THE CONCISE HISTORY OF TENNIS by Károly Mazák from 1877 to 2009

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  1. Carlo Giovanni Colussi

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    http://www.theconcisehistoryoftennis.com/


    homepage of Károly Mazák’s book titled

    The concise history of tennis

    from 1877 to 2009

    In my own view the format of Károly Mazák’s book is perfect :

    One year = one page
    so everyone can all visualize in one go.

    The great added values of this book are
    a) the numerous information :
    - on the pre-1919 years
    - on the professional circuit
    b) a complete (from the very beginning to our modern days) tennis history of the lady players
    c) World rankings both for men and women from the very beginning (1877) until 2009.

    GREAT GREAT WORK by Károly (elegos7)

    BEAUTIFUL WORK

    If you have a little more than $16.99 to spend
    (the book costs $16.99 and some bank charges are needed to transfer the money on Károly’s account)

    then BUY this wonderful book

    at http://www.theconcisehistoryoftennis.com/.

    BUY IT

    BUY IT

    BUY IT

    BUY IT
     
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  2. SgtJohn

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    Hello Karoly,

    Congratulations for this book! I hope it will be very successful and will be a new reference for people willing to know about tennis history in more depth.

    More recent members of this forum might not know it but for many of us the first detailed knowledge we got of the 1877-1918 era came entirely from a file that Karoly compiled and that he was kind enough to share.

    Could you send me in private messaging the data I need to order a copy?
    Many thanks!

    Jonathan
     
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  3. pc1

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    It's a fantastic book. Anyone who loves tennis history should buy it.
     
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  4. Carlo Giovanni Colussi

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    Hello Jonathan,
    yeah Károly and AndrewTas made a pretty huge wonderful work and are very generous.
    I bought 5 copies of Károly's book.
    To contact Károly get to http://www.theconcisehistoryoftennis.com/contact.htm
     
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  5. egn

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    My only question is for example looking at the 2009 page why is Novak Djokovic listed at 6th?
     
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  6. Carlo Giovanni Colussi

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    Károly wrote in page 3 of his book :
    "Even after 2000, when tennis journalists have given up compiling rankings, I have modified the official computer rankings, giving more weight to performances in major events and team competitions, taking into account ATP, WTA and ITF awards as well."

    He considers that major events aren't given their due (even though now a win in a Grand Slam tourney counts more than in previous years) and I agree with him.
    I don't know if Djokovic deserves such a low ranking as 6th
    but it is true that the Serbian didn't make very well in the great events in 2009 :
    His best performance in great events was a single semifinal (at the USO).
    He only reached the quarters at the Australian and the British.
    At the French, the ATP World Tour Finals, the Davis Cup
    his performances were pretty poor.
    At the end of 2009 Djoko was 3rd in the ATP rankings thanks to his performances in Masters 1000 and 500 ATP tourneys
    but in majors he wasn't on a par with Federer, Nadal or Del Potro.
     
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  7. elegos7

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    As Carlo kindly quoted above from the introduction to my book, I am of the opinion that too few points are given to Grand Slam winners.
    The ratio today is only 2 to 1, and I used a ratio of 3 to 1. I have devised an objective point system and used it to rank players after 2000.

    If you look at the years before 2000, when tennis experts still made rankings apart from the computer, all of them awarded more weight to Grand Slam events than today. I want to continue this tradition.
     
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  8. CyBorg

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    Looks great. I'm not following what the point system is and for what purposes - to rank players in a particular year or all-time?

    I can't seem to find info on the length of the book and where to buy it.
     
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  9. newmark401

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    "Looks great. I'm not following what the point system is and for what purposes - to rank players in a particular year or all-time?

    "I can't seem to find info on the length of the book and where to buy it."

    The book is nearly 150 pages long. You can contact the author by e-mail (click on the "Contact" link on the main page and you'll find his e-mail address there).
     
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  10. Carlo Giovanni Colussi

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    Hello CyBorg,

    Károly is wiser than many of us (including me) because he doesn't compare players of different eras
    considering that even ranking players in a single year is already such a difficult task
    so all his rankings are "full year" rankings from 1877 to 2009
    (there is no all-time rankings at all)
    that is 133 world rankings for as many years.
    Given that each year is summarized in a single page you can guess that the book's length is slightly superior to 133 pages :
    With some introduction and ending you have in all exactly 143 pages.
     
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  11. CyBorg

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    Thanks. Looks like a good product.
     
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  12. Q&M son

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    Great!!! :)
     
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  13. Q&M son

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    Buy it, great book certainly, many passion and work on it.
     
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  14. Pete27

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    Hello Carlo,
    name of book looks good but link doesn´t work now.
    Don´t you have other yearbooks of tennis (I heard that "World of tennis" was excellent book).
     
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  15. dje31

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    Well, he's Slovak, or Czech, so that's a plus in my book.
     
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  16. Xavier G

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    Any book that sheds light on the great players of the past is worth a read in my eyes. I would most be interested in the 1910-39 time period with great names like McLoughlin, Tilden, Johnston, the French, Von Cramm, Vines, Nusslein, Kozeluh, Perry, Budge and the like.
     
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  17. elegos7

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    Hi, I am the author.
    My name is indeed Czech, but my ancestors moved to Hungary nearly 200 years ago, so I am already a Hungarian.
    But I remained impartial throughout the book, mentioned only players and events that really belonged to the top in a particular year, regardless of their nationality.
     
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  18. newmark401

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    The book in question is a great read for those interested in the ranking and classification of male and female players from the very beginning of lawn tennis right up to the present day.
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  19. KJACK55

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    Know it's late days here, but as a new member of the forum can anyone tell me where I can get the book or contact Karoly. I'm working on some historic replays and I'd like to be as exact as possible.
    Thanks
    Kevin
     
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  20. elegos7

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    Hi,
    I am the author.
    I will try to fix the homepage as soon as possible.
    If you are in a hurry, you can contact me through a p.m.

    Karoly
     
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  21. KJACK55

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    Karoly's ebook

    Karoly,

    No real urgency. I'm doing some replays, but I could always replay the replay if I feel the need. Would like to get your ebook, though.
    Thanks
    Kevin
     
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  22. KJACK55

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    Hi, Karoly
    I'm at KEVINMCMURRAY30@YAHOO.COM
    Whatever you can do is fine. I can send you money or whatever if you want to email them a few at a time.

    Got a buddy in Italy, Gian Luca, also interested. I'm US based.

    Take care
    Kevin
     
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