The Donald

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  1. bluetrain4

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    First 2.5 sets were as you'd expect. Simon more consistent, more experienced, better point constructor, and DY making too many errors at bad times. DY comes back from 0-3 down in third with the typical comeback formula of some timely good play mixed with his opponent's untimely bad play. Simon seemed to be weirdly unnerved at that point and the first six games of the fourth set he just sort of lost it (in terms of focus, not that he got angry or freaked out or anything); made more errors than normally -- and at bad times. But, again, DY actually did do something to create some of those errors. DY said after the match that once he was down 0-3 he decided that if he were to go down, he'd go down swinging. But, he really didn't start blasting from everywhere. In fact, he had quite a few grinding points, where he was patient and played great defense. He won some impressive long points. So, he gets up 5-1 in the fourth, but loses one break, and ends up winning 6-4. The fifth set was a back and forth affair with a lot of service breaks. Spotty play by both players, but good play too. It wasn't clear who would win until the very end.

    And, again, I don't know why Simon came so unfocused after he lost his 0-3 lead in the third. It happens, and surely its happened to him before. He was still up 2 sets to 1, yet he just seemed unfocused in the 4th until it was too late.
     
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  2. nytennisaddict

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    Just to add, in the post match interview, he said he was getting his "*ss kicked" so he was just going to go down swinging and make him earn it (which I interpretted to mean he was going to grind it out)... which I found to be very mature, and atypical of younger-DY,
     
  3. bluetrain4

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    I didn't see the "make him earn it" portion of that statement in the article I read. So, when he said he was "going to go down swinging" I thought he meant being super aggressive and going for shots, which as I stated in my earlier post, isn't what he actually did - he did grind some and overall played much more patiently waiting for a chance to go for it.
     
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  4. stringertom

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    I would expect more of what we saw in the fifth set Tuesday in today's match vs Bedene. The Simon/Bedene match in Winston-Salem last week went three TBs and featured 10 service breaks before Bedene prevailed.
     
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    I saw he retired, but what did happen to him? Was it the humidity?
     
  6. stringertom

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    Wrist injury. Hoping it's not too serious.
     
  7. Vrad

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    Donald getting impatient and struggling to close out the match.
     
  8. Vrad

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    Into Round 3!

    Gotta say, quite an impressive turn around from the ridiculous lows he had hit.
     
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  9. heftylefty

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    Donald Young got the job Done!
     
  10. bluetrain4

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    Nice, methodical win. DY really needs to commit to working the point more and extending the rallies for a bit. He does much better (as do most) when he waits for his opportunities. Plus, he's quick, relatively fit, and is a good heat player. He does best when in Ferrer-light mode, which he can mix up with some closure to the net and big shots when they are there to take. He still gets into slap-happy go-for-it-early mode sometimes, which usually doesn't lead anywhere.
     
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  11. Harry_Wild

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    Into the third round! Go "The Donald!"
     
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  12. bigserving

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    Very nice effort and result from big Don.

    Somebody please tell Donald to stop bouncing the ball exactly twice before each and every serve. Mix it up and keep receivers from so easily timing his serve. Try to keep them off-balance a little.
     
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  13. stringertom

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    Troicki could be tough. He seems reborn after being routed by Fish at The Real Slam.
     
  14. bluetrain4

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    Yeah, Troicki hasn't done much this summer, but seems to be reborn at the USO, just like DY. They've only played once with Trpicki winning 6-1, 4-6, 6-1 on clay. Troicki certainly the favorite. But, if DY can grind a little and get his teeth in the match, he might have a chance. If they play on Court 17, then DY has an even better chance.
     
  15. StanTheMan

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    I don't see Young surviving Troicki saturday
     
  16. nytennisaddict

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    I normally would agree, but dy seems a new man... a 2 set comeback against the most consistent guy on tour?!!
     
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    Simon has been horrible since Wimby/DC...one win vs Seppi and losses to Youzhny, Karlovic and Bedene. That was great fight to come back from two sets and a break but Simon has not been consistent at all for two months.
     
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    Pleased to see some success, after all this time, but, a few observatsions:

    1) The incessant chest beating(I got HEART!) is bad enough, but, at least save it for when you actually WIN the match.

    2) I don't know any other player who has a worse record of consolidating service breaks, and he usually gets up 30-0 before folding and getting broken back. He also either chokes on easy shots incredibly often, or runs around his backhand to hit an inside-out forehead out by about a yard.

    3) Gotta be a little less predictable, if he hit even ONE serve up the T on 2nd serve to the ad court, I didn't see it. Every single one was the obligatory wide slice.
     
  19. jhhachamp

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    Apparently Young is now a marathon man who can wear down opponents in difficult conditions. He is about to complete another 2 set down comeback. Man, Wawrinka's draw is just silly easy to the quarters.
     
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    Easy? He has to play Young next round, who was supposed to be the next big thing. I give young a very good shot.
     
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    What a great win again. I'd vote for him
     
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  22. JRAJ1988

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    Wow what a damn comeback. He's got balls of steel (Figuratively)
     
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    Great win over the cheater.
     
  24. tennisdad65

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    I watched from the middle of the 4th set against Troicki. DY made about 9/10 passing shots when Troicki came to the net. Incredible defense.
     
  25. heftylefty

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    Donald Young. Man, this is his time of year.
     
  26. bigserving

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    Will somebody please tell Donald to please keep bouncing the ball exactly two times before each and every serve! Gotta give it up to the Don!!
     
  27. Frankc

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    Fantastic play - guts, speed afoot, smarts, and shotmaking... some of those passing shots were just gorgeous...Congrats Donald
     
  28. merwy

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    I was watching him being 2 sets down to Simon and I just assumed he lost that match. Now I turn on the tv and see that he just beat troicki!?
     
  29. nytennisaddict

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    young f'd up my draw,... but I hope he continues to do so!
     
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  30. okdude1992

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    Hey, I called it. Young to the second week. He came back from 2 sets down for the first time against Simon, then decided why not let's do it again!
     
  31. jhhachamp

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    Let's be real here...Donald Young is one of the easiest opponents you could ever hope to face in the 4th round of a major...I don't think many would disagree with this. Young has had a great run, but he has very little chance against Wawrinka.
     
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    DY, the warrior. Never thought I'd say that. He's finally putting it all together & showing some resilience in the process; wonderful job. Someone prematurely called him another American quitter after the 2nd set, predicting he would retire before the trainer came out, but he proved them wrong!
     
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    This may be true. But Young's last great run at the Open he beat Stan. Not saying it can happen again...but it can happen again.
     
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    True, but I give him a better chance of beating Stan, than Isner against Fed.
     
  35. vive le beau jeu !

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    impressive from donald... he's become "the comeback king" ! :)
     
  36. tennisaddict

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    DY is so underrated.

    Folks , remember DY got the 5th set tie breaker in 2011 3R against Stan, after being 1-2 down in sets.

    With Stan's up and down level, DY has a chance. The h2h is 1-1
     
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    And how proud I am to be proved wrong!!
     
  38. dlk

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    Was that you:D? At least you can admit when you're wrong. Good job.
     
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  39. britam25

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    Listed as 6 feet in Wiki, that seems a tad generous, lol. Shriver towered over him like she would against Schwartzman.
     
  40. West Coast Ace

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    I think that was before Stan started working with Magnus Norman. Completely different player.

    Great comeback by DY. Some of the passes were incredible. He really is fast.
     
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    What happened....

    I saw the 3rd and 4th sets...and felt that Young would beat the mentally broken Troicki.

    Did Troicki cheat in the 1st and 2nd or 5th.

    I knew he took a MTO in the 4th set.....
     
  42. bluetrain4

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    This is how he has to play. And if he stays super fit and focused, he can have moments like this, maybe stay in the top 35-55 for a couple of years. But, there's a glut of players at that level, so, again, if he can do what he's been doing - grind some, be more patient, take the right opportunity for big shots, mix in his pretty good net play. He doesn't have huge weapons, so this is what he has to do - has to be mentally committed to fight. And, it's not going to work all the time, not even against lower-ranked opponents. So, he';ll still have "down" moments. But, the goal is to overall be a better player, such that the highs are higher, the lows aren't quite as low, and he wins at a greater rate, even if he's not a world beater.

    Again, I'm not really expecting DY to suddenly become a consistent Top 20 player or anything, but he can have a few good years at consistently higher rank with consistently better results than he's ever done, if he can really stay fit, stay focused, and be willing to fight every match.
     
  43. bluetrain4

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    I want to see DY compete well and I don't know, with his momentum, maybe he has a slim chance. But, he beat pre-Stanimal Stan in 2011; before Stan was a multiple Slam winner. I don't give DY much of a chance, but I wouldn't say he has no chance. Stan hasn't looked great here, so there's that I guess.
     
  44. nytennisaddict

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    I kinda agree with you, but I'm hoping he proves me wrong, despite having wawrinka in my draw.

    gotta root for the american under dog!
     
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    Wow, Donald does it again! Reminds me to a lesser extent, Robredo's epic 2013 FO run. Wawrinka next though. Can't see the Donald doing it again.
     
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  46. Novak And The Net.

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    Haha, cannot believe Young is in the 4th round right now. I guess his yearly "great tournament" has arrived, LOOOOL!
     
  47. Garhi Shot First

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    I don't see how Stan gets by Donald, to be honest, unless the Stanimal wakes up. He's been playing with very little focus and intensity.
     
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    I don't think The Donald will sneak up on Stanislas this year. That, and having a couple of other lefties to warm him up (Ramos, Bemelmans) should make him better prepared than in '11.
     
  49. fhdowntheline

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    Whats all that celebration about ? He's made it to the 4th round, not won his 4th GS title. Agreed it was a tough comeback, but I think sometimes this can get to your psyche. Its as if all your emotional reserve was 'spent' in the heat of the occasion.

    He will now have to beat his own expectations and a player with a monster backhand (when on fire). I see a straight sets win- for Wawrinka, of course !!
     
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    Love his matches, but he will need a better first serve.
     

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