Tennis Warehouse-Central Florida Chapter (Greater Orlando Area)

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  1. Uvijek Argen

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    The last 2 nights was almost unplayable in my area with the bugs. First, they hare HUGE!!, and second, their were so many. Literary I was waiting reciving serve and in the meanwhile I was feeling the bugs landing in my head, neck and back like kamikaze's.

    Anybody else played in the night lately?
     
  2. coyfish

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    worse than UCF? Those beetles are huge and juicy. Drives me crazy trying to not step on them.
     
  3. Uvijek Argen

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    Yeah Coyfish, about 5 times more that what we saw in UCF(remember, I live in the Saint Cloud jungle), in one moment I even step in one in the middle of a game and slip a little bit from their inside juice.:twisted:
     
  4. lodeen

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    Yum, makes me hungry!
     
  5. dgoran

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    Hey UA I was asking about you the other day since I finally was free to play last Friday.

    Are you working full time now?
    Any Fridays you will have off to join us?

    -G
     
  6. mikeler

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    Playing the Gator tomorrow, hopefully my shoulder behaves or it could get ugly. Luckily there is not a bug problem at OTC. Where I grew up was even smaller than St. Cloud and summer nights were like the plague!
     
  7. Uvijek Argen

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    Yak!!



    Hey dgoran!, I will go this Friday after work at 5pm. Hopefully you will be there.


    Yesterday it remind me one of the part of the movie The Exorcist.
    Good luck in your match.
     
  8. mikeler

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    Almost tennis time today, c'mon clock tick faster...
     
  9. coyfish

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    discovered how to hit a kick serve today lol. Never ceases to amaze me the little changes that can revolutionize a shot. Have to practice them a bit though. I had the right motion but I did not drop my racquet head far enough on the backswing. You basically have to smack yourself in the back.
     
  10. bad_call

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    played tonite on clay. used to play decent on that stuff in my younger days but nowadays i play so much better on hard courts. great workout tho so no complaints...but got a muscle pain in my back. :( just when things are clicking too...
     
  11. BobFL

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    Good job Kev!! :) Btw, you should do that every time regardless of a serve you are executing. The difference is in the angle you 'attack' the ball at.
     
  12. dgoran

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    Serve is so personal because it depends on the extent your arm ligaments, tendons etc will allow your arm to extend, shoulder to rotate wrist to rotate etc... some people have greater flexibility/shoulder wrist rotation some less.

    What I wanted to say is try experimenting with different swing paths and different racket grips. Someone will have harder time hitting serve with a frying pan grip (Raonic grip) on the serve while some will need exactly that in order for arm to feel comfortable on the follow through the hitting/brushing zone.

    Also try relaxing your arm completely through the swing (not as easy as it sounds) almost like you are swinging a sack of potatoes from your back over your shoulder to the front
     
  13. mikeler

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    I can say this, the twist serve is not getting any easier to hit as I age especially the one in the deuce court.
     
  14. BobFL

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    And this would be one of my personal revelations when it comes to serving. Semi-firm grip + cooked spaghetti arm = a lot more pace, spin, accuracy. Too bad I cannot execute that all the time and 'at will'...
     
  15. mikeler

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    I think the Gator is bringing the El Cheapo Penn balls today. :) Anyone else hate those?
     
  16. BobFL

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    I totally hate cheap Penns! The upper echelon of their balls is really good tho (atp, propenns etc...).
     
  17. The more I read Goran's explanation of a well executed serve the hungrier I get. Frying pans and potatoes= burgers and fries to me. Good way to remember hahahhaha
     
  18. dgoran

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    HAHAHA you are SERVED Sir...

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    Its starting...two of my faves:
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  20. dgoran

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    Yeah funny how simple it sounds but its pretty hard to achieve.

    My theory is that since we amateurs usually do not practice our serve since we were 3 yrs old we do not have the path of the racket down to the same path every time so we compensate and we use our muscles to guide racket through the path or move it ever so slightly into the path we intended which require muscle spasm thus ending up in slower serve or muscle pains in the extreme condition
     
  21. mikeler

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    Was very windy last night but I thought the Gator and I handled it fairly well. Props to Bad_Call on the B5E, I'm playing so well with it that I think my string testing days are numbered.
     
  22. dgoran

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    Hey Mikeler I agree on the wind It toppled over the bench on the court next to us.

    Despite the wind my dear Brazillian buddy (that flew in to town unexpectedly) and I had one of those epic matches that Mikeler always talks about.

    I lost in 2 tie breakers and I did not mind at all...
    I had soo much fun that on a few occasions we almost lost breath due to laughter not because we are out of shape...altough we are out of shape too :)

    Is this possible I had fun on clay (err Har(d)Tru BTW awesome courts down at the Marriott on Int Drive. )

    Its 'tru' pun intended I think I am getting over my "Clayhate" once I got over the facts that:

    1) winners are few and far in between
    2) flat serve is totally a non factor
    3) Movement is everything
    4) and Yes bad bounces are OK and it will happen on my end and on his end so "GET OVER IT" or like Nadal puts it "Its the same for him, NO..."

    HarTru might be easy on the joints but certainly not muscles :)...and patience like Bad_Call famously put it.

    One little question re high kick bounces for you Clay lovers that have extensive experience on this stuff:

    Was it just that one court that we were playing on that had abnormally high bounces or is it all HarTru that behaves that way. I am not kidding kick or top spin shots were above my head and I am not that small. I dont remember downtown hartru being like that is it...?

    -G
     
  23. Power Player

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    Hartru makes life difficult when you want to pound winners. I hated the gamestyle, but I accepted that I have to use more spin and possibly a bigger racquet on that surface, but I am not sure yet. I did doubles on hartru last week..did not want to..i hate har tru and doubles, but it was a nice learning experience. I just fired off heavy topspin real deep into the court and looked for a ball to attack. It took some patience, but I just accepted it.

    Still not nearly as fun as hardcourt..I dont care what anybody says. I grew up on hardcourt and it is just the best way to play tennis if you like to bang. But since tournies are on clay, and you need to be good on every surface, I have accepted the fact that I need to get better on it.

    I got handed a Donnay stick when I got my prestiges regripped..these things are nasty nasty..wow..kind of liek a prestige and a pro staff made for a more Semi western grip style. Mikeler, I'd say if your arm bugs you anymore, you'd probably want one of the high 11 ouncers on your short list.
     
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    looks like it will rain this afternoon :eek::-x:(:?
     
  25. ssgator80

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    Mikeler took me out last night. He had an answer for all my shots. It must be his special balls. Next time we are playing with Penns
     
  26. mikeler

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    C'mon they were not even the Prince balls, just the Dunrocks!
     
  27. mikeler

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    Scattered showers at the moment.
     
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    For me, the hardest part about Har-Tru was movement. I was constantly getting wrong footed and literally falling down on the court for the first year I played. Once I learned how to slide, I liked it better because the slide absorbs all the stopping momentum in your body. My tazmanian devil body type appreciates it.

    As for bounces, I think a lot of it is conditions. On hot days, the ball tends to bounce higher. When the har-tru is very dry, it jumps up more. Balls matter too. If you use Penns, you'll be lucky if the ball bounces above your knees. Use Princes and you may hit a kick serve over the fence. I've played on hard courts before where the bounce seemed real high. Naturally, if you play an opponent that hits a heavy ball, that will effect things too.
     
  29. Power Player

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    I am still planning on some Frank lessons real soon and I think I am going to have him show me proper footwork on clay. I agree that if I learn to slide properly so I can set up like I do on a HC, I would probably enjoy the experience a lot more, and be better. I also have taken some nasty spills on the clay and some of it is just me overunning a ball instead of sliding into it.

    One thing about clay that I will never get over is how much quieter the courts are. I like to hear loud cracks bouncing off cement, and the clay is alot duller of a sound. Nitpicky, but you guys probably know what I mean.
     
  30. BobFL

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    Het DoubleP, make sure you tell him to teach you Spanish slide not American slide! SS = slide and hit; AS = hit and slide
     
  31. BobFL

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    Guys are we still set for 4PM? It don't look (copyright Charles Barkley :)) that bad here...
     
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    Bob, what about the PP slide, in which I almost crash into the net and rip my racquet hand in half? I may be able to make some serious cash (and then lose it all in lawsuits) teaching people that move ;)
     
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    "PP slide"? Sounds good! :D
     
  34. mikeler

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    The old mikeler slide consisted of falling on my back or scraping my knee. Getting clay out of a wound is no fun.

    Speaking of that, I was chatting with a buddy of mine today from high school. His first clay tournament, he busted up his knee on a bad fall during a junior tournament. As a good high school friend, I did what you would expect and proceeded to laugh at him. Karma got me later when I skinned a knee during my match and there he was roaring in laughter at me. Yeah, I deserved that one. :)
     
  35. ssgator80

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    Team won a league match this afternoon at OTC. I won at singles.
     
  36. mikeler

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    Congrats on the win. I play your captain tomorrow.
     
  37. dgoran

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    ^^^^
    Hey guys is that some singles league on hartru? or a tourney?

    I had a revelation the other night that EVERY league should be played on hartru or clay if avail. so that cheating can be completely eliminated since if you hit the line its quite obvious and quite possibly point over due to nature of hartru line bounce.

    I will probably not play another league on hard courts since I realized how much free and better I play if I dont have to worry about if the "other" guy will allow me to hit lines or not.

    I naturally go for lines a lot and I hit a lot of them believe it or not and this automatically places me at a disadvantage in league matches since 99.9 % of the time they call it out if I hit a line. Even if they dont I am aware that they might since it happens to me so often that I cannot swing freely.

    So my question is is there a league played on hartru in OTC?
     
  38. coyfish

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    wanting to play on clay to hit more lines :). Thats an oxymoron
     
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    hey what time tomorrow guys?
     
  40. BobFL

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    We said 2PM but I won't be able to be there before 3:15/30PM...
     
  41. DGoran, That's what I dislike about hard court league play. There's always a few who will lie just to make it to the finals. It happened to me at Gatlin a few times. Wish there were a good clay/chartru league somewhere to keep the honest person; "Honest"
     
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    The team I play for is out of OTC. The league has 4 teams total. Two from Sanlando and one from the Winter Park Racquet Club. So we play on both hard and clay. I guess I have been lucky and have not had any issues with line calls.
     
  43. coyfish

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    that works better for me. I will be there at 3
     
  44. Uvijek Argen

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    The weather feels great, see you guys at BO this afternoon.
     
  45. mikeler

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    Looks like a hot week ahead. That is good shoulder weather for this player.
     
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    It doesnt eliminate cheating unfortunately. A true hook - and there are plenty of them out there - will find another mark that happens to be out and circle that. The best thing to do with these types when they hook you is to tell them that if they hook you again, you'll hook them three times. And do it!
     
  47. coyfish

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    Very true but I think he meant the ball bounce rather than the mark. If a well struck ball hits the line its going to skid hard or take a weird bounce. Usually that's point over and there is no denying that the ball hit the line. So his line painting will be rewarded on clay.
     
  48. mikeler

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    Played last night with those crazy thunderstorms lingering off just to our east. Man that wind was coming from all directions, not the most fun conditions.
     
  49. bad_call

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    ^ hope it doesn't happen like that on tonite's match.
     
  50. mikeler

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    I was missing the B5E last night. C'mon package, GET HERE already!
     

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