The European Tennis Tournament Tour

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  1. Moz

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    Howdy. It has been brought to my attention that whilst my regional wisecracks are making the British readers groan, other nationalities (mainly the Yanks) are sitting there wondering what soccer team Jimmy Savile plays for and why on earth anyone would tip the council. So, in the hope I can dodge accusations of xenophobia I am providing a glossary of terms to be used when reading the preceding blog post entitled 'Stig of The Dump'.

    Glossary of Terms:

    1) Ryanair: Infamous budget airline who originated business practices such as despising your customers, charging per litre (* see glossary of glossary) of air breathed during flight and referring to a plane that lands in Ceredo, WV as a 'flight to New York'.

    2) Hymer: This is a term reserved for novice motorhome drivers and derives from one's virgin trip in the vehicle being known as "breaking the Hymer".

    3) Motorhome, (aka 'mobile coffin'): Where living people choose to spend the last 6,000 miles on their way to the crematorium conveyer belt. The US equivalent is RV - derived from the latin meaning 'reduced of vitality'.

    4) Savile, Jimmy: A deceased UK celebrity. He started off as a DJ, moved to TV and became a much loved charity-raising, marathon-running, jewellry-jangling public figure of note. Perhaps even more famous in death as a serial paedophile of singular daring and extremely varied tastes.

    5) Council Tip: A state funded institution used to depose of those of pensionable age who have no income or assets and no longer qualify for a state pension. (Similar to an EU wine lake but with people).

    6) Ice Cream Van: A converted Ford Transit van designed to drive around neighbourhoods selling snow cones and lollipops whilst playing an enticing tune. See also the 'vehicles used' subsection for glossary term no 4).

    7) Mano-a-mano: Regional Latin dialect used in America to signify "I met him and then served him a big mac meal".

    8) Giant Tampon: White furred member of the rodent family unique to the British Isles. Distinguishable by a box like body and very long tail. A sub-hibernater it sleeps most of the month and only comes out for 2 or 3 days at a time when it typically gets sunburnt.

    9) Stig Of The Dump: A children's television series in the 1980s where young schoolboys find a caveboy who they befriend and bring to school. Also known as 'the hairy conflake' it turns out 'Stig' was a naked radio DJ called Dave Lee Travis and that wasn't an old leather belt hanging from his waist.

    Glossary to the Glossary

    Litre: As in Liter - and how things were spelled before being butchered and *******ised by distant barbarian cousins of the civilised British.

    I hope this public service announcement has served its intended purpose. The tennis will be starting soon - honest.
     
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    excellent thanks.

    consider a version for dummies (yanks...or just me! :)
     
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    Thanks for that explanation. Sad days indeed when they come out of hibernation.
     
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    Won my first singles and lost my second in the Grade 1 International Championships of Italy. Coming back from 0-6, 0-1 down to lead 5-2 and then losing the set 7-5. This red clay is taking a lot of getting used to and it can take an absolute age to kill off a point. The general standard here is phenomenal - I saw a couple of 55s play yesterday who were amazing. It's really proving to be yet another eye-opener. The 40s final is between two ex-ATP players so should be a good one to watch.

    More details on the blog.

    Doubles starts tonight and then on to Rome where I'm the second seed.
     
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    good stuff. any possible video of the ex atp finals?
     
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    Not been too good at keeping up to date. Wifi can be a pain in the arse in Italy due to old terrorism laws.

    Having a great time and updating the blog fairly regularly if you want to keep up to date.

    Managed to win the singles and doubles in a Grade 4 tournament in Bari, Italy on red clay. I seem to be slowing getting the hang of the surface, which is as much a mental as physical issue.

    Previously....In the grade 3 in Rome I lost 7-6, 6-3 to the eventual winner. In the grade 1 in Alassio I didn't really play well at all, but won 1 match and lost the other.

    I'll try and get some video at the next tournament.

    To give you some idea - we've driven from just South of London to the South East coast of Italy (3038 kms). All in (excluding tournament entry fees) we spent 1400 euros in the first month, which isn't too bad for 2 people and a dog!

    Any questions let me know.
     
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    Had to be done!

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    Tournament setting in Rome (about 12kms out from centre of city):

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    Congrats, Moz! I've been following your excellent blog...

    A question and a comment:

    (1) I'm planning on playing the Wroclaw Cup (Warsaw) and Riga Seniors Open (Riga) back-to-back in late June. I've spent a few days each in Warsaw and Riga (and other parts of Eastern Europe) with folks fluent in English, but I'm curious if it's necessary that I learn the basic tennis terms in Polish and Latvian. My Spanish fluency is obviously useless, and if I were playing folks under the age of 35 I'd assume English would be fine, but... seeing as I'm going to be playing folks over 45, that age in Eastern Europe where English tends to be less prevalent, do I need to learn the tennis basics? Or is English sufficient? For a little context, I noticed that almost all of the players in these same two tournaments last year were from Poland and Latvia, respectively.

    (2) I'm in the UK at least once a year for my university reunion... we should try to play while I'm there if you're interested.

    Keep up the excellent playing!
     
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    Are you sure Wroclaw Cup is in Warsaw and not in Wroclaw?
     
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    You're correct (of course) - it's in Wroclaw - thanks. I got it confused with the Warsaw Cup in August and scribbled it down incorrectly. Question still applies...
     
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    Those trees look the same as at Foro Italico. Red clay looks cool too. I've never played on it as we only have the green har-tru in SE USA. I was in Porto, Portugal once on business and heard the twack of ball on strings behind a large stone wall. I walked through the entrance in the wall and there were 2 red clay courts with some guys playing. It was way cool but I didn't even have a racket with me.

    Good luck Moz but have a big bowl of pasta if you lose and you will feel better.
     
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    Dang Moz, I'm not sure which is redder, your shirt or your face. :)
    Nice pictures though. Please keep them coming as your wifi improves.
     
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    My face will stay permanently red until winter now!

    Regarding the languages. I've played tournaments in Italy, Estonia, Portugal and nearly everything is managed in English on court so I wouldn't worry.

    I much prefer red over green clay, there is something half-arsed about the green stuff.

    We're near the national park in Abruzzi now - it's 25c+ but we can see snow on the mountains.

    Next tournament starts next Wednesday in Milano Marritima and it's another Grade 1.
     
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    this is a great read. red clay is amazing, although often you find that you lose to players who you would beat 1 and 1 on a hard court, simply because they understand how clay works. happens to me often.
     
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    Moz! Well done, and great picture!
     
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    I notice your doubles partner is absent from the photograph. Did he get his own trophy, or did you club him round the head with the sole prize before making a swift getaway in the van (via an awkward 13-point turn)?
     
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    Or was he the one taking the picture?
     
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    Thank you, sir. Much appreciated. Best of luck at the next stop.
     
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    this made me laugh
     
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    Michael - that's so true.

    Dags - there was a point in the match where I could have skulled him but when you win everything is forgotten.

    No tennis to report, but I ran then was swimming at a lake this morning which was 1000m above sea level. Drove up to 1700m and back at another lake with a beer.

    Next tournament starts on Wednesday. I recommend this lifestyle, even though the other half breaks a bit of the van every other day. That means I spend more time spanking her than is ideal but it's a first world problem at the end of the day.
     
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    I am failing to see the problem. Perhaps photos would help explain?
     
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    Ha ha, I always spill my beer when I do it.
     
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    Tonight in Umag, Croatia I play against an ex-world number 1 (in the over 35s) on Centre Court of a stadium used for an ATP event. You can follow live streaming of the match from 5pm UK time / noon Eastern US time here: www.htsv.hr.

    Exciting times even though I might get killed!
     
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    File this under: "Blinding Glimpses of the Obvious" or "Useless Observations of a Stranger"

    I intermittently watched probably 6-8 games. Your opponent, Gudelj, had excellent ground strokes. For the most part he didn't use more than moderate pace, but he hit deep and with pretty good angles and moved you around a lot. Very consistent, good placement. But when he wanted to spank it, which was rare, he could. He was very deceptive in that manner - generally content to engage in moderate-paced rallies, but he would very occasionally unleash one to say, "Don't get too comfortable." I only saw him hit a few clean winners and he passed you a couple of times when you came to net. But 90%+ of the points you lost were the result of unforced errors. His serve was decent but not particularly offensive - moderate pace, deep in the service box, high first-serve percentage, but he never came close to overpowering you. I only saw him come to net once - he netted an easy floater on the forehand side.

    This guy was going to beat you - he has a better game, but... from what I saw, the score could've been 4&4 instead of the 2&0 it was had you been more patient. The quality of your respective games wasn't nearly as far apart as the score indicated. It just looked like you weren't having a good day, although some of that is obviously due to your opponent. (But I could be wrong about all of this - maybe the guy's just a stealth assassin in a different league.)

    Having said all that... it's easy to make commentary while watching video. It's totally different when you're actually playing on the court. Which is why my observations might be way off base. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts.
     
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    I think that's a very good summary.

    The main issue was that I felt I had no way of winning points without taking on excessive risk. Otherwise it was a standing grindfest. These usually suit me - but there was something extra knackering about these rallies. I clearly need to get fitter, be more proactive with my footwork and I have also been working on my backhand slice and running round my backhand more. He's entered in the Grade 2 in Austria that I play next week so it will be a good comparison. Against strong players points can be very hard to come by on red clay.

    I'm getting better on the clay though and managed to win the Grade 3 singles and doubles in Croatia thus week. Still having a great time - every player needs to spend 6 months on red clay!
     
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    keep up the good work
     
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    reminds me of this show

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    I need to get one of those outfits!
     
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    I see you exacted revenge on Mr. Gudelj... well done! Honestly, while I thought you could make it a much closer match than the previous drubbing, I didn't think you had enough to beat him... so, again, well done. Making the finals of a Grade 1 tournament is no small feat... hopefully you can overcome Mr. Wh*reburger (I may have misspelled that) in the final.

    So, when you have a moment between tennis and fixing the RV, tell us how you made such a dramatic turnaround versus Mr. Gudelj. My guess - and thus likely to be wrong - is that you determined that while his groundstrokes were quite good... they lacked sufficient pace to blow you off the court and that, in fact, you could win in true grinding/fitness fashion... inquiring minds want to know!

    Safe travels...
     
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    Hi, thanks for noticing.

    Managed to win the grade 1 in the end which will bring my ranking up to around the mid-teens. You're more or less spot on.

    A few things:

    - Much more red clay experience generally.
    - Much better concentration and focus, mentally match fit now.
    - As I'm coming out of a long bout of chronic fatigue I'm starting to feel better and better and I'm getting my speed and fitness back.

    - I tried to keep the ball out of the middle of the court and high and then punish anything short.
    - As it happened I didn't get much short but it became obvious fairly early on that he wasn't having a great day and was starting to struggle with his fitness.
    - So I just ground away and chased everything down and kept the points long.
    - Then as we continued his play patterns became obvious and easier to read.

    It took over 3 hours for a 7-6, 6-4 and at the end of the day I was slightly fitter and played well whereas he probably had a bad day. Also, we used Wilson US Open heavy duty and they were really hard to generate any pace on by the time the second set started which suited me.

    I think that's 4 tournament wins now. Two Grade 4s (Italy, Slovenia), one Grade 3 (Croatia) and one Grade 1 (Austria). I think I'm finally starting to get it!

    Off to Czech Republic now.
     
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    When we were young, was it frowned upon to wear black socks with white shoes? Or was it just the white socks with black shoes?
     
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    Definitely both Dags and the socks couldn't be pulled up high! Lack of laundry doesn't leave me with much choice!
     
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    Managed to sneak into the final of another Grade 1. I play the number 1 over 40 in the world which could be interesting!
     
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    I notice you've already hit with him. False sense of security is a devilishly cunning game plan.
     
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    Sounds like you are doing great, Moz. Congratulations! Time to beat the king and become the new king.
     
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    Moz keep up the good work.

    Just from looking at the super small draws and past rankings of the top players...

    Its kinda shocking IMO when a guy can get to #1 in the ITF Rankings and his best pro ranking was 1211...

    With your now top 20 ranking....You'll be seeded at the World Championships, so hopefully you'll play that event next year.

    where will the 2015 be held?

    rock on
     
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    I would careful in your use of the word "Shocking" to describe people's previous pro rankings. Given the financial and time constraints for anyone playing pro tournaments rankings often do not reflect their level of tennis. There is often very little difference between a player ranked 500 and one ranked 1500. Until people are in the top 200 and making a living out of it, it's impossible to judge their ability.
     
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    This is certainly sometimes true, but most of the time very wrong. IMO there is a big difference to someone who got 1 point to someone who won a few futures and made a few challenger quarters

    The guy must be very good to beat Moz without dropping 1 game. I can't imagine anyone beating Moz 60 60, unless he was drunk the night before.

    I was more shocked to see such a small draw of players for a grade 1 event.
    I guess I just have no idea what the level is since I'm not in the draw.

    Just seems kinda sad to have so few players, but this is a trend in tennis tournaments.

    Tournament directors that want consistent large draws need to actually do something special to attract people, like have $ or pick up the phone and recruit people and personally invite them to play. You would be surprised how just calling players vs email can get people to join a tournament. Lost art
     
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    The guy ranked number one had a good excuse as I believe he coached his brother to the top 200 rather than focused on his own tennis. But to be honest there are very few ex pros who play enough tournaments to get highly ranked. I think if you took any of the rankings you'd have to multiply by 1000 to get a more accurate picture. I'm ranked 15 in the world, whereas in reality I'm closer to being the 15000th. I have so much work to do to get to a standard I'm proud of.

    The draw sizes have been very disappointing. The entry fees are too high and I think many tournaments are put on in an attempt to make Some cash. The real disappointment has been the almost total lack of doubles draws for my age group.

    I think there is a trend here. In the old days the 35 draws were of a decent size, now they are often round robins or not held at all. The 45s is where it's at. I worry that when I get to the 45s it will be the 50s. I'm not sure the ITF are doing anything to address this / I know the USTA are squeezing the seniors budget quite hard.
     
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    I agree, in general, but disagree with your multiple. I'd say multiply by 200 to 300. Recall, we're just talking about the over-40s here. But I could be wrong...

    I'm playing in just my second sanctioned tournament since starting to play again (after 27 years off) and I've noticed that it's the over-50s where draws really start growing. My last (and first) tournament had just 7 entrants in the O45s and double that number in the O50s. The current tournament I'm playing has 10 entrants in the O45s and 30 in the O50s.

    A friend of mine who plays a lot of tournaments believes (and I agree with him) that the O35s - O45s suffer small draws because of family issues. That is, the wife doesn't want hubby spending what would otherwise be "family time" galavanting about playing tennis. By the 50s, however, the kids are generally either out of the house or late-teenagers and are not excited about "family time." Also, the wife is generally sick of the husband by this point and wants him gone as much as possible. Just my two cents...
     
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    What were the best venues to play at over the course of your tour?
    How did you find language differences?
    Would you do it again?
    Would your wife let you do it again?
    What were the best events?
    Do you think your tennis improved?
    How did you kill time once you were out of the tournaments?
     
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    Most impressive venue was playing on the main court of the ATP venue in Umag. Probably the nicest venue is in Milano Marritima in Cervia, Italy where you walk through the courts onto the beach.

    Language was rarely a problem - English was reasonable common and we didn't really experience any problems through lack of communication.

    I'd do it again, but over a shorter period and I'd try and use the contacts I have made this time to set up more planned practices as the draws were often small and without any doubles. My other half (not married) would be happy to do it again or to let me to if she couldn't.

    Hard to say - each event had it's good points and their bad. I'd probably do any of them again to be honest without feeling I had to go back to any.

    My tennis improved massively - my shot quality, handling of red clay, fitness and mental toughness. Red clay really suits my shots and mentality but it was a slow process getting used to it. The drawback was that it was difficult to practise regularly due to a number of factors - lack of facilities, partners and travel.

    I won 6 ITF tournaments - two grade 4s, two grade 3s, a grade 2 and a grade 1 and made two other grade 1 finals. I ended up ranked 3rd in the world for over 40s.

    We did a fair bit of driving between tournaments and sightseeing in between. For example between Rome and Bari we went to Pompeii and Salerno. I planned most of the trip so tournaments were fairly close together.

    If anybody has any other questions go ahead.

    We drove about 13500 kms, hit 10 different countries and more or less stuck to our budget of 1500 euros per month.
     
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    amazing !!!! you da man!!
     
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    Do you agree that carpet is the king of surfaces, and that the measure of a man's tennis prowess can only truly be measured by his performance on the shag pile?
     
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    the king of all surfaces is red clay.

    someone with a huge serve and crap rest of the game can win on indoor carpet.

    you have to have a well rounded game to win on red clay.

    I assume Moz agrees
     
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    I'd agree that the measure of a man's prowess is measured by his performance on the shag pile - but that has nothing to do with tennis.

    For tennis, red clay all the way!
     
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    for some reason this seems very sexual :)
     
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    Quick update. I've decided to stop mucking around with little improvements and have booked myself into a tennis academy in Mallorca. I'll be there full time, provisionally for about 4 months, leaving on Thursday. That should take me up to next year's World Champs in Turkey in March.

    I'll sort out some way of sharing a detailed diary of each session for those that are interested.

    Mon - fri: 2 * 1.5hr of tennis + 1hr physical fitness.
    Sat: 1.5hr of tennis.
    Sun: OFF

    Kill or be killed!
     
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