Been using them since may. I have some lead tape under each grip. That's it. For some reason, this size, weight, and balance has been perfect for me. It's knocked out my Radical Tours, Ti Radicals, and my Prince POG's. I waited 6 months to make sure before I sold them. Now they are mostly gone. One TiRad mid left. Love the feel, the control, and the looks of them. It's nice when you find a stick that just seems right. Good luck to everyone in your quest.