The Fischer Faction!

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  1. NicoMK

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    Hi again, all, :)

    That's a new (but poor... sorry...) pic of my 'retro' Pro Classic 98 collection. I've got 5 of them new. The two ones without leather grips are freshly acquired and they are NOT exactly the same models as the other ones, I mean, different item number, slightly different bumper, NO pallets, differences in PJ (although you can't see it on the picture), and they are numbered on the handle (stick), with SAME balance, weight and RA (64). In fact, I think they are the SAME as the 'original' Pro Classic from 10-12 years ago (the ones I've been using since 1999 btw).

    I compared them all, they all have the same weight (minor differences of 2 grammes, which is nothing... amazing Fischer QC!), balance and swing. Except for the two mentioned above, RA is 66, but one of them is 68, which is a bit stiff for a Fischer, IMO...


    This week, I wanted to try one of them (a one with RA 66, leather grip, pallets etc..), and yes, it was a bit more powerful than the ones I've been using for 11 years now. Apart from that, they are clearly the same...

    I now have 8 PC 98 and I won't change for nothing in the world! That's said! ;)

    More pics if required!

    Cheers all !

    Nico

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  2. stoble

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    I'm pretty sure the only difference is the paint and the new grip shape. Fischer introduced a more traditional grip shape with the No Tolerance model. It's somewhere between the shape of a Wilson and Head racquet.
     
  3. tapatio

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    Currently playing with Black Granite comp, with Babolat excel 17,excellent control, took a couple hitting sessions to find the spot, but it is absolutely superb.:twisted:
     
  4. tennis4josh

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    Here you go...
    http://web.archive.org/web/20061112122027/www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCFISCHER-FMSR.html

    Cheer,
    -Josh
     
  5. jimanuel12

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  6. stoble

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    Pro One - Mods

    I recently started adding lead to my MPro One SL and it's playing better than ever. When I first got the MPro's I added a leather grip and 2 overgrips because that's what I'm used to playing with. I didn't think the balance would be affected too much till I actually measured it. I found out it was 10 pts headlight strung! Anyways it was very maneuverable but lacking in power and plowthrough.

    So last month I added 6g total - 3g at the top and 3g at 3 and 9. More power but still not much difference in plow through. This week I added 4 more grams - 2 at the top and 2 at 3&9, and I think this is exactly what I was looking for. I have enough power on 2H backhands now and I have the plow through I was looking for. Serves, slices, and volleys all seem easier now. The only drawback was that I was late on more returns and groundstrokes than normal. It definitely feels heavier but I think I'll be able to adjust fine though. I've played with heavier racquets before.

    The total (strung) weight of my frame now is 358g and the balance is 31.7cm or 8pts HL. I added:
    -Prince leather grip
    -2 overgrips
    -10g to the hoop

    This thing is a monster fellas! But now I'm wondering whether to stop here or keep adding smaller increments of lead.

    Has anyone else added significant weight to their SL Pro Ones? Seems like most in this thread add only a few grams if any.
     
  7. Viper

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    Are there any Fischers (or the new Pacifics that look delicious) that are comparable to the Dunlop M-Fil 300?
     
  8. frekcles

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    With the exception of the tapered beam and the string pattern, the Pacific X Force has almost similar specs to the Mfil 300. The Pro No. 1 UL or the Black Granite No. 1 UL are similar to the Pacific X Force.

    Feel however is very different. I have not encountered any frame that has similar feel to the Pro No. 1.
     
  9. McLovin

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    Judging from the stats, the Magnetic Tour Light was likely your best bet, but I don't know if you'll be able to find them anymore:
    Fischer Magnetic Tour Light
    Head Size: 100 sq. in. /645 sq. cm.
    Length: 27.00 inches / 68.58 cm
    Strung Weight: 11.00 oz / 312 g
    Balance: 4pts HL
    Swing Weight: 314
    Beam Width: 22mm
    Composition: Air Carbon / Graphite
    Power Level: Low
    String Weight: 11.00
    String Pattern: 16 Mains/19 Crosses

    Dunlop M-Fil 300
    Head Size: 98 sq. in. /632 sq. cm.
    Length: 27.00 inches / 68.58 cm
    Strung Weight: 10.90 oz / 309 g
    Balance: 3pts HL
    Swing Weight: 317
    Beam Width: 21.5mm
    Composition: Graphite Multifilament
    Power Level: Low-Medium
    String Weight: 10.90
    String Pattern: 16 Mains/19 Crosses​

    Personally, I'm hoping Pacific resurrects all the Black Granite Fischer frames soon, especially the M-Comp.
     
  10. Viper

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    How does power compare on the lighter frames? I loved that the 300 I had a choice of how much power I could put on a shot. Not enough that balls zoom out every time, but enough that if I wasn't fully prepared for a shot I could send over a decent return. I've always been entranced with Fischer rackets, because they seem like their the only racket company (and now Pacific it seems) that actually cares about their customers and QC.
     
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  11. Outlined

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    it lookes like the M-Speed Pro No. 1 98 has a longer handle compared to the M Pro No. 1 98? Optical illusion?

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  12. Outlined

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    The M Pro No. 1 98 (UL) version.
     
  13. forthegame

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    Got an M-SPeed Pro No. 1 98 (UL) winging it's way toward me! Can't wait! Would love to see how it compares to my PK Ki 5. Been itching for a Fischer for a long while.
     
  14. forthegame

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    Finally got the M-SPeed Pro No. 1 98 (UL)! I like it so far, only had a few hours playtime so far.
    Can anyone give string and lead placement advice?
    Got PSG at ~56lbs at the moment.
    It seems VERY lead position sensitive, 2 x 3 inches of 1/4" lead strips at 3/9 (per side) changed the feel completely! Now testing a different lead setup.
     
  15. Outlined

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    Maybe Fischer already put weight at 3 and 9 o'clock. In that case you better use 1:30, 4:30, 7:30 and 10:30.

    When it comes to strings you might want to use poly: durable and you don't have to worry about injuries as Fischer's are always arm friendly. Good for power too.
     
  16. Hankenstein

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    I just bought a real Fischer Classic!! A Pro no 1 , the red and silver Kafelnikov 320 grams version. It will be a joy to take it for a dance late this week
     
  17. Outlined

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    What string pattern does it have (please give the # of string through the bridge as well)?
     
  18. slice bh compliment

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    Same camera angle, different distance. Headsize and grip looks larger on the newer (green/yellow) one, too.

    Both great sticks. My kid uses the green/yellow junior Fischer 26 graphite, pre-strung. The strings actually feel great right off the shelf.

    Will Pacific re-brand some of the Fischer classics? I bet they will. They'll probably eventually phase out the Fischer name.
     
  19. Hankenstein

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    8 through the bridge
     
  20. frekcles

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    The red and silver is 330g unstrung isn't it?
     
  21. forthegame

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    Guys, does the M Pro (speed) No. 1 require a slow, deliberate swing? Been thinking that maybe I need to let the racquet do all the work. Is it that sort of racquet?

    Another thing, it's uncanny, the ball seems to accelerate rapidly if you hit a certain part of the stringbed. I know if you hit the sweetspot with ANY racquet, it shoots. This feels sorta different. Like a definite acceleration. Am I imagining things?
     
  22. Outlined

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    My experience with this stick (SL version) is that it gives you some natural head-acceleration when you hit with it. This is because of the (clever or accidental, do not know) mass distribution. Therefore it is very easy to hit top-spin with it.

    Very soon I will give it another try. I'll keep posting my experiences.
     
  23. Outlined

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    Did Fischer ever released a stick with 18 mains ?
     
  24. austro

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    I own and played both. No difference except for the grip (and the paint).
     
  25. Outlined

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  26. forthegame

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    ^^
    Surprised.
     
  27. sargeinaz

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    Count me in. I love Fischer. I strayed the last 6 months, but now I'm back with a black/red Pro 1. I love Fischer. There's nothing like it. Once I find another back up Pro 1 and some grommets, I'll be set for a long time.
     
  28. forthegame

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    That is the killer...
     
  29. forthegame

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    I've picked up a Magnetic Tour UL and so far so very good; playing it stock. I actually prefer it to the M Speed Pro 98.

    I'll need to give more time to both racquets and find the ideal customisation and strings. Need a bit more swingweight methinks.

    I wanna settle down..
     
  30. Outlined

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    [M Speed Pro UL????] interesting, why ?
     
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  31. forthegame

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    Yes, M SPeed Pro 98 UL. I dunno, so far I prefer the Mag Tour. Only played it once mind, so that may change.

    After my first (very good) session with the Speed, things have not been so good. Cannot get comfy. Struggling to find the right setup. I wonder if the Prince Syn Gut Orig at approx 55lbs has anything to do with it?
     
  32. Outlined

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    I see, liked the M Tour 100 (UL) as well. However the M Pro No One 98 (SL) is something totally different.
     
  33. forthegame

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    I decided to try c 11oz racquets cos I felt a little clumsy with my 11.8oz Ki 5. If it doesn't work out with the ULs I will certainly try the SL. Fischer and Gamma are what I wanna check out because they are hyped as excellent rackets.
     
  34. forthegame

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    Another thing, I know the specs are identical but the Mag Tour UL feels more substantial than the M Speed 98 UL.
     
  35. Outlined

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    I think this is all due to the thin bridge the M Pro has. That is too thin for tweener-weight I think.
     
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    Hmm, just checked the bridge, cannot see much of a difference....
     
  37. Outlined

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    Member too, just obtained 3 M PRO No1 98 (320 gram unstrung), all in good condition

    Gripsize is L3, Fischer's Sorb Tack feels good too but I will still put some thin white overgrip on it. As this stick is heavy, flexible and has 16 main strings I will use some thick poly string in it at about 25 kg I think.

    They will be threatened as expensive pieces of art, therefore they will get some protection tape on it (always good to do that). However as this stick is 2.5 cm width on top I will need to find a tape with a width of about 4-5 cm. Hard to find I am afraid. Right now I got protection tape of 3 cm width which will turn out to be a little to small.

    Time to get some grommets, any suggestions where I can find them? Can I use Pacific grommets (as their X Force is just a reincarnation)?

    I am so happy with them. They were hard to find, but the search was worth it. Up to the next hunt: the M-Comp 95 (330 gram unstrung). Not that I intend to play serious matches with it, but it must be great to play with it against significantly weaker players. :D

    My NTRP rating is 3.5 btw.
     
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  38. McLovin

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    I know for a fact that there are some for sale in the 'For Sale' section. :wink:

    Just do a search on 'Fischer M-Comp' in the For Sale section and you might possibly come up w/ 5 of them for sale from someone resembling...me...
     
  39. Outlined

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    LOL thanks, I'm not in a hurry for it but they are definitely on my radar.
     
  40. Outlined

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    • Nowadays it is so easy for a new brand to enter the market that I can not understand Fischer went out of business. Why can Pacific enter (!) the marktet with sticks, sticks originally by Fischer who can not stay in the market with those same sticks? I do not get it. When I look at TW I see brands I never ever even heard of: Avery, Boris Becker, Gamma, Kneissl, PowerAngle. People won Grand Slames with Fischer sticks!!!!!!!
    • Does anyone know which brand a basic grip offers which comes closest to the Fischer Sorb Tack?
    • If I replace the SL pallet of my M Pro No1 98 by an UL pallet, will this give me a 25 gram lighter stick?
     
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  42. counterpuncher

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    No. The pallets should be the same. The weight is in the racquet frame, most likely silicone in the handle.
     
  43. Black Knight

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    2 scratched and battered vacuum pros! They don't make me serve like Michael Stich but, he was a bit of dunce anyway! :)
    I couldn't part with them...ever!
     
  44. Outlined

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    Yesterday I played a match (lost) with my new M Pro No1. Feels great. However in the past 2 years I got used to tweeners so I am not sure whether I will make the full transition. Don't regret my purchase, still great to have them. Maybe, one day, when I will be a 5.0 I can (re)start platying with them. :D

    So my (new) question: Which Fischer frame comes closest to the Radical Liquidmetal (mid-plus) ?
     
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  45. new_tennis_player

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    Whoa! 30 pages?

    These must be some pretty good rackets.

    How about a comfortable model, large sweetspot, 100" to 108" headsize?

    Oh, under $130. I'm checking TW right now...
     
  46. Outlined

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    Where to get grip pallets/shells (UL) ?
     
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    I have been playing with the M SPeed Pro 98 for several years but have not paid attention to new rackets. Now I need some new rackets but cannot find any Fischer rackets for sale.

    Are there any retailers in the USA still sell Fisher rackets?

    Thanks,
     
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    ^ Thanks. Will take a look.
     

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