The ATP players apologize...

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  1. babbette

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    It's not arrogant, it's telling the truth when asked a question. Btw, has Djokovic qualified as the defending champion? Otherwise he and Nestor/Zimonjic would be just as arrogant.
     
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  3. Pwned

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    That's a bad response from Federer. That's not even close to arrogant. You'd have to be a complete moron to think that. That is border-line not even confident. He should be saying he WILL be there and expects to win.
     
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  4. babbette

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    did you guys enjoy the rest though? :p
     
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  5. maximo

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    The sound track was nice. ;)

    Djokovic said the arena has a capacity of 250,000 people. :(

    I guess people make mistakes...
     
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  6. swedechris

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    Nope. He doesnt.
     
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    People who think Fed is arrogant are delusional. They have no clue as to how to ascertain the difference between honesty and empty drivel.
     
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    I think he meant that the capacity for the whole week was 250.000 which is maybe possible?
     
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    even though i really dislike that man its nothing serious really
     
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    Yet another arrogant statement from Federer. Nothing new really.
     
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    You can sum up Fed's interviews in 3 words. I am Great
     
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  12. Marcel Granoller Bar

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    Not arrogance....Federer being an introvert, does not make the crowd pleasing statements all the time.

    Don't confuse this with the Sampras style statements, with implisite gradioseity.
     
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    Fed is the only one who acknowledges that he hasn't yet qualified, how does that make him arrogant?
     
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    Stefanki is a ******* :)
     
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    You're interpretation of the way he speaks English means either
    1) you're not a native English speaker (I highly doubt that)
    2) you've got a major chip on your shoulder
    3) you're a complete idiot

    I'll go with 2 and 3.
     
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  16. Vermillion

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    lol in b4 someone mentions nadal's "i'll see you in the finals"
     
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    Some of Fed's gems:

    1) "I take losses better because there are so few of them these days"

    2) "I have beaten Agassi so much lately that I am not worried about him"

    3) When talking about where he would be staying during the olympics in a recent press conference Federer says "It's not possible for me to stay there (olympic village), there are so many athletes who would want their pictures taken with me...I don't mind it, but everyday? I cant escape it..."

    4)n a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.

    "He's the favourite?"

    "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss added.

    "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."

    5)"Maybe people haven't seen a guy play like I have and that gives me a lot of compliments. That's beautiful.

    6) Given the rise of Rafael Nadal, who beat Federer in the French Open final, and Roddick's resurgence, Federer was asked if the gap had closed. His long pause seemed to answer the question.
    "I don't know. As long as I'm on top, I guess it doesn't really matter," Federer said. "You could say the gap is closing, but at the same time, I'm playing so well and consistent that it's going to be hard for them to pass me at the moment. That's for sure."

    Bad example from OP - Hell Yes. People delusional to think Fed is arrogant? HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOO!
     
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  18. Pwned

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    Stating facts is not being arrogant. Tiger Woods is the exact same way. Yet I don't hear half as many morons complaining about him. Giving complete lies while thinking the exact opposite during interviews (who do we know that does this....) is worse.
     
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    Here is the definition for all the people who think Federer is being arrogant.

    Arrogant: exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner.

    What, exactly, is Federer exaggerating in those quotes? Sounds like he is telling it as it is. Which apparently is too blunt for those that hate him. Being blunt is not the same as arrogance. People here have really poor word choice. Or maybe they are just trying to exaggerate themselves...
     
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    Yap, right on the money. Not to mention even worse gems like "I figured him out long time ago" just before losing to Djokovic in Miami and later in Rome. And many many more.

    Federer is the most arrogant player ever and only fanboys can kid themselves that he is not.
     
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    Or those that know what words actually mean. :roll:
     
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  22. tacou

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    Fed is so arrogant. he shoudl have just let himself get swamped by annoying ping pong players and speed walkers all through the olympics, just to prove how not arrogant he is!!
     
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    What is wrong with ping pong players and speed walkers? They are athletes just like Federer. Not lepers.

    Your post is arrogant and implies that Federer is way above other Olympic athletes. :shock:
     
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    Dude these were all facts at the time. No exaggeration here at all and hence no arrogance. And let's assume for a second he were arrogant....SO WHAT!!??? He was the number 1 tennis player on the planet for 4 consecutive years, and achieved things that were never achieved before. He was lauded wherever he went. What the hell would you expect from a young guy in his prime?? You have no clue how you would react had you been in the same situation - probably not much different and most likely more uncontrolled. And that's assuming it is arrogance, it's NOT. He is one of the most mature and honest players on the tour.
     
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    I dont know which one is worse, all i do know is both love to agree with each other when it comes to hating on fed
     
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    "*******" :confused:

    Is that anything like a *******? :???:

    (one good name deserves another :razz:)
     
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  27. tacou

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    nothing is wrong with them! but Roger is a little more popular than your average speed walker. he is a world wide celebrity, something they could never be.

    Roger was in a bad slump then and wanted to do well at the Olympics. I don't see how it's arrogant that he wanted to win rather than sign autographs.

    And besides all that, how is my post arrogant? Because perhaps you have a different definition of the word, as the accepted definition does not apply to my post in any way.
     
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    I propose renaming the bunch of '*******s' into 'Fedhatards', that way, gj011 falls nicely into that category as well, no?
     
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    Maybe since Gj011 likes to assume that certain posters are other people with different nicknames, perhaps Gj and NF are one in the same?
     
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    And that was not rude and trollish post? You are really a hypocrite and a jerk, aren't you.

    Stop with bullying it is not going to work, and I told you get off my case with your snotty remarks and false righteousness.
     
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    I 100% agree with you that almost ANYONE in Feds position would be arrogant. Had I been in that position there is more than a 90% chance I would be arrogant as well. It is human nature to become arrogant when you achieve greatness. I am not for one second denying that. I can understand the reasons for his arrogance. But HE IS arrogant is what I'm trying to say. Some might argue that although Nadal is yet to achieve as much as Federer, he has the right to be arrogant. Yet he isnt. If Nadal were to say " There is a very minute possibility that Federer will win the FO because I absolutely destroyed him last time" , that would pretty much be the truth right? So you would rather he say that instead of saying "It will be a tough match, I have to play my best"? I can understand if Nadal said " Fed is a much better player, he will surely win" , THEN it would be lying!

    To give you another analogy, if I went up to a fat person and said " You're fat" , that's not me being rude right? That's me being honest no?
     
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    Olympics is not about getting out of a bad slump, it is about other things. If Federer did't like that he should not have participated. His arrogant behavior didn't work anyway.

    Your post implied that ping pong players and speed walker are less worthy for some reason and hence arrogant as well.
     
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    What "other things"? :-?

    Are you going to blame Fed to keep himself focused? All he wanted to do was concentrate on improving his game so that he could win a medal for his country! and he knew that he would not be able to do that in the village...How in the hell can you twist that to make it look arrogant?!
     
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    Another interview that has been driven out of context by Fed haters. Nothing really new here.
     
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    It's not about the content of what he said , it's all about the phrasing. Why can't he just say " I can't stay in the village because there is so much interacti0n with the athletes that I will lose my focus".

    If Brad Pitt said the same thing at the Oscars , I am sure you would say he was arrogant!
     
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    How arrogant of Nadal. What did he say? "See you soon" or soemthing like that....assuming he's going to qualify. What an arrogant man...
     
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    But he is not arrogant. Arrogant is exaggeration, he does not do that. He simply states facts and what his judgements are. As for Nadal, he DOES in fact say what you quoted - that Federer is the greatest player of all time and he is much better than me. Over and over again. It's old and not genuine. It's almost a form of poor gamesmanship.

    It would be worse if you went up the fat person and called them skinny. This is the more appropriate analogy as to the difference between Fed's and Nadal's comments.
     
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    It's funny how Fed's fans totally partake in his own megalomania and delusions of grandeur.
    Isn't it right that Federer should acknowledge the superiority of his own artistry while ridiculing the awkward limitations of the rest of the field? Isn't it normal that he should marvel at his own genius compared to the striking inadequacy of other players? Isn't it natural that he should seek every possible refuge from the planetary relentless adoration that puts him at risk of insufferable harassment in any public place? Isn't it legitimate that he should not hide from the face of the earth that no tennis player has ever been as good as him? Isn't it sublime honesty to point out that his opponents crippled with embarrassing deficiencies will never match the flawlessness of his superlative skills?
    In the meantime, his main rival (who is only 22) has beaten him 13 times, 5 times in a slam final, Murray has beaten him the last 4 times they played and 6 times out of the last 7 times they played, Djokovic has beaten him 4 times in the last 7 times they played.
    Yes, unbeatable, untouchable, invincible and unparalleled, that's Fed all right!
     
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  39. Pwned

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    Except....he has never said anything close to that. Keep trying...
     
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    I did not mean they are inferior in any way, which I clarified in my other post. I watched a fair amount of ping pong, but it was indoor volleyball that I really enjoyed.

    I do agree the Olympics are about more than the ATP or any single sport in itself, but Federer still should want to compete at his highest possible level to represent his country well, and he thought having too much fan fare might distract him.
     
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    "Arrogant" for Roger Federer to say, when asked, that he's "most likely going to qualify"?!? That's positively modest. The guy has qualified six years running and already made a Slam final and won a Masters Series this season; he would literally almost have to die or be brutally crippled in order to not qualify.

    Maybe speaking as though was already in or knew he was going to win it would be arrogant on his part, but you're being ridiculous if you're actually going to become offended by the statement that he's "most likely going to qualify." It's about the most modest response he could possibly offer without lying or dodging the question.
     
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  42. IvanAndreevich

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    In the style of gj011

    Yet another bunch of Fed haters pulling words out of context to demonstrate their profound hatred :)
     
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    Federer would be a lot more interesting if he actually started dissecting and judging the games of hewitt, roddick, blake, ferrero, moya etc instead of just murray and nadal. Who knows maybe that day is coming?
     
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  44. TheTruth

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    That's very clever! I like it!
     
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    Look at the quotes in post 21. He is often putting down other players while praising his own game or attitude. Like saying if a player is not fit, they shouldn't step on the court (take that Novak, take that Rafa) or praising the variety in his game while stressing the one-dimensionality of the opponent, saying "no excuse" about another player, as if he never used excuses for himself, claiming he has a strategy to "surprise" the opponent while he knows the opponent's game "inside out", etc, etc and he had lots of remarks over the years about his amazing talent.
    He also did express at the Olympics that he couldn't stay in the village because he would get more harassed than anyone else which is kind of funny since at that particular time Nadal was much more in the spotlight than Fed was.
     
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    If you're waiting for Fed's "Aw shucks...I might, possibly, accidentally be a somewhat half-way good player" speech, Forget it. He didn't get to where is today by being a meely-mouth, unsure of his talent type person.
     
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  47. TheTruth

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    Great post! ROFL!
     
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    I think we all agree on that. The only disagreement is whether that makes him a honest person or a jerk...
     
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    I'm sure he wouldn't. Why should he? That doesn't mean we can't discuss him.
     
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    Strongly disagree! Fed was number 1 for 4 consecutive years whilst Nadal just captured the number 1 spot. Clearly the spotlight was on Nadal becoming the number 1 player after Wimbledon but Fed is not just an athlete, he is an icon, everywhere he goes people just flock the street to see him, not just on court but outside the court as well.
     
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