the first asian player to win

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first asian to win Grand Slam

  1. chinese

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    46.4%
  2. indian

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    7.1%
  3. japenese

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    21.4%
  4. some other country

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    25.0%
  1. aaziz

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    a grand slam. i think it will be chinese or indian. i dont think of micheal chang as chinese, since he was born in usa
     
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  2. Underhand

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    Will be Jet Li.
     
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  3. dantheman

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    Most likely Kei Nishokori at the French Open or US Open.
     
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    leander paes and mahesh have won several slams.

    Singles. Don;'t think an indian will. praps some chinese/hongkong chap who is not yet playing or born.
     
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  5. Manus Domini

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    Does chang count?
     
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    Since you didn't say it is men's only, then it is obviously chinese who have some decent female players, who have reached slam semi in singles. and have won slam title in doubles.
     
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    Is it supposed to be funny then? :confused:
     
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  8. Manus Domini

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    Singles or Doubles?

    Men's, Women's, Mixed, or Juniors?

    A Slam, or the Grand Slam?
     
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    I chose 'some other country'.

    I hear they have some great players coming up
     
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  10. aaziz

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    men/women singles
     
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  11. sureshs

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    Sharapova has won 3 Slams. She is Asian.
     
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    ksbh could have won a Slam but he was too busy with Z Aman
     
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    Singles..

    Men: They might not have enough time before the grand slam tournaments (and maybe tennis itself) will cease to exist.

    Women: China. In 10 years.
     
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  14. tennisnoob3

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    LOL truth. its hard to visually consider them asian due to their skin color and vast environmental differences.

    i guess thread should be retitled "southeast" asian then.
     
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    Let's say "Non-white Asians" :)

    that way, if we ever discuss Africa we can also exclude South Africa.
     
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    Li Na just defeated Clijsters
     
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  17. Manus Domini

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    Asian is Asian lol
     
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  18. li0scc0

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    Let's just simply say 'ethnic' Asian born in Asia.
    So a Kazakh could be Asian if they are ethnic Asian.
    Sharapova is Caucasian, not ethnic Asian.
    Chang is ethnic Asian, not born in Asia.
    My take is the first ethnic Asian born in Asia will be a Chinese woman.
     
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  19. sureshs

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    Rohan Bopanna is the GOAT
     
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    Why does Michael Chang not count? His genetics are pure Asian.
     
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  21. sureshs

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    You know that most people in South Africa are not white, right?
     
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  22. Manus Domini

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    Wrong, Sharapova is not Caucasian, she is Ob-Ugrian, which is a Uralic ethinic group, which is a North Asian Group

    Case and point
     
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    Also, Marat Safin is a Tatar, which is an Asian race, so there you go, even before Maria
     
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    this thread would be illegitimate if so lol.

    sureshs, the percentage of whites in south africa is much greater than the rest of africa, excluding egyptians who are considered, i believe, Caucasian.
     
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    The people of Northern Africa, which includes Egypt, Algeria, etc., are distinctly different from the people of sub-Saharan Africa. Arabs, Berber's, etc, are the dominant people's of northern africa.
     
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  26. kelawai

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    Are you sure Michael Chang is not Chinese? He don't look Black or White to me.
     
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  27. WhiskeyEE

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    she's still caucasian. a lot of asians are caucasian. caucasian is extremely broad and includes people of european, north african, middle eastern, and even some of indian and west chinese descent.
     
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  28. WhiskeyEE

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    and tatars are descendent from turks, who are also caucasian.

    i think it's pretty obvious OP is referring to desi or han type people. you don't need to be so literal with the "asian" classification.
     
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  29. li0scc0

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    The original poster is referring to Asian as a 'race', which is absolutely fine. The original poster is also referring to Asian as a place of birth/residence.
    Michael Chang - race is Asian, but he is American.
    If we want to get picky, we could say that Irish people have won many majors (e.g. McEnroe and Connors).
     
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    Michael Chang is ethnically a pure asian, but he was born and trained in the US. So he was basically just another successful product of the American junior coaching system. If he had trained in China as a junior, he would have had no success. Even his huge talent wouldn't have helped him. In fact, I doubt he would have started playing tennis at all. He would have been playing badminton or table tennis...

    The reason why asian men do poorly at tennis is the lack of popularity the sport has in the East. If tennis was the most popular sport in China, they would dominate the ATP tour. They'd probably have around 8 guys in the top 10, just like in badminton or table tennis. If they put all that work they put in those sports into tennis, they would certainly be the best in the world.
     
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  31. Manus Domini

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    wrong. The ethnic group caucasian is the Caucas mountain region as place of origin. Just cause she is blond haired, fair skinned does not mean she isn't Asian.

    i think it's pretty obvious the OP is referring to the asian ethic groups type people. you don't need to be so stereotypical with the "asian" classification
     
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  32. WhiskeyEE

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    i never said she wasn't asian, but she's still caucasian. caucasian isn't an ethnic group so much as a very broad anthropological classification like mongoloid or negroid and encompasses all of the ethnic groups (and several others) i stated previously. and i'm interpreting asian in a stereotypical manner since op obviously means "asian" in its typical american interpretation, which is indian, han chinese, south east asian, and maybe polynesian.
     
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  33. Manus Domini

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    actually, it is an ethnic group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_peoples

    and according to American interpretation, Indian=/=Asian. Asian, at least from where I see people use it, is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and other far east coast
     
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  34. WhiskeyEE

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    if you'd read the 1st sentence it says that it's a collection of various ethnic groups. it isn't its own ethnic group.

    also, way to be selective about which wiki article you post. here's another:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

    The postulated subraces vary depending on the author, including but not limited to Nordic, Mediterranean, Alpine, Dinaric, East Baltic, Arabid, Turanid, Iranid and Armenoid subraces.
     
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  35. Manus Domini

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    fine. Still my point stands that Sharapova is not part of any Caucasian ethnic group
     
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    Australian Open - The Grand Slam of Asia/Pacific

    Maybe Australian players are asian?
     
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    can we count them as such? I don't think so. Different continents
     
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  38. WhiskeyEE

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    she's probably a mixture of alpine and turkish or something. she sure as hell isn't mongoloid or negroid, so she's caucasian.
     
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    Rodney Heath won the Australian Open in 1905. We have our answer!!!!!
     
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  40. Manus Domini

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    1} Caucasian=/=non-Asian
    2} She's not part of the Caucasian ethnic groups.
     
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  41. WhiskeyEE

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    you're right. it means =/= mongoloid asian, sub-saharan african, polynesian, native american, native australian, etc. Given that sharapova is none of those, she's caucasian. just like the uyghur's of western china (the non mixed one's) are caucasian since they're descendent from turks.
     
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  42. Manus Domini

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    my point is even if she is caucasian (let's presume, shall we?), that does not mean she isn't Asian.

    But to be Caucasian, you have to be from the Caucus mountain range, which she isn't. Remember, America separates India from Asia in it's census. According to you, they aren't the same either...
     
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  43. WhiskeyEE

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    oh and i just looked up sharapova's ethnicity. her parents are ethnic belarussians, which are 100% caucasians, not even debatable. ROFL.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Sharapova

    Sharapova was born in 1987 to Yuri and Yelena, ethnic Belarusians, in the town of Nyagan' in Siberia, Russia.

    now, if you're going to argue that belarussians aren't caucasian, i don't even know what to say.
     
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  44. WhiskeyEE

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    i never said she wasn't asian. i just said that a lot of asians, including sharapova, are caucasian, since a lot of caucasians (including the turks and romans of the past) migrated there. but since her parents are from belarus that's a moot point.
     
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  45. HellBunni

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    well that ends the thread then =)
    since the op was asking about an Asian winning a GS.
     
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