Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by zapvor, Apr 24, 2007.
Cliff Lee just tossed a GEM. The reverse jinx worked
I love lists like this:
RHP: Walter Johnson
LHP: Sandy Koufax
1st: Lou Gehrig
2nd: Jackie Robinson
3rd: Mike Schmidt
SS: Cal Ripken
LF: Ty Cobb
CF: Joe DiMaggio
RF: Babe Ruth
C: Johnny Bench
Good work! Keep it up for at least three more games, okay?
You are the first guy I have ever heard actually put ripken on a list like this. I would like to now your thinking on that one.
I would pick Ozzie "The Wizard" Smith at SS alongside Brooks at 3B; opposing righthanded hitters would starve against that lineup. They would have to forget about pulling the ball. I like Bags at 1B and Alomar is a good pick at 2B, but I would think long and hard about Joe Morgan. He and Davey Concepcion were a terrific DP combo on the Big Red Machine in the 70s.
I appreciate Z's recognition of Jackie Robinson at 2B, but I have to be honest on this one - while he was one of the most significant players of the 20th century, he played almost as many games at other positions as he played at 2B (748 games at 2B, 197 at 1B, 256 at 3B, 238 in the OF and 1 at SS). He would be on my all-time team, but I would not limit him to one position.
An aside: Jackie played football at UCLA with Kenny Washington and Woody Strode, both of whom cracked the color barrier in the modern-day NFL (LA Rams). One of their teammates was Tom Harmon, dad of future UCLA QB and current TV star Mark Harmon (NCIS). Strode later became a movie star.
like I said the Alomar pick is basically because everybody forgets how good he was. Joe Morgan was great, but I cant get over the elbow flapping chickem wing thing If not Alomar I would go with Rogers Hornsby.
And for the outfiled do you throw defense out the window and go With Bonds later in his career or do like like D and go with Bonds early in his career? Can you mix them up. Kinda remarkle how good that guy all around before he became the single most dominant hitter I have ever seen. It was its like he had two careers.
Most OF lists would be
LF: Ted Williams
But you need different kinds of hitters So you cant leave off the greatest leadoff man in history. So I give Rickey Henderson the nod in LF. Already got too many Right Handed hitters and need some balance offensivly So my CF would be Ty Cobb. And in right field Im gonna throw Pete Rose out there so I got another Switch hitter
did i step into baseballwarehouse.com?
i'm pretty sure mario was the greatest videogame baseball player of all time . . . a distant second would be videogame Bo Jackson.
here he is facing CC Sabathia:
i want to like baseball. i loved playing baseball as a kid. but watching baseball is only fun like it's been during the postseason and in particular, last night's game because the yankees sucked it royally. the entire 165 or 169 or whatever the funk amount of ungodly games seems like a really long and pointlesss buildup. i equate it to tantric sex or whatever the heck sting does where he talks about having sex for hours and hours because the eventually O winds up being unbelievably great.
you baseball purists would never put up with it but i'd watch baseball if they made it some sort of NCAA march madness type of tournament style. doesn't mean the best team wins the world series but at least each game MEANS SOMETHING.
Baseball isnt a game that lends itself to short seasons and single game matchups.
I wouldnt mind them going back to 154 game seasons and reduce the time off in between these postseason games/series. If this world series goes 7 games they will be playing in NOV. Thats ridiculous right there.
I have trouble watching baseball anymore because theres no strategy left at all. But it was nice watching Cliff Lee do his thing last night
Trying to stay with your analogy here - would you rather have fantastic sex for 24 hours 1 day a year or have pretty good sex for an hour a day, 365 days a year?
We report, you decide.
Nice. I always say the bigger they are, the more it hurts when they fall on you. And you won the tiebreak 10 to cool! Amazing.
LOL! That's supposed to be an 8.
Wasn't easy, though the fact that his serve was off and he hit a bunch of double faults really helped. I think I had the edge in rallies IF I got his serve back.
He's good guy though. It was a very enjoyable match.
TFM, speaking of unbelieveably great, how was the hitting last night during your "lesson" you teach them dudes a thing or 3?
i like your analogy. but your analogy fails to mention that the hour of "pretty good" sex an hour a day, 365 days a year is without climax. sure you're going through the motions for an hour but at the end of the hour, all you're left with is blue balls.
all i'm saying is -- why does it take 162 games to figure out who the best teams in baseball are? seems silly. not so sure the NBA regular season is much better. NFL gets it right. tennis season is also too long.
phillies in 5. woot.
not exactly. i bailed. i know shocker. but TFM McBailed. it was windy and chance of rain. didn't feel like driving into DC to get rained out. turns out it didn't rain but still windy. sappy got schooled by one of the pros. i don't think sappy even touched a service return.
wanna try tennis this weekend? maybe indoors in the evening?
Its the way games are that makes a difference. In the MLB the worst team can beat the best team one or 2 times regularly, it happens quite often. In football 90% of the time the team that is better win the games, and if they played a series the better team would win that 99% of the time.
What wierd is that when baseball expanmded from 154 to 162 nobody cared. But now you dont have the beat writers following the teams around all season long so its hard to really keep up witht he local teams. All the games you see are TV games so alot of the radio calls are gone as well, so its harder to follow that it was when baseball pwned all.
hhmmm next week (evenings) looks to be the better alternative. Am hitting with Alice up in wonderland on saturday with folks from her 7.0 mixed team but after that am pretty much busy running around for halloween festivities and errands. oi... I feel like I'm going to need another weekend to recover from my weekend!
*our* 7.0 mixed team, jrp! ...don't worry; at the practice, we'll vote on our team name, and at the team luncheon, i'll pass out the uniforms. kidding, of course. that was actually my true-life experience with my women's team this spring. we did everthing short of braiding pink ribbons into our hair. it was fawesome.
i am baking for our practice, though: mini pumpkin raisin cupcakes with maple frosting. no kidding. tfm, i'm so sorry that you can't play (eat) with us...
haha tuche'! USTA team uniform combos are funny though... I remember playing on a team down in VA when I first moved to the area and in a span of 3 weeks had 3 dif partners who wore everything from nothing but brand new adidas stuff, frumpy old athletic wear from the late 80's, and hodge podge of gear from reebok shoes to a vintage sergio tachini shirt ala goran invenisevic! all nice dudes but very interesting personalities!
definitly looking forward to getting out there and hitting on saturday. this weather (or maybe its work) has got me ina funk lately.
Oops. Forgot your situation. Sorry about that. I was speaking for regular men.
Two words on the long, long schedules - T and V. Same reason for the divisions and divisional playoffs and championship playoffs, all before the World Series - TV money for the owners, bigger salaries for the players and to he!! with the fans. That's why we will likely see a World Series game in NOVEMBER!!!!!! I liked the 154-game schedule and one pennant winner in the National League and one pennant winner in the American League. And daytime WS games, usually over by the latest mid October.
You gotta realize when MLB started, it was pretty much the only professional game around - except for college football in the South and Notre Dame in the North. No TV, no commercial airlines, radio was still in its infancy and they had to play enough games to give their fans a chance to see them. And except for St. Louis, it was all played east of the Mississippi River and north of D.C. Everything was slower and more compact then.
Agree that the other pro leagues - NBA, NHL, MLS and tennis, too - play way too many games (or tournaments). Who wants to watch 82 games of exhibition basketball until the playoffs start - usually with the same teams most years?
I hope the Phillies win it, and I hope Cliff Lee wins 3 games, including the last one, with an ERA of .333. Then he signs with the Dodgers for 2010.
TFM - The South Park version of poker face - LOL!!!!
It takes two weeks for every country in the world to compete in the Olympics Yet it takes 3 weeks for the 1st round of NBA playoffs to end.
I liked when they had east and west divisions that played 1 7 games series to go to the world series. That why I hate when they say these guys are breaking al these post season records. A guy has a ton of hits because not only do the their teams make the Playoffs alot he has an extra 7-12 games each postseason to play.
And the NFL is going to go to 18 games and probably add 4 more wildcards. To get an extra 4 playoff games in. Its all about the benjamins baby.
No outfield can be without Ruth or Cobb. That leaves one spot for Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Roberto Clemente (greatest defensive RF ever), and let's not forget Teddy Ballgame himself. Not to mention my own favorite of all time, Joe D.
No one who took steriods deserves to be on any list of great players. You betray the game, you do not deserve the honor. So Bonds is just a footnote, if that.
Henderson --- interesting choice. Can't argue about him being the best lead-off man ever. I could see an outfield of Henderson, Cobb and Ruth (can you imagine how compatible that would be? Cobb was a racist, so he'd hate Henderson; and he and Ruth got along like, well, oil and water.) But in my viw, any greatest team of all time has to have Cobb (the GOAT, imho), Ruth and Gehrig on it. Everyone else is arguable. Including the pitchers.
BTW, baseball was made for radio. TV is a medium that somehow is better suited to football. Television is why football is now truly America's pasttime.
+1. i grew up listening to the yO's games with my parents, and when i hear tom davis' voice, it takes me back every every time. i remember the last game they played at memorial stadium, and i swear i still haven't gotten over that sad day.
I grew up, first as a Pirates fan listening to Bob 'The Gunner" Prince on KDKA, then as an O's fan listening to Chuck Thompson. These men were great announcers. It was a real art form. Jon Miller is also a great one; and the day he left Baltimore for San Francisco was a sad day indeed.
Remember Rex Barney? Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu....He was class as well. I was at the last night game at Memorial, vs. the Tigers.
But Rex Barney went a little crazt with those stupid thank yous. I went to agame once and he spent 20 minutes mentioning sponsors.
To Esskay Franks, the official Hot Dog of the O's Thanml Yoouuuuuu
To Ford Motor company the official cars of the O's thank yoooouuuuuu he said at least 25 freakin companies and ended every sentance with thank youiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. So I got tired of him real fast.
Babe ruth the hitter there is no dentying his accomplishments. But the man wasnt fleet of foot. Couldnt run bases. He could hit and he had a good arm. Ill take Pete Rose out there bat him in the 9 hole and by the 2nd third inning the pitchers has to try and keep pete, Rickey and Cobb off base for my mashers to come up.
You have the image of Babe the hot dog eater in your mind, I think! When he has younger and skinnier, he was, if I remember Creamer's biography correctly, rather fast. But I could be wrong. It's been a long time since I read that book. Pete Rose....man, with him on your team, you're halfway to victory already.
I remember Rex as the host of Öriole Talk" on WBAL, taking a call from someone who, clearly, was mentally handicapped. Many talk radio jerks would not have the patience to listen to that kind of a call, let alone answer corrrectly; but Rex Barney handled that person with tact and grace and dignity.
It reminds me of a story about President Reagan. Regan wa staking questions from an audience, and someone with a cleft palate or other kind of speech impediment stood up and asked a question that could not be deciphered.
Reagan leaned forward, put his hand behind his ear, and said, Ï'm sorry, but you know, I'm getting pretty opld and my hearing isn't what it used to be."
Class act from a president who, from across the ideological spectrum, I still consider one of our greatest.
Charlie hustle was one of the best players to watch. He was like the working man who made it to the top because he worked hard and deserved it. Its A shame he actually a lunatic. But he loves the game of baseball and is still to this day all about the fans.
My buddy saw a commercial for a pete rose hitting video. My friend was all about Pete Rose and was very similar to him in the way he played the game. So much so that the paper at WVU wrote an article saying how watching him play reminded them of Pete. Well he tells this to the guy on the phone, and the dude requests a copy of the article because he meets with Pete once a week.
So my buddy sends the article and when he gets the video back its Signed by Pete, the Article is signed by pete and say keep hustlin, and he also sent him a baseball signed. So in my book Petes my right fielder over Ruth.
Also this same friend went to Ripken Srs baseball school like 8 yrs in a row (me only two). But Ripken knew out HdG unis because Aberdeen is like right here. Chad would go help Sr take care of yard work and they would talk baseball. He was more than some guy who knew Sr. So when my buddy didngt get drafted over 9 guys on his college team who did (and all nine were juicin) Billy Ripken was nice enough to give a kid with a degree a job as an intern with Ripken Baseball making 18k a year. The deal was the business was just starting and when it took off he would be there to reap the bennies. Well he worked in the same office with Cal for 4 months and the only time Cal said anything to him was when he wanted to buy squares for the superbowl.
So you can have the greediest phoniest player of all times as your short stop also. Your team will have chemsitry issues and fail
But barney got too commercial with the thank yous. thats all Im saying. Kinda how Harry Kalas would say "from stretch" just about everytime a phillies pitcher was getting ready to throw when a runner was on base. like a good song that gets overplayed too much is too much.
OK, Cal's out. Honus Wagner is in.
I'm actually kinda glad about this, because an ex-girlfriend had dated Brady Anderson (before me) and had met Cal. I'm no longer an Orioles fan because of that woman. So anytime I can ditch them, I do.
Did she tell you Brady Anderson juiced it up 5 times a day? Besides from Texiera and Eckstein Brady may have been the biggets juicer in the Game.
And a guy I played high school ball with had a sister who was super hot, then she got implants and became even hotter. She was dating Armando Benitez for a while.
Goes to show you with money you can just about do it all.
Like Lawrence from Office Space.
What would you do if you had a million dollars?
Lawrence: I'll tell you what I'd do, man: two chicks at the same time, man.
[Peter laughs a little but stops when he sees Lawrence's stone-faced expression. He stares at Lawrence and his stare is met with Lawrence's emotionless gaze. The viewer sees that Lawrence takes the hypothetical menage a trois very seriously. The conversation resumes after an uncomfortable pause.]
Peter Gibbons: That's it? If you had a million dollars, you'd do two chicks at the same time?
Lawrence: Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I had a million dollars I could hook that up, 'cause chicks dig a dude with money.
Peter Gibbons: Well, not all chicks.
Lawrence: Well the kind of chicks that'd double up on a dude like me do.
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What do you got against Armando?
I don't even know who Armando is. And I did not watch the video.
But thank you.
Armando was the guy that gave up the infamous Jeff Maier HR in the Postseason. Hes also the guy that gave up 3 bomb and plucked Tino Martinez next and challenged the whole yankee team to fight them. And Darly Strawberry clened his clock
Here at Dulles waiting for plane to take me to castle Drakulie. Odd feeling not having any twmac members joining me this time. Last time we had a last minute dash Dats just making the flight. Thats a feat with his knees.
So agenda is to play tennis, make Panterka drink for her bday ( as well as let her know of shcmads admiration), and go out for Halloween. This year my costume is my standard. Clark Kent with open shirt showing big S.
Can't wait to see Florida palm trees and see Bailey dog.
p.s. I so need to move somewhere warm.
sup -- if you don't wanna come back to NOVA til springtime - we'll understand. but please send pics of the debauchery and post videos of any outstanding open level players you run into.
twmac -- anyone got an old yonex ultimum rd ti-70? got a guy looking for one or two or 10.
oh yes -- my new sticks arrived yesterday. i'd rate them 8.8/10 in condition and 11/10 in looks. they're the best looking racquets i've ever seen. i almost don't want to play with them. i might buy new grommets and headguard and hang them on the wall in the den.
I got a 27.5 inch Ult Rd-Ti 50 but no 70s sorry
Does the guy want the 88s like Kraijec (sp?) or the 98s?
hollywood -- not sure. i know that there are two different types with the 88 and the 98 but i think that one is also an extended length. no sweat. i think i hit with your ti-50. that's a real warclub. heavy and powerful and heavy are the things i remember.
Are you guys still alive down there? Looking forward to youtube videos and pictures of the weekends festivities.
the ti 50 was light. And I put a full job of sheep micro but strung it too loose. You hit one ball with it and put it back in my back.
The war club is my RDpower 10 super mid. Its a 105 SQ inch 28 inch 12.5 ouncer. Ihad it when we had that meet at JRKs spot that time you probably remeber that one more than the 50
Looks like Yonex copied the same color scheme as the Wilson Hyper Prostaff 6.1s... so in that regard yes I agree best looking racquets I've ever seen
ahh gotcha. was that the time we hit with nitefly indoors? can't remember. it must not have been good for me. what's for lunch?
no way. the hyper prostaff 6.1 looks like black and red. and it has really bold yellow HYPER on it. hey look at me i'm HYPER. not the same.
this one is red and blue and white. patriotic and american. epic WIN. i realize now that i'm going to hit with them for the first time and i'm going to hate them because they can't possibly LOOK good and PLAY gooder.
To get away from dead baseball heroes, I am intrigued by this marketing ploy - Skirt Chaser 5K:
Note the cool-looking running duds. I can just see a bunch of these guys
chasing a bunch of these ladies
in Savannah on Halloween.
TFM - Looks like the Caddy CTS-V is hella fast.
Did you see this Jalopnic Challenge? The one driver beat out an Audi RS, an BMW M5, an BMW M3 around the track.
i'd gladly take any of the cars in that group. i'm predisposed in favor of the german cars -- i am german after all. but i'd give the caddy a shot. i haven't been in a cadillac since the 80's when my parents had a cadillac sedan deville in baby blue. it looked like those baby blue tuxes with white leather interior. i would imagine the new caddy's are a little different. or maybe not.
TWMAC -- given $60-80K of your own money - what would you buy?
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