And Paul Hollywood 3.5 math is like this. 5.0 serve + 4.0 FH +2.0 BH + 1.0 Volleys + 2.5 mobility = 3.5 NTRP in case you were wondering TFM, how fast did I serve when I won that beer from you? JRK didnt get that speed, and he doesn't roll hard in the paint with lesbians either I can agree with you on the serves. Its kinda like baseball. Randy Johnson threw 100mph. but it was a light 100mph and guys like Jeff Rebulet would tee off on him. But then you have a guy like Josh Beckett who doesnt quite throw 100 but the balls seems heavier. So I guess tennis can be the same way. JRK always kept me off balance returning his serve. Could never quite get used to it. Mos Def aced me more than I aced him.