The Church of Polystringism-- Alidisperanza's PT Thread

Discussion in 'Strings' started by alidisperanza, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. mixedmedia

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    In the BHB7 review above, it says it was strung on a Gamma, right? So was the machine referenced in the first post just for the links included in that post? (I didn't pay attention to the brand of machine much in your posts before I decided to go on a quest for one.)
     
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  2. alidisperanza

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    No, I was covering lessons for someone at a club and used theirs. It was a poorly maintained Gamma 7500 els. Overall, not a pleasant experience (mostly due to the poor maintenance).

    If you're looking for a machine, I'm going to say buyer beware if you're thinking of getting an eagnas. There are a few good things and a few bad things:

    Pros:
    -Dirt cheap in comparison
    -Great 6 point mounting system
    -Sturdy build (heavy as hell)

    Cons:
    -TERRIBLE customer service
    -Beware of their electric machines
    -Heavy as hell
    - You get what you pay for

    The lock-out I have has served me well over the years but what recently really turned me off was their customer service. If you do decide to go for an Eagnas machine, I'd say stick to mechanical. You can't really screw up parts too badly and should your lock-out ever be stringing at the wrong tension, you can calibrate it yourself.
     
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    Please come to IN and play me. Best of 5 :evil: :)
     
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    I agree, I started with an Eagnas. Just a tip: if you're considering between the cone-lock clamp bases and the spring-assisted ones, go for the machine with the spring ones straight away. I paid like 400 for my machine, and then Victor wanted another 200 just for the stupid clamp base upgrade later. If that's half the price of the machine, what's the quality like? Yeah, not a fair argument I know. It's just a ripoff.
     
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  5. alidisperanza

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    Yeah, I'm not particularly happy with the way they do business. It is what it is though and you have every right to go somewhere else.

    The closest I've ever been to IN was when I played Beach Tennis Nationals in Chicago. You're welcome to come this year!



    On another note. I want to get my hands on another set of BHB7. If this string keeps playing the way it did last night, I might just have to buy a reel.
     
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    Yeah I did go somewhere else: to Silent Partner who doesn't make stringers anymore haha.


    I do want some more myself. I also want to see what it's like with a poly cross.
     
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  7. alidisperanza

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    It's official. I've sold all modern non-radical frames with the exception of 1 POG. Sad, Sad, day...:cry:
     
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    Thanks for the machine advice. I got some in that sub-forum as well. I'm going with one of my coach's two used Gamma 602 FCs, which will include a stand, but not diamond clamps, just standard ones, for $250. Good deal? (And sorry for the mini-jack.)
     
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    Is that the progression dropweight with flying clamps? Once you get used to them and learn to string properly, dropweights are among the most natural stringers. They're a great place to learn and if you're a stringer on a budget they'll get the job done. My only gripe is the clamps. I can't stress enough how important a good set of clamps is and how important a good awl is. They'll change the way you string. A good starting clamp is also a great tool and could be a big help at 30.00 (check tw, they sell a gamma one cheap)
     
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    Nope, it's the drop-weight Progression with fixed clamps. :) And thanks for the tip on where to get a cheap starting clamp.
     
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    I just looked for the clamp, and I couldn't find it. Could you post the link if you have a minute later? Thanks.
     
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    Wow, apparently they don't sell it anymore :(
     
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    Today's Swag.

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    I have a YT Rad Pro free to string up, any poly requests?
     
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    I am a Propulse 3 man myself. Only shoe that comes in sizes larger than 12 that actually are still fitted properly. With the P2, I had to use a 13. With the P3, I can get away with a 12.5. With Barricades, I have to use a 14, and my feet still scream in pain during the break-in. Babs are already broken in. Hmm....
     
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    With my shoddy footwork, I'm notorious for ripping through shoes in multiple places. I always get my 6mo warranty, haha. One time, I ripped a pair of "durable" NewBalance shoes in an hour and a half. Anyways, once I found the barricades, there was no going back. Stability and durability galore. Afterwards I had a brief love affair with the pink rafa Ballistecs. They played great and were super comfortable as well. Nike then haaaad to change and made the 2.3s narrow. I still have a lime green pair that I can barely walk around in without wincing. Eventually, I was convinced to get the Red PP3 and loved them. Great balance in the shoe, I stick to the ground, and they last me more than 2 months (actually about 3). Newest ones are green... nuff said.

    Somewhere in that mix I acquired a pair of vapor 7s... light, comfortable, a little bit tough on clay but I broke the "flywire" inside within 2.5 weeks.

    Lets hope this pair lasts as well as the red ones
     
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  17. mixedmedia

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    Barricades are where it's at, man. I love adidas in general. Quality stuff.
     
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    And Yonex SuperGrap. After a few minutes of break in, it is so comfy, and it is the best to wrap.
     
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  19. mixedmedia

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    BHB7/SS. Or have you done something similar?
     
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    Oh man, thanks for checking though. Any other good place to get one?
     
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  21. alidisperanza

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    From what I heard, I actually missed the crummy run (6s?). Graps are my favorite as of right now although I touched a Pacific grip the other day and seemed to like it. I'll try to hit a few with my friends' frame tomorrow.

    I'm still working on the full bed of Bhb7 since it's my first time using it. I want to get a full feel for how the string plays by its self before I start hybriding and going crazy. I can definitely put that on the list for later though. The only advantage I can forsee is that the silverstring is smooth. Perhaps less friction.
     
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    I was going to go all religious based on the title but it is you Ant.

    I saw your vid and would rate you a 2.0 but keep up the good work. You gonna play more tennis this outdoor season?
     
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    Babolat Tonic/ WeissCannon SilverString

    String: Babolat Tonic/ WeissCannon SilverString
    Frame(s): Microgel Radical MP
    Tension: 60/54.

    Aborted due to selling of the racquet : (


    Trying my favorite S+V setup with a bit more quality.

    Stringing:
    Took my sweet time and no problems at all. Originally I had planned to string the Tonic at 58 but forgot to drop tension from 60 while calibrating my machine. Oh well, it'll be super crisp.

    Groundies:
    Control, Control, Control. I haven't played a stringbed this stiff in quite a while! Very stiff stringbed allows me to put the ball wherever I want it, which is really nice :) Feel is not terrible but not quite what my perception of gut is. You see the gut, you can feel the gut, but the response is still a bit too stiff for my liking. I think I'll be paying for my mistake on this one since the stringbed doesn't really look like it's going to drop in tension any time soon. I hope it'll break in. :( 57 on the mains is looking real good for next adventure.

    Will hit more tonight.

    Serving:
    Again, the key here is control. Stringing this tight in this frame lets me put the ball anywhere in the box. The big disadvantage is that there's a monster lack of power. Perhaps it was colder outside and I didn't really warm up but I don't really see a serve above 105 on this frame-- and that's really really pushing it. I'll try to get some numbers tonight with a speed gun. Didn't get a chance to test out slice but spin is positive too though the action on the ball is not exactly like BHB7.

    Volleys:
    Still need to play more.

    Tension maintenance:
    It's good quality gut and Silverstring... I'm expecting nothing but the best. Unfortunately for me, the string bed didn't loosen up at all overnight/ over my hit :(

    Durability:
    TBD

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    I expect nothing but the best of commentary! Indeed, I can only aspire to one day surpass the Jolly 3.5 all time.

    Re: outside, I think I'm going to have to-- the wallet is taking a beating paying for court time but my knee isn't letting me hit sub 60deg. hopefully it'll resolve.
     
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    I hope your knee feels better soon! (For your sake mostly, but we would benefit too.) :)

    As for the BHB7/SS, I was going with the less friction angle too, but it was just a thought. Is your list in the second post an accurate reflection of what you have?
     
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    Yes, unfortunately I only have 1 set on hand for some of them. I've been playing full beds mostly to get a true feel for the strings I haven't tried.
    I strung the tonic/ss special because I'll have a crack at a speed gun tomorrow :)
     
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  27. mixedmedia

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    Shouldn't you have gone all gut for the gun? And remember to push of and extend that arm through. ;-)
     
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    Haha, that would be a waste of 30.00. Last I remember, I didn't like a full bed of gut; it was just too powerful. This combination is something that I would normally play
     
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  29. mixedmedia

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    Yeah, I figured. :)

    Hey, if you happen to want to get some other polys to try, I'm curious what you think of ItS or B and a Scorp/ItS or B hybrid.
     
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    Bhbr 17

    String: Big Hitter Blue Rough
    Frame(s): YT Radical Pro
    Tension: 50 reference

    After hitting the BHB7 and liking it, I figured I'd play-test its little brother side by side. This is my first time using a twisted string.

    Stringing:
    I did NOT enjoy stringing this frame. I can only imagine what a full bed would be like in a prestige mid... I don't know whether it's the twisted profile, or the nature of the string but this stuff seems to get caught on everything and anything in the vicinity. Not to mention, for a soft string it has a heck of a lot of coil memory. Every time I turned around it seemed to have cork-screwed itself up. That, and my fingers now are sore from fanning-- waah.

    Ok, on to a more normal take: The string is a bit of a contradiction to me. It feels surprisingly soft if you try to bend it loose but stiff as PHT when under tension. A bit of a pain in the butt to finagle with blocked holes. I also noticed that at 50lbs pull on my lockout, it seemed to stretch quite a bit. Weaving crosses is fairly easy but fanning them makes a terrible sound. I'd put it on par with pulling dry gut :(.

    Groundies:
    Damnit, the pain in the butt stringing was worth it. BHBR hits really nicely as a fresh frame. I mean, REALLY nicely! Spin is generous although power isn't monumental (that's ok for me). RHS is a key here and when kept steady and fast, balls literally never go out. I found myself thinking uh oh, that one's ou...hmm, line. The gentleman with whom I was hitting with was shocked that so many balls were able to clip the line consistantly. Heck, I was surprised! Feel is a touch stiffer or crisper than Big Hitter Black 7 (which I hit predominantly today) but not necessarily uncomfortable; just different.

    Update: This string is definitely a spin monster if you have the appropriate RHS. I was shocked at how many balls dive-bombed into the line when I thought they were going to go at least a foot long. Hitting flat is pretty solid too since there's always some measure of spin on the ball. Slices are above average and benefit from more side to side movement than sitting super low. If I carved under the ball, I was able to hook slices a bit.

    Serving:
    Not terribly fond of flat serves but spin serves definitely benefit here. The pop is there but the feel isn't among my preferred. Slice and twist serves are probably the strongest benefactors. The ball really moves side to side.

    Volleys:
    It does the job-- balls come off the stringbed with snap. If you slice down on the ball, you can get a nice measure of backspin to make your volleys stay low or die on the court. I had a fun time hitting drop shots with this setup. The feel isn't necessarily there but the backspin is just plain silly.

    Tension maintenance:
    Shocking as it sounds, I was able to notice a difference over the course of 2.5 hours of play. From the get go, the ball was blasting into the court and control was really top notch due to the spin. Towards the end of play, I noticed those shots starting to go long, even if it was only a foot or so. Also, the strings started to shift a touch. Don't get me wrong, control is still great but it's not quite what it was before the string bed settled.

    Durability:
    Not looking great. The strings are half notched after 2.5 hours of play.

    Edit: You've got to be freaking kidding me... popped just under the 3 hour mark. Not happy.

    Final thoughts: For those that like the crisp response of tour bite, and lux, I think this is a great alternative. The string inherently is softer than the both but still has the same bite. The ball simply drops out of the air. Having said that, I don't necessarily agree with a lot of the posters that think BHBR is softer than Black 7. The string may be soft, but the response of the string is simply not the same. It's much crisper, or less elastic-- you choose. Black7 simply pockets the ball more and in my opinion, is more comfortable. The vertical spin is better with BHBR but the ball penetration is better with B7.

    Groundstrokes: 4/5 This is definitely a baseliner setup.
    Serves: 4/5
    Volleys: 3.5/5
    Spin: 5/5 Shining point here
    Power: 4/5. It's there if you need it but it comes more from the crispness of the string
    Comfort: 3.5/5 Comfortable, but at this tension, I wasn't terribly impressed. Towards the end of play, my wrist started to bother me.
    Tension: 3.5/5 It's still good but the playing characteristics have changed.
    Durability:3/5

    30.5/40 overall

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    Updates to Becker Bomber, Gaucho and Tonic threads, BHB7 and BHBR. I also should have another hitting video up with a more credible hitting partner up soon. Enjoy :)
     
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    Are you attending the SB Tennis Alum FunFest at the end of March?
     
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    No, sorry. I'm grateful for the education SBU gave me but I'm not too keen on going back haha Undergraduate and Masters was enough! Plus, all my friends from SBU have since left and we keep in touch other ways.
     
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    What's your edu background? You have a Masters in chem, yes?
     
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    Interesting. I ended up having the opportunity to play many years ago (for a different coach than the current coach) at SB with some really good players (some of whom are members on this board) and many of them have made the effort to attend these Tennis reunions in the past and really enjoyed them. My parents still live in the area but I haven't made it to one of them yet either. Maybe this year will be the first.
     
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    BS in Neuroscience and Italian. Masters in Biology/ Teaching

    Well, it's a complicated situation but I had my opportunity as a walk on my sophmore year. I used to hit with a few of the players and they encouraged and recommended me to "try out." Anyways, since I wasn't scouted, I primarily knew the guys and girls off the court and by that margin, I don't have the luxury of an invitation to the sports functions. In the end it was really my pride and stubbornness that hindered me.
     
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    Oh, I misunderstood-- I thought you had played for a little bit but then quit or got kicked off the team over a disagreement with the coach (a story my friends and I know all too well). Didn't realize you never actually played for the team. Got it now.
     
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    Basically. The issue came about the day of the inaugural tournament; how convenient for the coach!
     
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    Phew, finally finished off my current round of testing. Durabilities to be updated as the strings pop.

    Potential plans for the future:

    -BHBR/ OG Micro. -- I think this will soften the bed just the ammt I need to really like this string
    -B7/ Bomber.

    Any suggestions?
     
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    As I said, I'd replace the Bomber with SS, for a BHB7/SS setup, unless you think the Bomber is better as cross.
     
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    I'd love to see a review on a BHB7/Iontec hybrid.
     
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    That'd be great. I think I suggested Scorp/ItS or B somewhere too.
     
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    Ok, I'll try to get my hands on some iontec and some more Ss. I'm down to my last half set for the latter

    Edit: Sets of Iontec on the way thanks to Mamba's courtesy free shipping. I'm a bit bummed that they're out of stock on the 15.00 gut. I was going to buy a few sets.
     
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    Yeah, the free shipping is great! :)
     
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    Ugh. Problems. I'm starting to think this frame is a 16g exclusive. Popped Big Hitter Blue Rough 17 in just under 3 hours. I understand BHBR runs thin to begin with but holy frijoles-- I barely got into a rhythm today and BAM--PoP

    What I'm very pleased to say is that it was a very easy transition to go to Black 7 from there. In fact. It definitely confirmed that I prefer the B7 to BHBR. The strings are both very conducive to spin but the B7 gives me a bit more pocketing and feel.
     
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  46. mixedmedia

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    Dang, you are destroying strings!
     
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  47. alidisperanza

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    As soon as I get the iontec in I'll string a frame full and the hybrid you asked for as well. If this popping trend continues though, I may have to start hybriding with OGSM again :(
     
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  48. all_backhand

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    Sweet. When you tested B7 which gauge did you use?
     
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    Pretty much all of my recent testing has been courtesy of TenFanLA so it's all been 17g. The iontec I ordered is both 16 and 17. Don't get me wrong, my go to is 17 but I think Torres pinned it on the head, the B7 might just be a better play in 16 [for my wallet]
     
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    Well, I'll be interested in your opinion of ItS (or did you go with B?) in full bed and hybrid. I don't think anyone has tried to hybrid it yet.

    16g may be what you have to go to...
     

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