Discussion in 'Racquets' started by La Bomba, May 16, 2005.
The best wilson player's racquet for you
Uhh...you're slightly missing one racquet there. Check the sig and you'll see what it is.
ohhh dang it. Sorry didn't think of that.
that's cool, no harm done.
I haven't played with all of these Wilsons, so its really impossible to say which would be the best for me. I will say that I would probably like them all in different ways.
A number of years ago when I was searching for a new racket, mainly because my Prince (which I used for many years) had been discontinued for 5 years, I demoed many from different makers. I choose the Wilson 6.1 Classic, but when I went to buy it, I was told it was being discontinued. Instead of buying that one, I waited and went with the HPS 6.1, which had just come out. I thought the HPS 6.1 suited my game very well. When the n61 95 (16x18) came out, I tried it and liked the extra pop it provided, so I went with that.
I would really like to try all the others in your list.
What...no ROK????? Oh well, it wouldn't win the poll anyway but it was certainly a "players" racket.
Stars and stripes all the way, baby!
I have the PS 85, HPS 6.1 (16X18) and Tour 90. I like them all. I can't decide which is best, they are all good depending on how I feel. Can I vote for all three?
I'm a fan of Wilson Sting Midsize
Sorry, but the Pro Staff Tour 95 is NOT a player's racquet. It's way too light. More of a tweener IMHO. Perhaps that's why he didn't think of it when he made his list?
Yes, the ROK should be on the list as it's indeed one of Wilson's more recent player's racquet (although now discontinued).
HPS 6.0 is my favorite.
I think in terms of value for money, I vote for Sting SC mid.
The Ultra 2, Sting, PS Classic 6.1, and PS 85, everybody used those back in the 80s. Then the Profile and Hammer...
Since when is 11 and a half ounces too light? Would you care to explain?
no less of a tennis player because of your racket aj.
Frankly, I find anything under 12 oz. to be too light. But it's not just the static weight, it's also the weight distribution, the way the beam is constructed, how it swings, and how stiff it is. I demo-ed the PS Tour 95 and found it to be too light, too stiff, too tinny, and felt more like a tweener than a player's racquet IMHO. Really too bad because I really wanted to like that racquet since I was thinking of moving from the PS 6.0 95 to the PS Tour 95. Very disappointing. I thought the PS 6.0 95 had much more feel, control, and pace on the serve.
Well, whatever... thank you for explaining. It's obvious we'll never agree.
BTW, the PS Rok is only .3 oz. heavier ll.
True, but like I said, it's not just the static weight. Try playing with the ROK. It feels much heavier. I also thought about switching to the ROK (in fact, almost bought a few of them), but in the end decided it was too heavy compared to my PS 6.0 95. The ROK swings quite a bit heavier than the PS 6.0 95 IMHO. Because of that and its denser string pattern, it hits a heavier ball than the PS 6.0 95.
hps 6.0 95
PS 6.0 95, hands down. Not to stiff or soft, good heft, lots of control on volleys, great spin, good handle shape, none of the hollow, tinny sound or feel of some newer frames. It 's just hard to beat if you can handle it's 12+ oz. weight.
I don't really classify the Profile as a "player's racket". It was much to powerful. I thought it was design for players who could not generate enough power. Didn't it start the trend of high power rackets, "cheat sticks"? I recall basically all rackets before that were player's rackets.
I was surprised to see Jim Pugh used that profile racket.
#1) PS 6.0 85
#2) PS Tour 90
#3) ROK mid
These are the only 3 Wilson players frames that I've ever really liked. As you can see I prefer midsize frames, but if I had to play with a midplus it would be the PS 6.0 95.
Wow that's a name from the past I've totally forgotten about. I never knew any of th pro's used it.
Are you sure it wasn't a PS 6.0 85" with a paint job? :wink:
It is possible, but definitely not Wilson PS85. I was standing really close at the side of the court (a late night match at Cow palace in San Francisco back in 1986). It looked like a wide body and the frame color of the Profile.
I bet most of us havent tried all the racquets so we are voting one how gaudio...federer and sampras use them
Actually, I've played with all of them except the 18x20 versions.
BTW, it looks like the PS 6.0 95 is still ahead of the rest.
ProStaff Tour 90 - simply a great racquet ... with Luxilon Big Banger Original and a rubber band this racquet simply has all the characteristics I need.
Hey, where is Torch and Trance???
JKidding. I voted for PS6.0 95. That's the best Wilson 'FOR ME". Interesting poll.
So far the crown goes to the 6.1 category.
PS 6.0 85 = 18
90 (PS+N) = 21
6.1 (Classic+HPS+N) = 33
PS 6.0 95 = 22
Well, if you're going to categorize them that way, then the 6.0 series is WAAAAAYY ahead.
6.0 (85 + 95 + T90 +N90) = 62
(Yes, the T90 and N90 are the 2nd and 3rd generations of the PS 6.0)
I've been using the Pro Staff 6.1 racket line since the early 90s and went from the Classic 6.1 to the HPS6.1 and now the nCode 6.1. I have to say that I like the HPS the best because it has the best combination of characteristics like feel, stability, control, and power. The Classic was a bit too harsh on the arm because of an overly stiff hoop and the nCode has too much power and not enough feel. I bought a pair of the nCodes (got suckered into buying new technology) but still go back to my faithful HPS6.1 when I play a big match.
1. Pro Staff Midsize(St. Vincent)
2. Pro Staff Tour 90
3. Pro Staff Classic 6.1 95
4. nCode 90
I have not hit with the modern Pro Staff Midsize yet, so I cannot say anything about it. The St. Vincent Pro Staff is stiff like the Pro Staff Classic, but it plays very crisp, and boy did I love volleying with it! The Pro Staff Classic is very stiff, not as stiff as the St. Vincent, yet it plays solid. The Pro Staff Tour 90 reminded me of the St. Vincent feel(that is why they made it for Sampras), but it is more forgiving due to the larger head. The nCode 90, although the same mold as the Tour 90, felt much more flexible than the other three, and it was probably the most powerful midsize racquet I have ever hit with, along with the Yonex RDX 500 Mid.
Well, I had to vote for the PS TOur 90. It's what I'm using now...
Actually I really like my Sting SC (Silicon Carbide) Mid (85). Too bad it's too old to be listed and too bad it's discontinued ...
It would be (nearly) perfect if Wilson has something with
1. Pro Staff 85 touch/feel and control;
2. Pro Staff Tour 90 pop for overhead and spin potential;
3. nSix-One Tour 90 weight and power.
I know I'm too greedy.
Wilson does indeed have this racquet. It's called the ProStaff 6.0 90, but Wilson only gives them to Roger Federer to use.
Isn't the PS Tour 90 a 6.0 si? I see it there on the racket shaft.
Just curious. Please clarify. Thanks.
BTW, my PST90 is probably Asian version. It weights 315g. (11.1 oz) and 8.8 pts HL.
Yes, it is. But the PS Tour 90 is NOT a PS 6.0 90. It has nothing to do with the swing index. It's a matter of how the racquet is made, the weight, balance, the composition, and the feel. The PS 6.0 90 is the PS 6.0 Original, just like the 85 and 95 versions that we all know and love. It contains only 80% braided graphite and 20% kevlar. No HyperCarbon like the PS Tour 90 does, and no HyperCarbon and nanotechnology like the nSix-One Your does.
Anyway, so, what the real function of the Hypercarbon? Is it better (or worse) than Kevlar?
Sorry to be askin' again. ... And gotta go pick up my kid from school. Will check your reply later.
Generally (from my experience) hypercarbon rackets are stiffer, and thus the sticks transmit your power from your arm to the racket heads more effectively.
Yes, HyperCarbon definitely stiffens a frame and gives it more power which is it's intended function and why Wilson adds it to almost all of their frames these days in order to compete with things like Titanium, LiquidMetal, Triple Threat, Hot Melt, etc.
However, it also has the side effect of taking away feel, and thus, some control. The added stiffness also makes it harsher, and thus, less arm friendly. That's why many people say that the PS 6.0 (which has no HyperCarbon) has much better feel and control than most racquets in the HPS line, including the nCodes, which also contain HyperCarbon.
this is an old thread and i am bumping it up in case any else wants to comment and vote.
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