The Doping Thread

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  1. octobrina10

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    According to the ITF Tennis Anti-Doping Programme.
     
  2. Bartelby

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    So you are saying that he has not been tested.

     
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    I fully expected to read that they had turned up just has he was about to go into theatre for his appendicectomy.

    Why do you single out Nadal. When were Murray, Djokovic. Federer etc. last tested?

    Federer had this to say just 12 months ago,

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    "I just feel like we're not getting tested enough. I didn't get tested in Basel, I don't think. I didn't get tested in Paris, I don't think. I got tested here after the first match."

    "I just feel like I used to get tested more. I think I was tested 25 times in 2003, 2004. Ever since, I think it's been clearly going down."

    "Also last year when I was on that run, (winning) Dubai, Rotterdam and Indian Wells, I didn't get tested in one of those three events that I won. "

    QUOTE from Ewan Mackenna Sports Journalist of the Year 2012

    "As day broke back in August, maybe it was light that brought sense along with a line in a Telegraph blog about Murray. “He heartbreakingly couldn’t quite match the ridiculous endurance levels of Djokovic.” Whether it was a veiled comment we’ll never know, but we do know the world number one is tender to talk about his use of a pressure chamber whose chief executive says may be twice as effective at helping the body absorb oxygen as blood doping, and of which Wada said was “against the spirit of the sport”. This after Djokovic admitted on route to winning the 2013 Australian Open that he hadn’t been drug tested in six months."
     
  4. Bartelby

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    I only mention Nadal because he spends a lot of time out of the game with inumerable injuries.

    The question remains: when was the last time Nadal was drug tested?

    Moreover I don't think we have heard enough about how the biological passport is going after it became fully operable at the USO.
     
  5. Federer302

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    Federer and Nadal where both test 4-6 times in competition last year. And 7+ times out of competition.

    That is an increase out 2012.

    However 4-6 is still very low. Once a tournament min would be best. Multiple test in a tournament should not be rare either.

    Although most doping happens out of competition.

    In 2012 Fed and Nole only got out of competition test 1-3 times, that is shocking. Nadal got 7+ lol. I think they must have been paying frequent visits when he was out injured. So therefore we know the ITF did specifically target test Nadal during that 7 month break to make sure nothing dodgy was going on. And they didn't find anything.
     
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    Mallorca is an attractive destination for tourists!
     
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    What?????? I wrote that he has been tested!!!
     
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    Testing during tournaments is nearly worthless.

    Guys on sophisticated regimens are going to be clean during competition.

    Between tournaments during training is when you catch them
    And we need blood tests nit just urine samples.

    Didn't some low level player refuse a blood test for "fear of needles"? Lol
     
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    The title of the thread is very misleading :). I was hoping to get some doping tips here lol .
     
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    Troicki.

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    The Curious Case of Roger Federer
     
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    troicki and cilic both got screwed last year

    cilic didnt even have a banned substance, he had a flag of a flag show up in his system

    as for troicki he does have a phobia for needles and the lady taking the sample said he could come back the next day, the results were clean
     
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    So with one day's notice he can prepare or meditate to overcome his fear of needles? :lol:
     
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    Doping in tennis is so common. I was in a national level tournament 3 or 4 years back, and my good friend who was an official told me all the players who doped. He knew this because he is or was a competing player himself at the same tournament and saw what happened in the locker room or outside the match courts.
     
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    "I have heard of cases of the ITF covering up positive tests." --Jonas Bjorkman

    "If Agassi or Sampras ever tested positive for nandrolone, you guys in the media would never hear about it." --Marcelo Rios
     
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    Silent ban. Hmmmm

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    After his last comeback, you know who, he started to win everything. Never heard of such a comeback in history.

    If they know their way they should be testing the bully left and right. He is poised to win AO this year and he will do anything to do it right now.
     
  22. Bartelby

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    Troicki refused to take the test when ordered to do so and the doctor told him to take any request for delay elsewhere. He was fairly tried and punished.


     
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    In no way did this answer the question.
     
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    Yea, I would love to know what the Djoker and Nadal's hematocrits were when they played their 6 hour marathon AO final a few years ago. It's a shame they don't post those blood profiles publicly throughout the year.
     
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    It's funny...after that match during the trophy ceremony, I remember Rafa congratulating Djoker and saying something along the lines of "your team is doing something incredible" (mind you, djoker at this tike had that quack doctor in his box ) and Djoker shot him a cold look like "watch it buddy".

    Fast forward to 2013 after the USO final, and Djoker is congratulating Rafa and said something similar. Rafa didn't shoot him a cold look, but he sort of bent over at the waist self depreciatingly ..didn't make eye contact.

    No, this isn't hard proof of anything. ........but it sure was interesting body language.
     
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    "The 2009 AO semifinal is the best case you can make for the use of banned drugs in tennis." --Fabrice Santoro (end of 2009, he would probably have something to say about the 2012 final if asked about it, too ;))
     
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    Probably because of:

    Munoz, the former Spanish federation president, said in an interview in Madrid last week that “many times” tennis authorities have kept cases secret.

    He said he travelled with a Spanish player, whom he declined to identify, to an ATP hearing in Paris after the athlete tested positive for a drug he took to help heal a shoulder injury in the late 1990s. The men’s tour fined the player the equivalent of about 5,000 euros ($6,700) and never made the test result public, according to Munoz.


    ;)

    (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...en-hurting-tennis-as-cilic-feigns-injury.html)
     
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    can you imagine how much money is lost when rafa is not playing?

    like all sports, the big wigs want their mascots to perform at their best all the time and theres only one way to make that happen. Navratilova was the start of men using steroids.
     
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    Ooooooh. What a juice tidbit!

    Moya?, Ferrero? Damn..I'm drawing a blank on the 90s spanish players
     
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    Carlos M. naturally comes to mind as he and his game seem to fit the profile best, but don't forget Alex C., whose name was infamously associated to those of Juan-Carlos F. and Rafael N. in a French newspaper article relating to Fuentes in 2006 (le Journal du Dimanche, July 2006).
     
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    I remember reading an article a while ago that said that Corretja, Ferrero and Nadal were once investigated for doping. The writer stated that he had been told this by a high sporting figure. He also mentioned that Nadal once tested positive at the tournament in Dubai. I'll see if I can find it.

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    The original article was written in January 2008, and it has been archived by this website:

    http://dopage.over-blog.org/article-15854736.html

    I don't think either he or his paper ever ever sued. Speaking of which Journal du Dimanche weren't sued wither I guess it was just empty treats after all.
     
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    Makes sense if Nadal keeps roids in his ********* as he inhales it every point
     
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    This former pro did a redditt chat and had some interesting things to say.
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    He goes into a specific details and names names but I am not going to post that stuff as I will be called a hater and get lots of abuse. So you can read it yourself. But if you are in this thread you must be interested.

    Here are a few general quotes

     
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    MC, October 12 , 2012: ¤¤ The explosive report by the US Anti-Doping Agency, released this week, outlines documented hefty payments made by the seven-time Tour de France winner to Dr. Michele Ferrari over a 10-year period from 1996 to 2006. Ferrari provided advice on how to evade detection by anti-doping testers.¤¤
     
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