Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by Topspinner271, Jun 25, 2013.
OP in the video reminds me of raonic. the way he moves and looks too.
Whoops, I posted in the wrong thread... Topspinner271, please edit your post to delete the quote that has the match result in it please...
This make me so happy. I love raonic.
Have you compared your vids in this thread compared to your vids in the other thread? Night and day.
Are you saying they are very different? I know they are, and it was a mistake for me to upload a bad video up first.
Umm he is not 4.5/5.0
His form needs a lot of work. His body often moves throughout a shot. He bends over and breaks his posture instead of bending with his lower body. A lot of arms in these shots, I wouldnt be surprised to if he felt sore afterwards. He needs to steady out his arms and rely more on shoulder rotation.
Umm he is 4.5-5.0. He has an LTA rating of 5.2 (you can't self-rate in Britain; you have to earn the rating). That rating translates to a high USTA 4.5. The best you can claim is that I overrated him by a quarter of an NTRP point. In essence, I was almost perfectly on, as opposed to those who rated him 3.5. Watch the video again. He's got flaws in his technique, but so does everyone else. I judged him based on his ability to rally 30ish balls in a row without missing or pushing. No one below the 4.5 level is capable of doing that.
This was my problem, I just watched like 6 shots
Pusher 3.0's can rally 100 balls.
To really play 4.5, you need to hit against real balls, not fluff feeds 7' higher than the net, then he hits 7' above the net, for a ball speed of maybe 35 mph, good enough for 3.5.
His other vid shows he can hit a solid ball, but this one shows bad form hitting full balls.
No pusher 3.0 can rally 100 balls. 20 maybe (30 if lucky), but the key word is "pusher." This kid isn't hitting hard, but he isn't pushing either. Also, his shots were not going 35 mph. 35 mph is probably the slowest you can hit a ball and get it over the net. He was taking full swings, hitting the ball maybe 55-60ish.
5.2 is low 4.5 on the comparison table. That could be a high 4.0 based on how they've tweaked the USTA rankings the last few years. His newer videos show a much better player than the original video, and his serve and return are better than I would have expected based on the first video. I can believe he would be competitive at 4.5.
You're pretty good man, unique form but it works
Not to get into a **** measuring contest, but 3.5 is a stretch in that video. The dude in white is far from a 3.5. Guy in gray maybe
Yeah, swing looks pretty good, but tennis is easy when you can SEE THE BALL...when you are truly ready to master the game of tennis, it's time to break out the blindfold. Post that video and then we'll talk.
I hope you are for real
Pretty sure he is full troll.
Perhaps no-one told him, you never go full troll.
nope we wouldn't want that!
Tennis looks good to me. Video, however, is much too shaky. Very annoying. Either use a tripod or some other method of mounting the camera, and center it behind you as high as possible. Or, have the person holding the camera stand behind you as far as the back wall or fence permits, centered, and hold the camera about head high and very still. This will make for a much better video.
Yes, from the look of your strokes and movement, I think you'd beat those two easily. With regard to my limited experience, they're not playing 3.5 tennis. They would be 3.0 (the guy in white maybe 2.5) in my league, which uses NTRP-based rating system, but is not USTA.
I would guess that your strokes and movement, and thus competitive level, would put you in a higher NTRP-based category.
Your tennis looks good to me. However, per my previous post, please position camera centered and behind you if possible.
My favorite post in this thread so far.
We haven't seen your volley or serve or overhead. I'd say you lack stability on easy balls. There's no need to jump around so much. Like somebody already said: you expand lots of energy unnecessarily and produce too many mishits. Look at Federer, his upper-body is extremely stable throughout his shots. On the BH you seem to hit the ball too close to your body. You should try to make contact with the ball further away and further to your left. Extend the follow-through.
Ifnyou wantnyou can watch.my other videos ? Innother thread serves and returns.
What we need it match play. Keep in mind to play higher NTRP people, you need better mental game too. Rallying doesn't affect your mental game, playing does. But anyways you should really put the camera in the back (like TomT suggested) so we have a better view on how fast the ball is going, how high the ball is going, what balls are going out etc. I'm not criticizing you, I'm just saying, we can't judge without matchplay and a better angle of you. Who knows. You might play better with your "jumpy" strokes during a match compared to most of the people critiquing you cause they're all internet tennis gurus who know a lot about the technical stuff on tennis but actually don't know how to implement it in their game... (I'm saying most, not all. There are some of you that I have respect for). But anyways, aside from my little rant, the main point is MATCHPLAY.
Everyone needs to see the other video OP posted.
From this one, a consistent 3.5 hitting slow easy balls vs slow easy feeds.
From the OTHER video, a real 4-4.5 player who can handle pace and dish out some pace.
It's just unfortunate OP posted this video first for us to see. Had he posted his other video, our rankings for him would be much higher.
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