The Cost of a Slam

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  1. SStrikerR

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    In particular, the cost of the AO. Twice, Nadal has participated in the final of the AO, and both times he has had a prolonged absence due to injury that year. As well as that, djokovic's magical 2011 form was drained out by the slugfest known as the AO 2012 final. Is the AO really worth killing the rest of your year for?
     
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    I agree, there is nothing more harmful to a player than slow hardcourts. The rallies are longer, and add to that the impact of a 5-setter. It's definitely not a good way to start the year. That is why its important to skip Indian Wells and Miami. No tennis in Feb AND March is the ideal off-season.
     
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    I don't think Djokovic's current form has anything to do with the AO final. He had a great 2011, it's not right to compare his following (or even previous) seasons to that one. 2012 has been a great year for him as well. And Nadal, well, I have no idea about the whats, whys, whens, and hows of his injuries.
     
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    Djokovic just looked bored between Australia and Monte Carlo.
     
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    Nadal 2009: semi and final 5-setters at AO, skipped Wimbledon.
    Nadal 2010: QF of AO (retired hurt), won 3 slams in a row.
    Nadal 2011: QF of AO (injured), made the next 5 slam finals in a row (won 2).
    Nadal 2012: 6 hour final at AO, skipped US Open.
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    Hey heres an idea!! Speed up the damn court!! Man I miss rebound ace
     
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    How bout even slower clay courts?
     
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    Although there is increased risk of slipping on clay your body really takes a beating during a 5+ hour grindfest on a slow hardcourt.
    We should do Rafa a favor and speed the AO way up, maybe even so its faster than the USO
     
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    Clay is the most forgiving surface in the world. Grass and hardcourt are both more damaging to the body than clay. Even if rallies are long on clay (about as long as the Australian Open) the pressure put on the body is far less. And in Rafa's case, he's never had a match at Roland Garros as long as his 2009 AO semi, 2009 AO final, 2012 AO final. I hope they fasten up the AO.
     
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    Rebound Ace wasn't a fast court though.
     
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    2012 Indian Wells semifinals Roger Federer def Rafael Nadal 6-4 6-3:twisted:
     
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    And then Rafa retired hurt at Miami the following week. And he said he shouldn't have even played Miami.
     
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    I know why he said that: he's a troll
     
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    less than 30 grand obviously
     
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    feds won it four times and hes going not to bad
     
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    I think the AO are a little too early in the season (not enough time for preparation) but he could just as well have a break after the AO skipping the spring hardcourt season (miami, indian wells). players used to skip the AO but you just don't skip a slam anymore
     
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  18. dominikk1985

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    yes. and agassi won them till he was about 50 yo:D. they are early in the season but if you have a smart schedule it can be done.
     
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    Federer is the GOAT.
     
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    He wins Miami without losing a set :-?
     
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    Winning the AO always have been some sort of curse for the rest of the year. Djokovic 2008, Nadal 2009, Federer 2010, Djokovic 2012, none of them won another slam in the year after they won that AO.

    The exceptions were the completely dominant crazy seasons, i.e. Federer 2004, 2006, 2007, and Djokovic 2011.
     
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    Yes he did.
     
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