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  1. Tennis16

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    Mikeler,
    I was playing the Pure Drive, and really loved that racket. I tried everything to make it work. But elbow pain was too much. Starting using my friends Head PT 280, and never felt any pain again. The Pt 280 is like an older version of the Prestige, but it is made in Austria and is 100% graphite.

    Specs are;
    27 in. length
    98 in head
    balance 6 pts headlight
    Swingweight 330
    Static weight 12.1 oz
    Flex 59

    Honestly, I never thought I would be able to handle a racket that heavy. But it is worth the adjustment. Good luck.
     
  2. ssgator80

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    Did someone recommend her? My wife, who never has played, just got a shot for elbow issues - Maybe I can send her there.
    Bulldogs are not my favorite animal, in fact, we like to kick the Bulldogs yearly.
     
  3. Mike Cottrill

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    Try some head racquets. Start with radical OS. Prob one of the better sticks out there for the arm.
    Bab, frames.. stiff.. IMO, not so good for the arm.

    Radical line: Old models are fine and much cheaper:
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Head_MicroGEL_Radical_Oversize/descpageRCHEAD-MGRADO.html
    or
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Head_Liquidmetal_Radical_Oversize/descpageRCHEAD-LMRADO.html

    I played with the TI rad OS for years, though I had them weighted. I prefer the prestige line, but more expensive.


    Try the prince as well:
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage-GROMS.html
    For the most part I no longer like prince frames. To much marketing crap, but the old frames still have it.



    Since you are an engineer, you might like this site. Some have poked holes in some of the formulas, but for the most part there is good data here:
    http://www.racquetresearch.com/


     
  4. coyfish

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    I actually have an old Ti. Radical OS (agassi used it for a while) sitting at my parents home. Was my first racquet but I moved on to the MP LM radical I use now. I have been trying to sell it on these boards. They are pretty rare nowadays but you are more than welcome to borrow it and test it out. No strings on it so you would have to string it.
     
  5. bad_call

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    need an "athletically" correct name...no gator opponents. :)
     
  6. mikeler

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    Thanks for the offer, but I'd rather try something that I can get a replacement on for a few years.
     
  7. mikeler

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    I will look into that one.
     
  8. mikeler

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    I have been looking at the Liquidmetal sticks. I've been a Prince guy for a long time but at this point I just want this elbow pain to go away.
     
  9. mikeler

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    The person you got into an argument with during a Bay Hill doubles match recommended her as does Frankie Seems like she sees a lot of people from OTC. I'd say yesterday, if I tried to hit a serve the pain index was an 8 out of 10. Today it is more like a 5 out of 10. Is her problem tennis elbow or something else?
     
  10. ssgator80

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    No agrument at Bay Hill - just a difference of opinion settle very nicely - although he hasnt played with us since. My wife's doctor calls it tennis elbow.

    You should really hit with my racquet. It has a reputation of being very arm friendly with quite a bit of flex - but that is not why I use it. I like the solid feel, weight over 12, and head light.
     
  11. mikeler

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    What stick is it? I checked out this one last night that looked pretty good:

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage-POZPT.html#spec

    The specs don't match up with another site out there though. TT's specs are:

    Midplus Specs
    Head Size:
    100 sq. in. / 645 sq. cm.
    Length: 27 inches / 69 cm
    Strung Weight: 12.1oz / 343g
    Balance: 7pts Head Light
    Swingweight: 324
    Stiffness: 65
    Beam Width: 18-20-18 mm Tapered Beam
    Composition: Carbon Wave Matrix Constructions
    Power Level: Low
    Swing Speed: Fast
    Grip Type: DuraPro+
    String Pattern:
    18 Mains / 20 Crosses
    Mains skip: 8T,10T,8H,10H
    Two Piece
    No shared holes
    String Tension: 53-63 pounds


    Another site lists the specs as:

    Weight: 11.7 Ounces (unstrung) / 12.2 Ounces (strung)
    Length: 27 Inches
    Tension: 53-63 Lbs.
    String Pattern: 18M x 20C
    Headsize: 100 in.²
    Beam Width: 18/20/18, Tapered Beam
    Balance Point: 32.0cm. / 12.6in.
    Balance: Head Light
    Flex (RDC): 66
    Composition: Carbon Wave Matrix™
    Swing Weight: 330
    Power Level: Low-Medium
    Swing Type: Moderate - Fast & Long
    Grip: DuraPro+
    Technology: Ozone, O-Port


    This is from the Prince website:

    Length: 27.0''
    Headsize: 100 sq in
    Cross Section: 18-20-18mm
    Weight: 11.6oz/328g unstrung
    Balance: 12.2 in/31.0 cm, Head Light
    Grip: DuraPro+
    Rec. Strings: Recoil 16
    Power Level: 800
    Swing Weight: 300
    String Pattern: 18 x 20
     
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  12. mikeler

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    It also disturbs me that all of them get the string count incorrect unless they all have the wrong picture!
     
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    I played doubles ping pong (left handed of course) for 45 minutes during my lunch break today and it wore me out!
     
  14. ssgator80

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    Volkl C10 pro- I just look at the specs and its very similar to that first Prince
     
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    Yes, those are the kind of specs I'm looking for. The price is about $30 higher than the Prince. For some reason those O-ports always suck me in...
     
  16. ssgator80

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    Arent the O-ports a pain to string? I bought my two racquets used. I keep looking to pick up another.
     
  17. mikeler

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    They are a pain on the first few crosses if you don't have a good brake (like me). I would probably spring for
    a starting clamp and use the 50/50 method like Irvin.
     
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  18. bad_call

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    have looked at that one as well but either the comments or some other data turned me away from it. stiffness is a little bit higher.
     
  19. mikeler

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    What are you using now?
     
  20. bad_call

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    using the MG Prestige Pro. reasonably comfortable and nice touch. maybe look at the MG Rad line. they are discounted, have more flex (softer) and a larger headsize if i'm not mistaken.
     
  21. mikeler

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    What a wealth of knowledge there is just in our little corner of the country!
     
  22. Power Player

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    I cant say enough about the youtek radicals.Very arm friendly. You may like the new prestiges a lot too. They are getting solid reviews.
     
  23. mikeler

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    I always see good reviews on it but it is only slightly head light. I'd rather not go the lead tape route unless I have to.
     
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    In electrostimulation therapy at the moment. I'm able to tolerate a higher amount than last time. It makes my fingers twitch from time to time.

    I'd say my pain has been cut in half by the first treatment. Hopefully it gets cut in half again after this one! I'm definitely leaning towards buying those Prince sticks I mentioned earlier.
     
  25. bad_call

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    mikeler - go for it...i mean the Prince sticks. u can always sell them if they don't work out...but let me have a hit with them. :)
     
  26. mikeler

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    On Monday before my treatment, I'd say my elbow pain was an 8. Yesterday it was about a 4 before the treatment. This morning, I'd call it a 3. Once I get down to a pain index of 1, I'll pull the trigger and buy the rackets. If I buy them now, I know myself. I'll be tempted to get out there!

    Playing some more doubles ping pong at lunch today. It is helping me through my tennis sabbatical.
     
  27. Power Player

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    I am still sick, but I went out to hit a little and sweat some of it out. I felt like I had not played in months..lol..it was funny. Took me 30 minutes to get the timing back and then I was alright.
     
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    When I took 3 weeks off in September, it took me a month to get my timing back. I don't do well with extended breaks.
     
  29. Power Player

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    How much did you spend on your stringing machine and any extras required like clamps? I am just wondering because I am considering buying one in a few months. I am not sure how good I will bet at it, but I feel like it could save me a lot of money. It seems kind of compex to me right now, so I doubt I'd want to drop too much money into it, but I also want something that I know I can get a great string job out of so I am confident when I hit.
     
  30. hollywood9826

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    You can get a good job out of anything. If you pull tension, knot and clamp consistently it doesnt matter what you use. Now the high dollar machnes will make that quicker and easier to do.

    But my little eagnas cahllenger with Wise head is all I will ever need.
     
  31. ryangoring

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    I have owned an X2 by Gamma and it is a great investment. They have vids online youtube that can coach you thru. Once you have the determination and the patience, you can get great results. I now own another machine but all in all what you buy and the efforts you put in, you will never look back.
    Just go ahead take the plunge, you string your own sticks, no labor costs, and you can play around with and test out new strings. It is a fun idea.......JUST DO IT ALREADY!!!!! :)
     
  32. bad_call

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    bought a klippermate drop weight and happy with it. cheap, no maintenance (being a drop weight) and easy to use. wish i had done it sooner...but then i a roommate who strung for me so no reason til 1) got crappy string jobs from the big sports store, 2) string selection was limited (unlike TW amongst others), 3) tired of driving to dropped off and pick it up days later.

    btw - if you are into trying different strings, be ready for string trades. :)
     
  33. mikeler

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    I bought my Gamma X-ST crank lock-out machine on the advice of a friend (prior to joining TT forums). After that, I bought the stand and cover. Finally I bought some caster wheels so I could wheel it around the house. All in all, I think I put $750 into it. If I buy those Prince rackets, I'll spend $40 more on a starting clamp to make those crosses easier. I've only had to calibrate it once so far. Just cleaned the clamps for the first time last string job. You do have to adjust the clamp tightness about once every 3 months. Takes about 1 minute.

    You can just watch YuLitle videos to learn how to string or watch one of us do it. It will be very slow at first but by your 20th string job you'll start day dreaming and then realize you are halfway done with your crosses. If you have a busy schedule, then you might want to just continue using Frank. Bad_call summed up the advantages pretty well. I actually enjoy stringing. Don't sip any IPAs your first few times. My first string job took 4 hours and I broke it on the last knot tightening it with the tensioner (a big no no)!
     
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  34. Power Player

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    haha..4 hours..damn..yeah that is tough for me, but it would be a cool skill to learn. I am still on the fence. I am going to see if Frank moves to Azalea, because if that happens, I will be all set.
     
  35. mikeler

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    It went from 4 to 3, down to 2.5, then 2, to 1.5 hours after 5 stringings. If I move fast, now I can cut out the old strings, measure out the new ones, mount the racket, string it and then get it off in about 45 minutes.
     
  36. mikeler

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    6 days later and my elbow pain went from an 8 out of 10 to a 2 out of 10. Maybe I'll be all better in 2 more days. I have a Monday and Wednesday appointment. I'm hoping that will be it for the chiropractic work.
     
  37. coyfish

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    My first string job took 3 hours. I was looking at all the pictures, reading the diagrams, organizing all the parts, and learning how it works. Its really not complicated at all.

    Takes me about an hour and 15 minutes for a racket which is really a time saver when you think about it. Takes me 20 min to drive to a tennis shop to have it strung, I have to wait at least a day or 2, and then drive to pick it up.

    Ive also got a klippermate. Can't beat it. Super cheap and easy. Came with good strings too.
     
  38. bad_call

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    coyfish - have u had a chance to try those strings? also can u shoot me an email thru my username so i will have it on record? thanks.
     
  39. ryangoring

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    ok i'm in orlando tomorrow, and would like to hit with someone. i think i get off around 6-7pm and i'm working off of kirkman road.
    anyone?
     
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    Well I will be working in Orlando. Now, so yeah I be able to hit with some of the TTCFL.
     
  41. ssgator80

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    Ryan, I could hit but I'm not sure where we can play. I not sure we can find a court at Lake Cane - of course we need lights.

    Shoot me an email through the system.

    SS
     
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    You could always try the 4 courts over there behind the Dr. Phillips library. If you get in a bind, I have a key for the lights for my neighborhood and I think I still have the current key for the lights at the neighborhood courts in South Bay.
     
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    ssgator,

    You may want to play the Seehafer Open at Lake Cane in 2 weeks. The one year I played in it, I had a blast. Got the #8 seed in the first round who was ranked #2 in Florida. I almost fell to my knees when I got a game off him. He plays the Citrus every year, I'll point him out to you if I play this year.

    I played the consolation round and I was killing this guy before he realized that he was not wearing his glasses. He almost came back and beat me! The next match, I came out hot and then there was a rain delay. After that I stunk and got killed. It was fun though.

    http://tennislink.usta.com/Tournaments/TournamentHome/Tournament.aspx?T=73466
     
  44. Power Player

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    Klippermates are not expensive either..nice.

    I just hit at those courts behind the D phillips library a few weeks ago. It was a tennis date though, I usually do not ever play in that area, but I made an exception ;)
     
  45. coyfish

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    Tried them yesterday. STrung the mains at 53.5 and the crosses at 56.5. It still didn't feel as "cushiony" as yours felt. Im not sure why that is. Maybe I have a denser string pattern. Didn't feel bad though. I definately got a bit more power on my serve . . . especially the 2nd.

    As for the strings themselves . . . I didn't notice much of a difference. Nothing significantly different at least aside from the softness. Sometimes when I get into a hard hitting match my right elbow will be a bit tender and hot. Goes away the next day usually but my arm felt 100% normal after playing yesterday with your string. Probably going to play today after my class. Give them another shot when they have broken in a little bit more.
     
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    Cool do you live around that area? My parents live in windermere by isleworth so some weekends I hang around pretty bored in those parts.
     
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    I live right off Park Avenue in Winter Park, so I'm usually not out there in DP too much. I do most of my hitting at Winter Park or downtown.
     
  48. mikeler

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    I used to play quite a bit at the Dr. Phillips courts when I got back into tennis 6 years ago. The two courts closer to the parking lot are in much better shape than the two further away. The nets are usually torn up too. It is nice to have that tennis wall there except when you are playing a match and some guy is banging away constantly at it. The worst part about playing there is the lack of tennis etiquette.
     
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    hahaha...everything you said was dead on. There was a guy banging at the wall next to me, we took the best court which was next to it and the nets were hot garbage. Oh well, at least I had good company.
     
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    ssgator,

    When my elbow finally heals, maybe I can hit with your stick for a few minutes just to see what it feels like.
     

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