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  1. mikeler

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    Hmm, sounds like it is worth a try. I just bought the leather grips at the beginning of the year and they are not cheap Then again, neither is shoulder surgery...
     
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    PP - thought i read in one of your post that u got a Prestige pro stock. if so is it a mid and do u have the specs?
     
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    Yes it is a mid.

    346 strung with damp and OG. Grip is leather Head Calfskin
    SW is 320
    Balance is around 9 points HL.

    Definitely flexes different then the retail and has incredible pocketing. Feels more muted then the retail due to silicone in the handle. Does not have the brassy feel of the retail, but they both have the satisfying sweetspot feel that we know and love.

    Awesome racquet..really fun to play with. I use it as my main stick and the retail as the backup.
     
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    Hi guys :) We are finally back in Orlando :) Best regards from Wawrinka and me! ;)

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  5. EP1998

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    You have a pure storm and shoulder issue?

    I had a problem for a long time with my shoulder. Prior to that I never had a shoulder injury and I've been playing tennis since I was pre-kindergarten. Played with a PST original. I also played with the regular GT. It's a long story but I did eventually ditch the racquet and the shoulder problem went away (I also went to rehab for awhile). I was never sure it was the racquet - there were a lot of other variables - however - I ran into someone at a tennis event and she happened to have the same injury I had and was playing with the same racquet. Then, just last weekend, I broke all of the strings on my other racquets so I played a couple of games with an old Babolat and the pain came back immediately. I am not one to blame equipment but it is worth looking into it. I really liked the racquet so it was hard to switch plus I was pretty loyal to Babolat for their support of women's tennis.
     
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    not sure but its more than what you had for Frank lol. It's probably on their website.
     
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    Hey Bridget, I am going to try out Frank since he is cheap and then try Angie if I want more lessons. I figure why not do both. I remember telling you about Danny, and he is the guy I am bummed that can't teach. He was pretty much the exact coach I was looking for.
     
  8. bad_call

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    thanks. so pro specs are same as retail. thought they would be different.
     
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    Bob - first time seeing you with a hat. Stan needs to lay off the desserts. ;)
     
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    It's lighter, my retail is 354 with og and damp, and no leather grip..its customized basically, so I could have it setup however I want. So far I like the slightly lighter setup. Balance is also a little more headlight, and swingweight is slightly higher, as my retail measured at 317 on the Bab SW measurer.

    What is also definitley different is the layup. More flex in the head then the retail.
     
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    what pj does the pro have (mg, yt, etc) ?
     
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    Youtek PJ. Model is TGK 237.3 .

    I will let you hit with it next time I see and I am pretty sure you will feel the differences I am talking about. It is a really high quality racquet, but I still love my retail one as well. Prestige line is awesome.
     
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    thanks. did you check out the bosworth customization link?
    http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/sports/2011/03/10/oc.custom.rackets.tennis.cnn
     
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    Just watched it. Awesome link. Exactly like he is saying, the layup truly changes the feel of the racquet. I think the TGK makes the game a little easier for me as long as I am playing sound tennis. The way it flexes gives me more power, but the same amount of control as the retail.

    Pretty sweet when he pulled out Agassis Donnay in that video.
     
  15. mikeler

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    I used it for a year without problems. I've also gotten shoulder problems before with light rackets, so I'm not 100% sure it is the racket. I'm about at 95% healed. My game is much more sensitive to strings than rackets so I'm not opposed to switching sticks if it will fix the problem. Did you have extra weight on your racket or did you play with the stock version?
     
  16. coyfish

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    What part of your shoulder bothers your mikeler? I have rotator cuff damage after dislocating my shoulder playing soccer and again snowboarding. The impact with the ball doesn't hurt me at all which seems to be the source of your pain. It is the transferring of torque from my lower body through my shoulder that kills. When I stain it I can't twist at all. My LM Radical (light frame) bothered me because it forces you to do a lot of the work. My prestige is not heavy by any means but it allows me to get really loose and let the racquet mass swing.

    I used to really focus on trophy pose like roddick on my serves but lately I changed to a more horizontal motion. Relatively subtle change on my backswing and I have been cranking serves with no pain at all. It really is amazing considering the years with shoulder issues. Tweaking the serve is hard but have you given that a try?


    And welcome back bob / goran. Beautiful weather and good tennis! I hope fed lasts another year so I can watch him play as himself at next years SE open.
     
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    Bob/Goran share some tales of Miami with us when you can please.
     
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    If you reach back and try and grab your armpit from behind (gross I know), it is the long muscle connecting your back to your shoulder.
     
  19. It's hard to tell that its really Bob and Goran. Desguised tennis players.
     
  20. EP1998

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    I played a stock version. Usually with polys. I have used harsh strings for a long time though. I started using lux when it came out and before that I used kevlar/syn hybrid. It took about a year for my shoulder problems to start too now that I think about it. I still dont know if it was totally the racquet - maybe years of harsh strings, serve technique (which got worse as the shoulder pain increased, you find yourself flinching without realizing it) playing a groundstroke game based on heavy trajectory, getting older - who knows. I am not playing as much now though as I was then so there's yet another variable. Still, you may want to try something else and see what happens.
     
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    I have a similar issue. My shoulder is unstable so I have to be really careful on serves to not reach out of the shoulder. i have a friend who specializes in serving for professionals and he looked at my serve (helps to have friends like that lol) and said that was the source of my problems. i changed my motion to try to break the habit and I do a lot of shoulder strengthening to try to keep it in place. It's hard though because my tosses arent as accurate as they used to be, and I have a high toss. I have also noticed that if I really use my core its less of a problem. Which is easier said than done.
     
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    I'm trying to rein in my high toss because it is more comfortable hitting the lower toss. I figured out last night that my grip was not good. I was going way too far towards the Edberg/Djokovic grip and need to get back to a more neutral grip. That helped quite a bit. I was serving great last night but my shoulder is slightly sore this morning. Before switching rackets, I'm going to take the lead tape off and put a light synthetic grip on. If it still hurts, I'll ditch the rackets.
     
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    High toss = not good for tennis player in general. There are exceptions but in general high toss in not good for any tennis player much less one with shoulder problems
     
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    Achtung Achtung two beached wales in Miami...HAHAHA
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    So photos add 20 lbs right :)
     
  25. bad_call

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    think so...this player already 20+ over so pics might look 40 or so. :)
     
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    Serving with the eastern grip destroyed my wrist. I still hurt from that and it was 3 weeks ago. Any 7 to 10 spin right now is not happening from me for a few more weeks.

    As for shoulder, I am working on that effortless serve where you just get the chain moving and let the racquet do the work.I feel like that is the healthiest way to go.
     
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    I think I'll start first by taking the lead tape off since it is cheapest and will make my racket more head light. Next I'll take off the leather grips and put synthetic grips on. Last, I sell the rackets and start a demo program.
     
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    Another option is to see if Jeff has any Pure Storm Ltds. Apparently they are super flexy and feel incredible, just more low powered.
     
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    He is trying to sell me his Kneissels at the moment!
     
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    Yes thats another thing I did. I lowered my toss a big which really eases the stress. I use very little lower body and I have been serving harder than ever. Had to drop the attitude that legs / core are vital for power. To unlock the last 10-15% you need your whole body but basic technique / looseness can take you farther than you will ever need.
     
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    funny thing is i think i posted in this thread few years ago that i sold my PST non gt because i found them jarring on the arm. soft but jarring on off center hits. gt version is 100 times worse for my arm its stiff as hell. i dropped ltd after 5 hits same with pst.

    IMHO look for c10 or volkl pb mid if you want comfort or of course very hard to find pt57/630.

    i have yet to find softer racket on off center hits. they all play good if you hit it in the sweet spot trouble is with us amateurs we miss hit it on a serve or forehand and 99.9% of the rackets out there will transfer that to your shoulder.

    Try my pt630 or gators c10 and you will see...
     
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    Goran you are right. I was nailing the sweet spot pretty regular with my psgt, but I remember missing pretty bad one day, and boy did it vibrate like crazy. Once that happened, I started thinking about it, so of course it happened more frequent. Still was a real nice stick except when that happened.

    the volkl is probably great. I just found a PC600 on the bay for a great price, so I am sticking with the prestige mids so far. They don't seem to hurt much at all on off center hits, even high contact balls. They just don't feel as perfect as when you hit the sweet spot. I am sure the PC600 will just be even more comfortable.
     
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    The C10 feels like a noodle!
     
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    suggest flex > 60 and < 67. don't think too flexy works for you (or me). exceptions exist like the dunlop bio 200 lite which TW has at 57. it doesn't feel like 57 and hits pretty nice.
     
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  35. I thimk coyfish has the right idea about shoulder issues and serving, but I also think that if you find a racquet that works best for you , stay with it because the more you get to know the frame, the more consistant you will be and the less likely you will have as many shoulder issues.
     
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    Try pt630 or pc600 or pb 10 mid or yt radical with lead they are all even flexier than c10 but don't let that discourage you as they all flex at a different spot so you might not like certain flexpoint while the other flexpoints will fit you like a glove. PB mid 10 for example is very flexi but has a solid hoop kind of like pc600 while pt630 is so unique that its hard to describe since it flexes so uniformly that its perfect.

    YT Prestige MP is also a good choice with a right string. It stiffer that the one mentioned above but great platform for customizing and IMHO best mold in the world. Just everything about that mold is great which is same as my fav pt630.
     
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    You are absol.right but that's hard for racketoholics like me :)
     
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    Thanks for the all the info guys. I've never been a big racket switcher, just strings. :)
     
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    reminds me of...
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  40. Thats funny Goran, But I know which racquet you like the best.:)
     
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    you mean the only racquet he said he could play with when not hitting regularly?
     
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    How is everyone's tennis progressing today?
     
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    Just hit for 3 hours. It is HOT outside ..wow. Glad I wore sunscreen.
     
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    Well played.
     
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    need to drive a few hours north or south to get out of this rain band. too much accumulation to dry out by tomorrow. :(
     
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    I am watching Tomas vs Rafa and I am holding Tomas' racquet in my hand :D Cannot wait to give it a test-drive tomorrow :D
     
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    hope the courts dry quickly tomorrow...so much rain. so Bob's got a new stick. :)
     
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    loooooooooooooooooooooool! my wife said the same thing! :D
     
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    Well had the honor of passing by the entrance of the SE open today but that was about it :(. My dad has box tickets for this weekend and I have a stupid test tomorrow. I should just screw medicine and go biomed engineering. That field seems so cool and I wont have to give up my life!
     
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    "Don't worry about nothing, every little thing is gonna be alright" :)
     

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