made with arches....for high arches you can put in an arch support for your feet....the pros of course have it custom made.

    Same principle applies to your hand.....it has an arch just like your feet do....the handle should support it the same as an arch support supports your feet.

    Maybe a better way to describe it is a "palm support "?

    Bolleteri used it in his camp to teach grips as well.

    Try it....I'm not a salesman at all...in fact I don't use the wonder wedge. I simply take five pieces of mounting tape stick them together and put it on the handle. If I were a salesman I wouldn't be telling you that because wonder wedge would go out of business.

    If you don't like it rip it off and throw it in the garbage....mounting tape only costs a couple of bucks....there's not much to lose.
     
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  22. Ronaldo

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    Plus, mounting tape weighs a lot less than Sorbothane. Can recall the added weight of the Gosen Sorbothane grip.
     
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    Are those rings even legal? Seems like rubbish to me.
     
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    Fair enough. I guess I was reacting to the claims of a dramatic transformation in performance. Granted, a better fitting grip would help in many ways, but I have doubts that this wedge, by itself, would make for huge improvements in my play. I'd be afraid to try it, 'cause what if it doesn't fix everything about my game? What then? ;)
     
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    I really don't see the point in that.
     
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    Nadal uses the Wonder Wedgie
     
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  27. Ronaldo

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    Wonder where he keeps it?
     
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  28. The Dark Knight

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    Well it's not a fix all and it actually can hurt your game.

    I cant really play with a conventional grip anymore....it's weird.

    But it definitely makes a HUGE change. Whether its a good change or a bad change is for you to decide.

    Certainly trying it a few times will not ruin your game.

    But if you do try it I 100 percent guarantee you will see the difference in power.
    You will be spraying the ball over the fence as there is quite a learning curve
     
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  29. Ronaldo

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    Not sure why the Wonder Wedge ruins an eastern forehand? Can you use the other side of the grip without the appendage?
     
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  30. The Dark Knight

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    Actually yes you can....but I've never tried it.

    Might be difficult in a match.....you would have to spin the racquet to switch grips to eastern......

    Then again Federer spins his racquet in between points so it very possible.

    Very good point....I guess if you don't mind spinning the racquet the way Fed does you can choose between a conventional grip or the wedge.
     
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    I don't see that working. My hand wraps around both sides of the grip. Modifying either side would be noticeable.
    BTW I still don't buy the massive increase in power!? Yeah you may be sending the ball over the fence, but that's because the racquet face is at a different angle because of your grip.

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    I disagree w/ "over the fence" when I first used it, the balls were dying into the net b/c of the spin.

    I would also temper some of the claims of "huge" spin or power gains but would rather say it enables me to comfortably hit shots w/ "huge" spin. Without the ww or power-v grip, I felt uncomfortable w/ western/semi-west. grip esp. if using windshield wiper motions.

    The biggest gain actually was with the continental grip. It's much more stable on volleys. I also prefer serving with it.

    Replacing a regular grip to add the ww + overgrip nets 10-12g to the racquet and makes it a bit more headlight.

    Main negative is that I have to take 2-3 racquets everytime b/c I can't borrow someone else's racquet if I break a string. Of course, it also keeps people from borrowing your racquet.
     
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  33. sundaypunch

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    I can speak from experience with the Wonder Wedge (now Power V grip). It increases the size of the angled 2 and 4 bevels. This gives the continental and semi-western grips a bigger, more stable bevel. The #3 bevel gets tiny so if you use an eastern FH it probably will be a negative for you.

    I originally tried it because my daughter was having a problem with her grip rotating from conti to eastern when she served. She didn't like it at first but after a few days she got used to it. It did solve the problem of the racquet rotating in her hand. She loves it now. After using it for a couple of years now she hates hitting with a racquet that doesn't have one.

    I gave it a try as I would often use one of her racquets when we played. I also hit with a SW forehand so it was an easy transition. I really like the feel of the racquet with it.

    I have since stopped using it. Not because I didn't like it, but because it forces you to hit on the same side of the racquet for all your shots. I use textured poly (MSV Focus Hex). What I found is that the hitting side would be worn smooth and the side with the Wonder Wedge would still be rough and like new.

    I wouldn't call it a "gimmick". It really just gives you a more stable feeling for certain grips. Some may not like it. For others it really helps their confidence.
     
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    I've heard that Fed's grip is not symmetrical, but customized slightly to fit his hand.
     
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    With the Wonder Wedge, how did it effect your backhand? Hitting an Eastern Backhand grip, it seems to me like it be be a bit bulky feeling.

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    I can honestly say that more than any other stroke the wedge helped my backhand the most .

    Absolutely no downside. Wayyyy more power, more control, topspin an slice all powered up immensely on the backhand side.

    The forehand .....bit of a different story. The forehand was very hard to get used to . It took me a very long time . About 6 months .

    They should in my opinion change the name to "power palm arch support" or something . Or "the custom grip"......

    There is some customization with the wedge.....you have to cut it down to fit your palm . So there is a bit of tinkering here.

    As another poster said.....yes Federer has a custom grip.....all the pros do. This is a poor mans custom grip.

    Bosworth did the same thing for Navratilova . He made a custom grip to support the exact shape of her palm. She says she can now hit a one handed topspin down the line which she was never able to do before thanks to the custom grip.

    The wedge simply supports the palm of your hand. I think the molding tape I suggested is even better than the wedge because you can customize to fit your palm better than the rubber wonder wedge.

    Also you can make it as thin or thick as you want. I use five pieces. But you can use just a couple of pieces and work your way up.

    I wish I had thought of the molding tape to begin with....the wedge was too thick and the learning curve is very long . It took me a while to get used to.

    Plus everyone's palm is different and some may need thicker and others thinner.

    Palms are like your feet they come in all different shapes and sizes . The wedge that is sold online is not the right fit for Everyone. With molding tape you can customize .
     
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    By the way.....if you really want to do this the right way you should go to someone like Roman Prokes in NY or Bosworth in Florida.

    They will take a mold of your hand and custom for a grip for your playing style.

    You will not believe what a difference your grip makes in your game.

    I believe the grip is actually far more important than the strings you use or the racquet you choose.

    The angle and the strength of your grip is the beginning of everything . If your grip is not at the right angle or not strong enough to support then your game will be greatly affected.

    Hours and hours are spent on the boards about string and racquets. But no one talks about the grip....which is far far more important.

    If you don't believe me just try it. You will be blown away by the difference it makes. It may not be a "good" difference but you will automatically see a gigantic difference in the way you hit the ball. You will realize how important the shape of your grip is on the very first hit.
     
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    I am a little unorthodox. I use a semi-western FH and extreme eastern 1HBH. I am basically leaving my knuckle on the #4 bevel but just moving it a bit toward a full western FH when I hit a BH. That's what I meant about always hitting on the same side of the racquet.

    Most people would probably hit their FH on one side of the racquet then rotate their hand counter-clockwise up to the #1 bevel for and eastern BH.

    Either way, it doesn't feel bulky. It definitely will feel strange to you though when you first try it.
     
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  39. The Dark Knight

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    I tried the gripyou.....hated it !
     
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    I do agree with you on the wonder wedge regarding eastern FH. Do you add 5 pcs of mounting tape to bevels 2 & 4? How does it affect your eastern FH?

    Wonder Wedge customer service is excellent BTW but it wasn't for me unfortunately!
     
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    No just bevel 3.

    How does it affect my eastern forehand ? It's strange.....since the bevel is much smaller with the mounting tape you hit the ball at a completely different angle than normally

    I would say your eastern become a mix of continental and eastern. Basically if you use an eastern then I don't think this gadget is for you.

    I use an eastern with it sometimes and I have become accustomed to it.....mainly however I use semi western for groundies and continetal for serve and volley.
     
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    Do you cut the tape at an angle? Also do you add your regular grip or just an over grip? Thanks for sharing!
     
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  43. The Dark Knight

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    I make the top two pieces of tape very slightly longer than the rest.

    Then I put tounagrip over it and it pushes down the top of the 5 pieces of tape to form the angle.
     
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  44. Tim Tennis

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    Thanks for your interest

    Great discussion, thanks for all the imput. I will try to answer most of the questions.

    By the way, I am Ed, inventor, owner of the Power V Grips so we will see how far this goes.

    I sincerely believe the PVG's/Wonder Wedge enhance all the grips with increased leverage and traction. Granted the original Power V Grip will feel very strange at first for most people. The Power V Grip II is not nearly as dramatic but offers a lot of the same benefits. Don't know where you got that we sold Western grips.

    Best regards,

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    Decoration Yikes!

    Andyroo, it is very useful and beneficial to a lot of players, go to the testimonial page. I get testimonials all the time. I quit putting them up because most visitors don't even go to the testimonial page.

    http://www.tennisgeometrics.com/testimonials_tennis.html

    Best regards,

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    Hello, anybody home?

    NickJ, do you even have a forehand?

    Best regards,

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    Appreciate the comments

    I will have to check out the "gripyou." I have not seen it yet.

    People have told me they use tape, popsicle sticks, whatever. Great, build up bevel 3 any way you can. This will change the contact points on the handle increasing the leverage, and provide a frame of reference for finding "all the grips" that I just don't think you get with a regular shaped handle.

    I don't think either of the PVG's ruin the EF but the larger one, the original PVG does push the knuckle on the base of your index finger away from the handle making it feel strange.

    Appreciate your comments.

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    excellent

    Good question. In my opinion the more rectangular handles are not that benficial for the SW or the Cont. grip but are great if you prefer the EF grip. The PVG's on these handles give the SW and the Cont. grip the bevel size they deserve.

    Best regards,

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  49. Tim Tennis

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    Commission? You can't be serious

    Well maybe he did not say it just right but I can assure you he does not get a sales commission. LOL

    More power? Well, when the racquet does not twist so much in your hand you will transfer more energy to the ball. This translates to more spin and action.

    Best regards,

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    Good comment

    Excellent, major concern for high performance players. Got questions all the time but once the got it never heard about any problem.

    Best regards,

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