The end of an era

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  1. diggler

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    With the rise of Nadal and Djokovic, the days of Federer winning 3 slams per year are most likely over. 1 - 2 per year will be the norm.

    Federer better be careful to keep his number 1 ranking so he doesn't have to play both Nadal and Djokovic in the same tournament.
     
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  2. Challenger

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    I don't think Fed's era is completely over, but getting that elusive Grand Slam will only get harder from here on out. I still expect him to get a couple a year though. Djokovic has still yet to prove if he can be a real threat at slams, and Nadal has to show he can still improve on Hard and Grass.

    It's to be expected, though. It happens to all great players...you age, and the younger generation take over.
     
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  3. jackson vile

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    It is to soon to tell, but very very quickly Roger could be ended and GOAT erased as he has not even gotten there yet.

    That is what happens when you count your eggs before they are hached LOL:p
     
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  4. soggyramen

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    Fed was yesterday, Joker and Nadal are now honestly i think Joker will win the us open, federer will maybe win wimbledon another year or two, and nadal will win the french two or more times.

    in my opinion we have the King of Grass, Clay, and (what seems to be) the King of Hard Court in the top 3 now.

    Federer, Nadal and Djokovic
     
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  5. soggyramen

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    i like my eggs scrambled...like Federer's back hand during the Djokovic match lol
     
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  6. psamp14

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    the era of federer is not ending anytime soon...most of the tennis world still thinks he's winning the us open this year, but 2008 is more wide open for others to win slams than before....

    however federer could still win the grand slam and win the olympics if he schedules timely....and of course when he gets around #13/14 we wont be talking about any end of any eras....except maybe the end of the era of sampras holding the record for the most slams...
     
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  7. es-0

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    I like how people jump all over Federer after one loss. How many times exactly has Federer lost against Djokovic? I think after a few months and at least one Slam to decide whether Federer is gone or not.

    I think he is not.
     
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  8. Challenger

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    As much as I like Djokovic and what he's done so far, slams are still a question mark with him. In the past, he hasn't shown that he can consistently go far in them without wearing out in the end. I think he still needs more endurance and conditioning training before he becomes a legit threat at slams. They're a LOT more demanding than 2-set masters and smaller tournaments.
     
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  9. my_forehand

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    wow. one match and it's the end of an era?
     
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  10. ben_friendz

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    only three sets, Fed would wear Djoks game down in five
     
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    Where's my violin?
     
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  12. FedUp

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    C'mon guys, this has been discussed over and over again. I guess the other tournaments this year mean nothing. I agree with my_forehand 100%.
     
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  13. edmondsm

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    You know this guy is the holder of 3 slam titles. He's still the overwhelming favorite going into the USO. I would say that the one who really has to worry is Nadal, who now has yet another dude that can take him out consistently on hard courts.
     
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  14. Challenger

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    It's more of how Djokovic beat him than the very fact he beat him. Like Nadal, he's beaten Fed on his own terms. He didn't have to play the greatest match of his life or go all out...just sticking to his game was good enough.

    I don't think it marks the end for Fed (Djokovic still has to prove if he can translate this success to slams), but it does signify a more interesting time for tennis. Even if Fed still wins everything under the sun, at least it'll be more competitive with a three man race.
     
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    We all should said thats the end of Roddick instead.
     
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  16. Rickson

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    Are you kidding? Federer's gonna break Sampras' record in 2008. Greatest of all time and that's that.
     
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  17. 127mph

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    i disagree, federer is a three time champ at flushing, and this was the first time hes lost in a final on us soil in a long time. before indian wells federer hadnt lost in the us for like 3 years. Federer also holds the most consecutive wins on hardcourt as well as grass. people forget how good federer is on hardcourts. but im not taking anything from novak, hes for sure the 3rd best player in the world, which i thought after wimbledon. he will definatly challange for the us open.
     
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  18. Challenger

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    Wow, bitter much? You can't seem to stop talking about the guy (in a Federer-related thread, no less). Did he bone your girlfriend or something? Sheesh.
     
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  19. snapple

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    When has Nadal ever beaten Fed on his own terms?
     
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  20. Challenger

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    Watch the French Open lately?
     
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  21. snapple

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    That's what you consider on Fed's own terms??? Trading groundstrokes from the baseline on slow red clay. That makes no sense at all.
     
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  22. UW_Husky88

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    wow look at all the Joker bandwagoners! There are so many threads about this, and really, I think you guys are reading way too much into this loss. Come on, the guy barely beat Federer despite the fact that his backhand, and his whole game in fact was not top notch today. His backhand is for sure his weaker shot, but seriously, its not normally as bad as it was today. He made so many unnecessary mistakes, and all in all, tonight was just not the normal high quality stuff we see from Fed, and he STILL COULD HAVE PULLED IT OUT. Just calm down. Sure people are gaining on fed, but he's still the undisputed number one for a reason. He'll work on his backhand, and he'll be back to normal again.

    But I do think that Federer needs to play a few more tune ups than he is. The field is catching up to him, and he already almost lost wimby to nadal because he played almost nothing before. He needs to start being careful, but please. This is still roger's game.
     
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  23. Challenger

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    Maybe you misinterpreted what I said? I think it makes plenty of sense. Rafa beat Fed pretty handily by sticking to his usual style of play (like Djokovic today)...hence, Rafa's own terms.
     
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  24. FarFed

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    No, I think the end of an era was more like a 29-year old Sampras losing to a 19-year old Federer at Wimbledon 2001 4th Round and then losing badly in Wimbledon 2002 Second Round to a nobody (ironically Swiss) called George Bastl. If that happens to Federer (losing in the 2nd and 4th round of a Grand Slam he's won multiple times in the past) then that's pretty much the curtain call. But losing in the final at Rogers Cup, Montreal? C'mon, be reasonable.
    According to me he's got 2 to 3 solid years.
     
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    Yes, sorry I did misinterpret. However, rafa's own terms happen to be Fed's worst terms. What Joker did today to me was so much more impressive - beating Fed on a hardcourt by outplaying him in basically every aspect of the game, rather than simply outlasting him a la Nadal or Canas.
     
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  26. Adrupert

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    Fed has been struggling as of late, but I'm not sure if its more of because he is mentally not as sharp as before and is faltering as a result or if his indeed just aging. His movement did not look as smooth and what was with his backhand!?!?
     
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  27. Challenger

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    No worries about the misunderstanding...I sort of worded it oddly, anyway.

    And as much as I'm impressed with Djokovic's showing today, I wouldn't discount Nadal's achievements either. He has flat out OWNED Federer on clay courts, and at the FO especially. Clay may be Fed's "worst" terms, but even still...he's extremely gifted on that court. If it weren't for Rafa, he'd probably have 3 FO titles under his belt already.
     
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    Lets be honest, to see scrunchty face lose was fun. He is NOT loved, despite the bs charming Gaulois patois. The tennis crowd is tired of him, off with his head.
     
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  29. Challenger

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    Fed's a weird player for me to follow. On the one hand, I absolutely love watching his artful movement around the court, and his smooth yet dangerous groundstrokes...but, at the same time, I'm deathly bored with his matches unless he's playing Nadal (and now Djokovic). He usually beats players so easily and so swiftly, it gets downright boring to watch.

    Now, with some more competition, maybe his matches will be more interesting to watch.
     
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  30. jackson vile

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    Look at the hard court matches Nadal leads and Miami was so so so close some say a questionable call.
     
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  31. 10nisDude~

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    Yeah this years French Open...roger was more aggressive plus he had a win on clay against nadal so he shud have been more confident and i think nadal shud have won wimbledon hands down next year rafa...
     
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    The guy's just won a couple of hard court tournaments,not to mention US open. Now someone's already called him "a king of hard court"
     
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  33. thefederman

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    the tournament was played in montreal CANADA. and he will still win the us open
     
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  34. veritech

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    one loss and all of a sudden the end of an era?

    we're probably going to hear the same thing when rafa finally loses one match on clay.
     
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  35. KBalla08

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    this is exactly what i was thinking... one lose... wow... what about the TWO loses?!?!?! he suffered at the hands of canas? i think he recovered from those...
     
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  36. phoony

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    Then i should said thats the end of American era instead.
     
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  37. robin7

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    Djokovic Upsets Federer For Rogers Masters Crown

    NO, NOT YET, if u r refering to Federer's defeat to Djokovic in Rogers Masters.

    Djokovic's win will just put him as one of the favorites in the coming US Open. With Djokovic standing in Federer's way on the hardcourt & Nadal standing on the grass, Federer's dominance will definitely be under threat. Having said that, I'll say Federer still have a few years more to capture Grand Slams with a slower pace but still 1 or 2 GS per year. But one thing for sure, Federer will find himself getting harder & harder to lift another GS, and GS #14 might not come so soon.

    Anyway, we'll have wait & see till the US Open.
     
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    nod.......
     
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  39. Mad iX

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    End of an era. Lol ...
    I wouldnt say that unless Djokovic at least wins a slam. Federer only seems to play his best at the slams anyway.
    I'm not doubting Djokovic, but this is premature.
     
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  40. Challenger

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    Uh, I don't get it. Are you implying that all of America had their way with your girl? That's some loose broad you got there then.
     
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  41. robin7

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    Yup, I totally agreed with u.

    I like what Djokovic said during the trophy ceremony after his win over Federer in Montreal, "He can't take everything, somebody else has to win somehow."
     
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    I didn't said coz of my girl instead but what i mean american tennis are going to end due to too strong challenger and monopolised by the european players.
     
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  43. tsmcauliffe

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    I still think that your girl got boned by all the Americans.
     
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  44. 0d1n

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    Which Americans, those that can't see or use their p3ckers due to their humongous stomachs ??!? (well...they can see it if they look in the mirror...at least SOME of them).
    This is a tennis forum kiddies, stop with the girlfriend stupid allegations and insults or "get outta here" as they say.
     
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    My thoughts exactly, stupid thread.
     
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  46. gerikoh

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    well, federer wasn't 100% at that time.. and slams matters most with roger.. it's pretty much the same thing that had happened with nadal when he lost to federer in hamburg. and he avenged that loss in the french open where he clearly dominated federer. this just means federer will be training harder.. but it's good to know that there's somebody who could step-up against him :)
     
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  47. ta11geese3

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    I always used to think that Federer was most vulnerable in a best of 3 match.

    Actually, I still do.
     
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  48. rafan

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    We still have to see Djokovic go to the whole 5 sets over a grand slam fortnight and see how he can cope. Its a long tough trail and it was the making of Nadal who often only starts to warm up after the second set - good luck to him anyway and he is a great young player much needed in the present climate. One day we will need someone to replace Federer as he cannot go on playing this standard for many more years.
     
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  49. my_forehand

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    why would you need someone to replace Federer? matches with him, aside against nadal and djovokic are so boring. you already know know who's gonna win with fed.
     
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  50. diggler

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    I started this thread and I think I've been misinterpreted. I didn't say Federer is washed up. I said he could be winning only 1 - 2 slams a year instead of the superhuman 3. My comment was just as much based on the fact that he was very lucky to win Wimbledon.
     
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