The Be All End All Of Stringing Machine Inquery Threads

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by iplaybetter, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. iplaybetter

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    The Be All End All Of Stringing Machine Inquery Threads, Well sorta

    this is my attempt at making one thread to eliminate the many threads that pop up on a regular, and repetitive basis

    klippermate vs. gamma X-2:
    the debate will go on, they are very similar, each has a plus and a minus,
    the clamps of the kilpper are believed to be better, and the tensioner of the x-2 is believed to be superior
    in the end, do a search
    klipermate:[​IMG]

    gamma X-2[​IMG]

    this is the only type of machine i have not used

    2pt vs. 4pt vs. 6pt:
    2pt generally is not as good as the 4 or 6, that said, if you mount it right with any system the racket should be fine, stringing is a lot of stress for a frame. The two most commonly sighted systems in threads debating superiority are the babolat 6pt and the prince 4pt(comonly miss called a 2pt)
    babolat: [​IMG]
    prince(sorry its big):[​IMG]

    common beliefs, confirming and dispelling:
    A)electric is superior
    electrics have advantages and disadvantages, the difference between an e-stringer and a sensor is huge, its not the power, its the machine
    high end electric machines use a constant pull system that creates a very consistent and more repeatable string bed
    the lower-end electronic machines are lockout-type machines (see below) and can have tension variances depending on the consistency of the electricity

    B)a more expensive stringer does a better job
    the machine is only a small part of the equation, any of the elite stringer on the board will do a "better" job on a klipper than a rookie stringer on a sensor

    C)you get what you pay for
    this is generally true, see the final point for more on this!

    D) lock out machines are inferior
    this is not a hot topic, but it is one worth talking about, the lockout type machine will produce a less consistent stringbed than a CP machine, this is for two major reasons: the first is the influence of crank speed on tension, the second is the lack of compensation for string elongation
    this said, they are in no way inferior, mearly different


    And finally...

    i address the eagnas issue:
    If you buy from them you are taking a risk
    they have notoriously bad customer service, and questionable quality, some get good ones, some get bad, its your risk

    You can not compare the machines to each other, they are each a clone of a specif machine made by one of the major manufacturers


    hope this helps, and remember, do a search before you post, and when you post be specific, that said, its ok to ask

    hope this helps
    suggest additions at will
    this thread is worth a look:
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=213946


    about me: I string 30-50 rackets a week, this is between work and personal business. I am the stringer for a local club, and string for some of the areas best players, i string on a prince neos1k at work, and a prince 3000 at home, i am not an mrt yet, but into become one in the near future
    my experience with different machines breaks down to about 100 on a cp electric, and almost 500 on a crank, i have experience with owning a prince and an alpha
    and i am 14

    ps, guys one star is awful harsh
     
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  2. Zach

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    Thank god, someone finally did this! I vote this should be a sticky.
     
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  3. Mansewerz

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    Seems kind of half assed for an end all be all machine inquery thread. A good thread would include some links, snazzy fonts, and more content, preferrable longer than that. And correct grammar as well. Thanks.
     
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    well, its more than you have done, and it happens to be a late summer night
     
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    With new technology popping up on the daily, I am just wondering who died and elected the OP the authority on stringing machines? :-?
     
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    come on man, barely 10 o clock here. I'll get started on some contributions to this thread.
     
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  7. iplaybetter

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    absolutely no one, we do not have a singular authority, we have many people with opinions, i am merely creating some form of a general guide to save the 100 threads a week, that are the same

    mansewrz- it was almost 11 here
     
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    I applaud you for making an attempt at providing helpful information to novices and new stringers but the title of your thread and lack of information to support your opinions will discourage some people from contributing to your project.

    I am not going to discredit you because we are all entitled to our opinions but I take threads such as this and many others like it with a grain a salt because I don't know you or your credentials (CS/MRT?)

    We will always have newbie questions because they aren't familiar with the boards and how to search for similar threads.
     
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    Mansewerz's contributions

    Made a new guide to buying stringing machines thread.
     
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    I think the intent would have come across better with better choice of the thread title, not that I'm not quilty of the same (recall: nasty christian hatred) ;)
     
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    Exactly my point. I love that guy! ^^^ :)
     
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  12. iplaybetter

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    the tittle is to overbering indeed, but with contribution i think it might work,
    btw i am not yet an mrt, but i string for some top local players and a local country club
     
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    I think both posts by iplaybetter and mansewerz have their merits.

    Iplaybetter's post is directed towards answering the questions that come up in the stringing forum frequently. Fix up a couple grammer errors that make it confusing, add more detail as the issues in question aren't really addressed, and it can be pretty helpful at answering frequent questions.

    Mansewerz addresses stringing machines in general. Thus, I think Mansewerz should create a new thread (possible title: "Guide to Buying a Stringing Machine") and that'll better serve the forum.
     
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    Levels of Stringing machines

    Sent to new thread.
     
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    Good idea. I'll go make another thread. Sorry for the hijack.
     
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    w00t w00t that's my room in the x-2 pic!!!
     
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    plucked it right off photostringer
     
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    :p


    I'll only demand 50% of the profits from this thread since you're such a nice dude.
     
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    we may just have a deal
     
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    I think the point of reference is critical for any "authoritative" statement. Can you please share your personal stringing machine experiences? Maybe let us know your history in terms of actually using different machines. Thanks in advance.
     
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    what are you looking for exactly?
     
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    A straight answer.
     
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    to what question?
     
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    I think Il mostro wants to know what you have strung with.

    I can answer for you : ) : Prince 3000, Alpha Revo, Prince Neos.

    Correct, iplay?
     
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    yes but add an old ektalon in there, and i am gona borrow a dropweight soon just to try it
     
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    Quite the $%#ing authority -- "be all, end all" my a**.
     
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  27. iplaybetter

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    we are looking at atleast 100 on each of those
    wich is more tahn you if i remember, and more than manswerz
    and do remember i am 14
     
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    Give the guy a break. He is trying to do a good thing here. There is no one on the board who has done everything. Maybe with some help instead of criticism, it would lead to developing the thread to becoming everything you want. I am pretty impressed that at 14, he is trying this to improve the board.:)
     
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    I would say for it to be the end all be all. more info would be needed. Maybe link to a X-2 vs klipp thread (or create a new new one) especially considering your limited experience in dealing with these types of machines.

    Also, the Yellow font although a nice idea, is very hard to see on the white background. nd I maybe wrong here but dont you want your title to read Inquiry (any process that has the aim of augmenting knowledge, resolving doubt, or solving a problem.) and not Inquery

    All in all good attempt, but needs some work IMO to be considered for Sticky status.
     
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    Wow dude calm down,no need to attack with the curse words.Especially a 14 year old such as iplay that has good intentions.If you want, you can make your own thread since you are an authority on these topics.
     
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    I would really like to hear from someone who has extensively used both the X-2 and the Klippermate. Then we might get an authoritive review of both machines and an educated result. Until then, lets accept that both do a decent job of producing consistently good, replicable stringbeds.
     
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    LOL. I'll have to search for that one - sounds interesting! :)
     
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    Thank you for the effort here. I do have a question however. Do you have personal experience with Eagnas customer service or are you parroting others? If you do not have personal experience I would suggest that you not voice an opinion on that subject.

    Thanks

    JN
     
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    I don't know about anyone else on this Thread but I personally owned two Eagnas pro stringers. The service was good but one must be patient with Victor's english.

    As my racquet count grew and grew, the Eagnas stringers were just not durable enough for me. However for the average home stringers, it will make a good first stringer or a decent upgrade from a drop weight.

    Just my opinion. Thanks.
     
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