The apocalypse is upon us: Fed learns to go to Nadal's BH

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  1. BigForehand

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    +1 he's a pathetic loser compared to Federer.
    Roger's gifts eclipse that spinmonkey's skills into an abyss.
     
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  2. bertrevert

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    Good point! What the phrase they use, is it "getting the book on someone"?

    Anyway, as the tour, the diversity of players, work something out on someone, you can see it being almost shared. They worked out Hewitt all those years ago. So I agree that its probably been Djoko who's found a way past Nadal which in turn teaches every other player to do something similar...
     
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    ^^^ironically, the first player I saw employ this tactic against Nadal was Hewitt in Hamburg. Everytime nadal went to hewitt's BH, Hewitt responded by stepping in and taking it early, redirecting it cross court. When the reply came back short (as Nadal is known to historically hit his FH short), Hewitt would hit a FH or BH down the line.

    why it has taken the rest of the tour so long to employ this tactic is beyond me.
     
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  4. Towser83

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    Yeah applauding opponents shots on court is much worse than scowling or throwing your racquet :lol:

    I don't really think Djokovic has been cocky, he's always given Fed and Nadal a lot of respect. And I don't see how his celebrations are any worse than Nadal's. Oh well.
     
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  5. kragster

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    Me neither. I think to be honest his entourage ( his parents, tipsy with than Rafa gun joke) etc make him seem more cocky than he actually is. Is he confident, yes , but every champion should be confident. But he shows his humility in spades when he loses, whereas fed or Rafa will usually find a way to imply that they didn't play well.
     
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  6. Biscuitmcgriddleson

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    Totally agree. It wasn't so long ago that Djoker said he was born in the wrong era. I was disgusted how his parents walked out at the French Open while he was playing Federer. Djoker has become very good natured in the past two plus years.
     
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  7. MichaelNadal

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    Nobody wants his pity claps. Djokovic is as fake as press-on nails.
     
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  8. Towser83

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    Yeah I don't like his parents much, but you can't blame him for that, and he is a much better loser than Federer and Nadal. People might not like his celebrations when he wins but he embraces the loser and then goes nuts, and come on - he has been totally overshadowed by Federer and Nadal for years, he's had to work so hard to break their grip on tennis. In 2010 he could barely serve or beat a top 10 player and was being talked about as mentally and physically weak, and a one slam wonder. To then go on the run he had in 2011, I don't blame him at all for for going nuts when he was winning. Put yourself in his place and all the losses you've had to 2 of the greatest players of all time, and now finally you're ahead of them and winning everything? I wouldn't blame anyone for streaking naked across the court :lol:
     
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  9. Towser83

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    what like fake nadal's fake humbleness? Oh no, that of course is real :lol:

    Sorry Djokovic has always had better sportsmanship than Nadal or Federer, and is less fake than them as well. Lol at the bitter "fake applause" accusations. You know if someone acts nice, just pretend it's not real.

    Not an all time great like them yet, but better sportsman.
     
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  10. MichaelNadal

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    Have u ever paid attention to his facial expression while he's "clapping"?
     
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  11. monfed

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    Well, Nadal not playing well(I thought he was decent btw) when conditions were heavily in his favour is not really excusable. Fed was good in patches too if you look at how the scorecard fluctuated, the pattern was similar to their recent matches(except the WTF where Fed outplays him) only this time Fed came out on top. Credit to Federer for playing better in the clutch(Eg - the 15-30 point and a clutch MP ace AFTER a rain break.)
     
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  12. kragster

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    Have you?

    I think you are referring to the ONE incident from USO fed semifinal where he had an angry look on his face while applauding but there are hundreds of others where he clearly has a look of admiration for the opponents shot.
     
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    I have and it's not genuine at all. It's a smart*ssed smirk,and is totally patronizing.
     
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    Really? You think Nadal was "decent" having hit,iirc,2 fh winners through nearly 2 sets of tennis? Come on,Monfed. Fed won fair and square,but Nadal should have stayed home with how awful he was.
     
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  15. MichaelNadal

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    Exactly, he played a better match than Rafa, and if the junk game Rafa brought was the best he could do on that day, it's his fault. Federer rightfully didn't feel sorry for him. But this new and improved backhand mess is a joke. He played the way he always does.
     
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  16. monfed

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    If you mean Federer's, I agree. Federer's new improved BH theory has been going on for quite a while now, never really bought it. It's just that it was more ON today judging by how many DTL BHs he made, a very tough shot to execute on a regular basis against the lasso FH of Nadal.
     
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  17. MichaelNadal

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    Good post and I agree.
     
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  18. Towser83

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    yeah exactly. Most times he just looks like "too good, fair play"

    I don't buy this crap that Djokovic in the heat of battle has enough presence of mind to fake applaud someone's shot so people will think he's nice. Seriously ridiculous when you can't applaud a shot without someone saying you're faking it.
     
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  19. monfed

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    Ok If you say so. :lol:
     
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  20. li0scc0

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    Clearly it is his new pee-pee problem injury, the bladder brace is on order
     
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