The 1953 Davis Cup Challenge Round: Australia 3, United States 2

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    Hoad was 5 to 0 against Rosewall that year, and 2 to 0 against Trabert.

    The Davis Cup final in 1953 was played during a Royal tour of Australia, and had the character of a year-end championship, with the top four players squaring off for all the marbles.
     
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    Nice to see John Barrett deliver the Cincinnati Cup to Fed today.
     
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    Interesting, for this historic showdown at Forest Hills, where the U.S. Vice President Richard M. Nixon presented the trophies, and ten million American TV sets watched the color broadcast, the first national color broadcast of anything by NBC, the Australian doubles team consisted of Hoad and Hartwig.

    Hopman was still saving Rosewall for singles only.

    Hartwig in these video excerpts looks below Rosewall's level in doubles.
     
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    This was the broadcast Davis Cup final where Vice President Nixon presented the trophies, and stated that Hoad and Trabert "have shown us that tennis is not a game for sissies."

    This event was important for the politicians.
     
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    Another proof, if needed,of how deep Nixon centrism was well before running for Presidency
     
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    1953 Davis Cup Final...USA vs. Australia

    Wonderful stuff...
     
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    Here is the Hoad/Seixas match from the 1953 (mislabelled 1954 again) Davis Cup final.

    Note the magnificent shots of Kooyong Stadium, the "Spiritual Home of Australian Tennis".

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/aussies-keep-davis-cup

    During one exchange, Seixas is apparently knocked off his feet by one of Hoad's groundstrokes.

    Unbelievable power.
     
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    Hoad was reputed to possess unbelievable power.
     
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    Interesting to compare Seixas' form in this match against the same two players at Wimbledon in 1953 (see Hoad thread).
     
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    Thor and Iron Man were inspired upon Hoad
     
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    Several players were inspired by Hoad, too.

    Orantes, his star pupil, Bob Lutz, others.
     
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    I think that Davis Cup has recently regained much of its importance...just witness the mass enthusiasm of the crowds.
    In Canada, the live and television audiences went crazy over the recent win over Japan in Davis Cup.
     
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    Here is a link to the 1932 Davis Cup final, where Borotra put on a great show to win both his singles against Vines and Allison, at age 33.
    This performance was similar in excitement to Hoad's great showing in 1953.

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/france-retains-the-davis-cup/query/Borotra
     
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    Interesting to notice how aggressive Borotra was. I know they are only brief highlights, but most of the points show him attacking the net, despite it being on clay.
     
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    Wow that's amazing, had no idea there was footage of that tie. Thanks for posting.

    There's probably more to that footage (but who knows if it's survived).

    Great story, that Davis Cup tie, probably deserves its own thread.
     
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    Here is a great memo to the 1973 Australian Davis Cup squad, and the great success of that year.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd_I4uqmxDk

    It is interesting to find out where these players were during the 1953 Davis Cup final...Newcombe was in the stands.
     
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    Thanks Dan. That doubles match with Laver and Newcombe was to my fading memory the best doubles I've ever seen played.

    Such a powerful Davis Cup team! A lot of people forget that Newcombe was actually the number one player on the team. It was a touch choice between Laver and Rosewall but Laver was chosen because of his great power. Laver easily proved the decision was correct.

    I'm not convinced it was the best Davis Cup team since Laver and Rosewall were old but it's up there. I could see Australia in 1970 (if they were allowed to play) with near prime Laver, Newcombe, Roche and Rosewall as being a lot stronger. Other teams in the past and since that time could be comparable to the 1973 team.
     
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    If memory serves, Newcombe attended the 1953 Davis Cup final with his father, sitting in the stands, and decided right then on a tennis career.
    Laver and other juniors watched the matches from Hoad's parent's home on TV (?)
     
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    You are correct. Borotra preferred to attack from the net, even on slow clay. No dingdongpingpong from him, you can be sure. He was one of the earliest and greatest serve-and-volley exponents. He was known as the Bounding Basque because he hit so many winning volleys while leaping from one side to the other.
     
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    A nice read, particularly because Hoad gives much praise to Trabert.

    Great competitors, but gentleman also.
     
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    In 1954, films of the 1953 Davis Cup final were shown in many sites in the U.S.A., and helped to build anticipation for the next two years' finals.
     
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    I would nominate this behind-the-back half-volley of Hoad as the best "behind" shot of all time.
     
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    During the 1953 Davis Cup finals in Melbourne, Queen Elizabeth (who had just celebrated her Coronation that year) and Prince Philip were touring Australia, and took in the Davis Cup finals.

    In addition, they were apparently given the task of presenting the Davis Cup player awards to the Australian team members.
    Notice the puzzled side-glance the Queen gives to Hoad after he talks with her.


    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/queen-in-victoria-1/query/Rosewall


    The Queen also broke her long aversion to Wimbledon in 1957 to attend the finals and watch Hoad win the final over Cooper.
    Her only other appearances at the Wimbledon finals were in 1962 to watch Laver win, and in 1977 for the Wimbledon centennial tournament.
     
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    From the appearance of the stadium, this is Kooyong, however, the sunshine suggests a day later than the final match of Rosewall/Seixas.
     
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    Here is some remarkable footage of the 1924 Wimbledon championships, including the men's final between Borotra and Lacoste, won by Borotra.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioLSf1ZyD9k

    Borotora was ahead of his time.
     
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    The 1953 Davis Cup final was an inspiration to the juniors in the Aussie program, such as Laver and Emerson.

    I think that I recall reading somewhere that Laver and Emerson were in Sydney at Hoad's parents' house watching the 1953 Davis Cup finals on television.

    Here is Emerson against McKinley in the most anticipated match of 1964, the Davis Cup decider, and I remember that as a young player of 13, we were all talking about it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJYmGGwwSd8

    It was probably after this match that Laver and Rosewall offered Emerson an $80,000 guarantee to turn pro, which Emerson turned down.
     
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    In the 1924 Wimbledon final, notice the presence of Queen Mary, the mother of the then King George V. Her grandson, the later George VI, would play in Wimbledon doubles.

    Notice the physical resemblance between Queen Mary and the current Queen Elizabeth, her great grand-daughter, who appears in the Davis Cup ceremony cited above.
     
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    Borotra was considered to be one of the finest volleyers of his day and one of the finest ever.
     
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    I'm not sure that was a puzzled look. I reckon she may have fancied him! She only turns away when forced too, and she doesn't give Rosewall so much as a second glance.
     
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    Sorry, I think that I got the generations wrong...Queen Mary would be the consort of King George V, the mother of George VI, and therefore the grandmother of the present Queen Elizabeth II....thus, the physical resemblance.

    The great-grandmother of the current queen would have been Queen Alexandra, the mother-in-law of Queen Mary.

    I HOPE that I have that right.
     
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    There was an interview with the coach on why Fraser chose Laver over Rosewall for the second spot in singles on the 1973 Davis Cup team. Fraser pointed out that if he didn't pick the power player (Laver) he would have been giving up a natural advantage. There was even doubt if Laver would make the team but Laver defeated both Rosewall and Newk in a tournament late in the year to make the team! After that Fraser make imo the logical choice considering Laver's natural power game on that surface.
     
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    Where was Arthur Ashe?
     
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    Good question. I don't know. Certainly Ashe and Smith for singles would have been far superior to Smith and Gorman.
     
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    I just looked in Arthur Ashe's book (Arthur Ashe-Portrait in Motion) for where he was in late November of 1973. Ashe was playing the South African Open. He reached the final against Connors. It was an historic moment since he was an African-American in South Africa in the finals. He also met with some important people like a powerful Zulu Chieftain also late in November.

    In hindsight the best possible US team in 1973 would have been Connors, Ashe and Stan Smith for singles and Smith and Lutz for doubles. On paper this is a team that could defeat the 1973 Aussie squad. I probably would have had Connors play against Newcombe and Laver. I suppose Smith, being the higher ranked player would play over Ashe but that's close. The problem obviously is that Ashe always lost to Laver in those days.

    Of course Connors wasn't going to play Davis Cup in those days.
     
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    Well Ashe finished the year ranked number 10 whilst I think Gorman was number 11, so form wise there was little between them. Also, Gorman was coming off an impressive victory at the Stockholm Open. I think Gorman also had a winning record over Laver at that point, including that 71 Wimbledon QF where he straight-setted him. The Davis Cup match did go 5 sets, Gorman leading 2-1 at one point, so not a bad pick for playing Laver.

    Would Smith have beaten Laver if they played the first (or second) rubber? He owned him that year, but by the time they met the tie was over.

    Where was Lutz? I looked at his Davis Cup record and noticed he did not play between 1970 and 1975.
     
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    Well, could have easily been the greatest DC final of the modern era.
     
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    Probably. A young Connors against Laver in a big match. Wow! Not easy to call at this point. Connors' return may neutralize Laver's serve and volley somewhat.

    Any ideas on who would win in late 1973 if you had to call it Kiki?
     
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    I think both the 53 and 73 teams were strong but could have been a lot stronger a few years later/earlier.

    69/70 - Laver, Rosewall, Newcombe, Roche versus
    58/59 - Hoad, Rosewall, Sedgman, McGregor

    Played at Kooyong - who wins?
     
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    Well, Stan Smith had had a great 72 and first half of 73 yet he lost to the two aussies at home.Connors lacked a bit of experience but had won SAF Open by beating Ashe, so he was very much in form and could make a dent on any of the two aussies.Ashe almost never beat either Laver or Newk in a big match.

    I´d pick Connors and Smith for the singles and then I´d pick Ashe and Tanner ( Gorman would be out ) at doubs to counter the power and balance of Laver-Newcombe.This would also give an extra day to Smith, which would not be the case if he played doubs.That extra day may have made a difference, lets say, against an ageeing Laver who would have ALSO played doubles.I still think Australia would win it but it would have probably been far closer than it turned out to be.
     
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    The 1959 vs 1970 Australian teams face up? that would be almost impossible to tell.Two mighty shotmakers like Hoad vs Laver and two of the best ever S&V players like Sedgman vs Newcombe? Hoad and Rosewall or Sedgman and Mc Gregor vs Newcombe and Roche? I´d still give the edge to the 1950´s team if Rosewall could play himself.That is, 1959 Rosewall would most likely beat 1970 Rosewall.

    Since this is not possible, any of the two teams would be able to beat the other...and any other team in history.Probably two of the strongest four teams of all time.The 1920´s French and the 1980´s Sweden team would be my other two.1970 Spain on clay would be possibly my fifth best team.
     
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    All-time potential teams for Davis Cup?

    Also Budge/Vines in late 1930's.
     
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    Yes, Budge and Vines together looks great.1984 Connors, Mac and Fleming ( with Arias as a sub) is also a great team.

    If Kramer and Gonzales hadn´t turned pro, the US would have had an almost unbeatable team from 1948 to, at least, 1954.
     
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    In 1973, i think, the Aussies would have beaten any US Team that year. Gorman is quite underrated today, and was Laver's nemesis, had beaten him at Wim in 1971. Laver, who came to form in late 1973, would have much preferred to play Ashe or an unexperienced Connors. Also the Team aspect is important: The Smith, Gorman, van Dillen Team had sharpened its skill, they had gone through the deathmarch at Bukarest in 1972, and had beaten some very strong teams in 1973. I think, that Ashe didn't want to join that stabile Champions Team in 1973, and Connors was always a disturbing maverick in team events.
    By the way, in the Aetna World Cup, all the best Yankees and Aussies played a Team Event between 1970 and 1975, consisting of singles and double, and in each year, the Aussies prevailed. They excelled in Team events.
     
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