The Fischer Faction!

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Djokovicfan4life, Mar 28, 2008.

  1. NicoMK

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    Fischer number… err… 15?

    Hi all,

    It's been a while since I have written a few lines here but it's always a pleasure to bump this thread on top.

    Today I added Fischer number 14 or 15 -- can't remember exactly, I have to count -- to my Fischer collection.

    A good mate of mine sent me a BRAND NEW Fischer Vacuum Pro 98 strung with natural gut. It's the 95-96 version if I trust its paint job.

    As always it's a beauty. Perfectly balanced, weight is 358 grammes strung. Grip 4.

    And I had it for free, so thank you Manu if you read those lines!!

    I'm not sure I'm gonna hit some balls with it, I wouldn't want to scratch it or something. But I'm sure it plays as sweet as you can imagine!

    I've uploaded some pics below -- but taken in dark conditions, sorry.

    A beauty really!

    Cheers all and keep bumping this nice thread on top!

    NicoMK

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  2. Chotobaka

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    That is a beauty. Congratulations!
     
  3. Kevin T

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    That is a beauty! Years ago, I bought a Vac Pro 95...very rare and Euro only. Got it from a TW board member in '03 or '04. Better than the 90 or 98 but could never find another...orange and black beauty.
     
  4. tapatio

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    Played again with my pro classic 98 sticks today, best stick ever!
    I don't know what I was thinking when I put them on sale earlier this week, anyway, they are off the market and will keep them with me.
     
  5. Rezmund13

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    Just sold my two Vacuum Pro Classics (Fischer Austria models) and bought three Vaccum Pro 90 Mid Sizes (1 x new and 2 x like new). Got some Vacuum Pro and Comfort strings, along with Fischer grips/dampeners to set them up!
     
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    4 1/2 (#2) Pallets??

    Hi All,

    Great thread! Wondering if anyone out there has any 4 1/4 (#2) Fischer/Pacific pallets with the incorporated buttcap & screws for a much loved M Pro #1 98? Haven't had ANY luck contacting Pacific directly, of course. Would really appreciate some help or a point in the right direction. Cheers!
     
  7. pzed1702

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    Sorry, 4 1/4 not 4 1/2!

    Sorry can't find the edit post function.
     
  8. Samurai Backhand

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    Found this thread but I have been using Vacuum Pro mid since 1992.
    Cheers.
     
  9. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Hey, that's news to me. I have a Pro Number One (red & silver) that I really like, but at RA ~65 it is a little rough on my arm. My understanding has always been that the one after it (red/white/black) was the same, or close to it, but the one after that (red/black) was when they dropped the ceramics (even though the frame's graphics still read "SiC") and went flexible. Since all the versions since have been flexible, I've always assumed that the all versions that came before my red/silver were stiff.

    Do you have an estimated RA rating for your VT Pro 98?

    Anyone know about the stiffness of the other early ceramic tapered beam Pro frames, like the Vacuum Pro 98?
     
  10. Backhanded Compliment

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    So how do we describe the "Fischer Feel"? Soft reel but crisp response?

    Perhaps muted on impact but feedback during dwell time and on release?
     
  11. Wanchope

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    BX2 x fast pro

    Hi, I've seen the new BX2 x fast pro available in some european websites. It seems they have increased its weight in 10 grams compared to the previous version (310 grams unstrung), but I find contradictory info about the lenght (68,5 or 69,5?) and the string pattern (16x19 or 16x20).

    Does anyone know the true specs and if the racket comes with zero tolerance technology? Has anyone tried it?
     
  12. Don't Let It Bounce

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    McLovin, I went a-lookin' through the Wayback Machine for an answer to my own question. Is this the VT Pro 98 you hit with? It has an RA of 64, versus the X-Force Pro's 60. I'd be interested in knowing either that there was another "VT Pro 98" with a lower flex out there or that Fischer made an RA 64 frame that felt more flexible than an RA 60 one.
     
  13. McLovin

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    Can't explain it, except maybe the Basalt makes it feel stiffer than it is? Or maybe when Fischer manufactured them, their materials made it feel more flexible than it really was? Or maybe it is where it actually flexes.

    My first thought when I hit w/ the BX2 version was that it was a bit stiffer than the 'BX1' version, but TW's page actually has the BX2 X Force Pro coming in at 59. Go figure.

    Or, maybe I'm just terrible at determining 'feel'...
     
  14. Backhanded Compliment

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    or the BX1's are simply a tad more used than a brand new BX2. I foundthat when I got my second BX1 the newer frame seemed stiffer. In fact I just put on new grommet set on my main stick today and that made it feel stiffer for the first set. All I know is that the "fischer feel" helps me feel the flex and dwell time of the stick and doesnt feel harsh. BTW that first set today was perhaps my most perfect set of tennis ever. I made one unforced error and won it 6-1. I didnt make my second unforced error until the 3rd game of the second set. Im now contemplating replacing grommets more often ;) ...it is not the player or the racquet... it is the grommets! (if only it were that easy)
     
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  15. Alex78

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    After seeing pictures of this cyan beauty here, I had to get one, just for seeing it in the flesh.
    Not planning on keeping it, though, but really nice indeed :)

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  16. NicoMK

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    Great find Alex!

    Seems to be a Pro Classic 90 ancestor.

    More pics maybe?
     
  17. Alex78

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    Sure :)

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    And it has seen some court time:

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  18. Alex78

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    She's elliptic...

    This one in today, lucky internet find.
    But they don't make 'em like this anymore...

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  19. Backhanded Compliment

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    Nice... I like the Nicole Durr designs they have that hyper late 80's flair but later on.

    Looks like she move onto stage design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK1kQNothtE but is back doing jewlry, handbags etc.... Mostly stuff for the ladies.

    Until theRF 97 andnewblade came along I thought Wilson had lost their mind design wise.

    The new Pacific Fischers have a more racing look. It's nice and serious but nowhere near as cool as the ND Fischers. Best Racquet designs ever were the Donnay Wooden racquets like Borg etc. I think the Angells are nice looking too. Im in the design/architecture world so I do care a lot about the looks of things... Fischers were so euro cool
     
  20. Alex78

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    Thanks; I also like the ND designs a lot. And that's why I was very excited to find this racket NOS ;) Although when I was a kid, I couldn't care less about Fischer tennis rackets, as I was all Head and Prince back then...
     
  21. boinz

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    thats nice :) i got a pair in the 14x19 string pattern.
     
  22. Alex78

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    How do they play? :)
     
  23. Alex78

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    And these things just keep popping up out of nowhere...

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  24. sma1001

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    Where do you source all these from?
     
  25. Alex78

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    Just lucky finds on the i'net ;)
    Edit: And living in Germany helps - lots of Fischers sold here over the years...
     
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  26. brittboy23

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    The Holy Grail

    Yep that is the sweetest frame I have ever hit with. Have finally sourced another one!!
     
  27. CopolyX

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    On these racquets
    Fischer Smash Ti
    Fischer Strike Ti

    Are they any good?
    What are they worth?
     
  28. boinz

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    soft, the frame itself is a flexy, with the open string pattern it feels softer than the 16x20. could be good for poly strings (i have mine with multis)
     
  29. ModusOperandi

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    Wanna be a member, too! Some 15 years ago, I've been playing the Revolution Pro 98 +2,5 for quite some time. And still, every now and then I like to take them out on the court and let them have a good beating. But they are too precious to serve as my regular sticks. They both are in almost pristine condition, only a few minor scratches on the bumper. Great rackets, I really love them.

    I also own a Superform Speedmaster, that I bought at a flea market for a single euro. Not in the best of conditions, but for that price… Though, I have yet to play it.

    Pictures to follow.
     
  30. Dima1986

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    Hello,i use Fischer Pro Extreme 295g,string with Luxilon Savage Black,very beautiful raquet :)
     
  31. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Nice! And welcome to TT, Dima!
     
  32. Mig1NC

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    Guys, quick semi-related question. Does anybody know if the old Fischer employees, including racquet designers, still work for Pacific?
     
  33. Backhanded Compliment

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    Good question and pacific is bringing back 2 classic frames real soon. Very curious about the one Stich helped design.

    BTW add me (see sig)
     
  34. McLovin

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    So...after years with Pacific...to quote one Steven Tyler:
    After my failed attempt at transitioning to the X Force Pro No 1 (its a great frame, I just can't generate the swing speed needed to do anything with it), I decided to go back to my X Force Pros...except there was a slight problem: they are nowhere to be found.

    No BX2s anywhere, not even used on fleaBay, and who knows when the BXTs will make it here stateside.

    However...ironically...in my quest for the illusive X Force Pro, I came across its predecessor. Its true predecessor...the one that never made it stateside:

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    Now...this is the 295g version, but that's OK because its also 4 3/8, which allows me to add a leather grip, an additional overwrap (I prefer 4 1/2" grip), and some lead under the grip to bring it up to the 320g, 11pts HL unstrung specs of the regular version. I have two of them, brand new, plastic still on the wrapper, and if they work out, there's an options to grab two more.

    Sure, I could have picked up a couple BX2 X Force regulars and done the same, but they wouldn't have looked quite as nice. IMO, these are the best Pro No 1 PJs, save for the Kafelnikov Red/Silver ones from the early 2000s.
     
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  35. joohan

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    No "maybe".
     
  36. McLovin

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    Point taken. I have corrected my post...
     
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    I was joking but fair enough :)
     
  38. cocarrot

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    Hi McLovin, if these goat pj beauties work out and you would be looking for two more in 4 3/8 grip size just send me a PM. Anyway, they are so rare that it's a miracle that you managed to find them in brand new condition.. ;-)
     
  39. Hewex

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    Back playing after 5 years away and my go to racket is the M-Comp 95 which I play as stock. The comp feels like heaven to me, but I've hunted without success for a back up. I just recently ordered a Pacific X Pro Feel 95 since many here feel it's an acceptable replacement for the M-Comp. I also own a M-Pro:1 98, the 295 version.
     
  40. McLovin

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    As a past M-Comp user, I can tell you the X Feel Pro is close, but you'll have to add some lead to bring it to the 330g of the M-Comp. I think that was what moved me away from the X Feel Pro, because without the extra weight it lacked the plow the M-Comp had. But with it, there was no way I'd last a full set. My shoulder can no longer handle that kind of heft...
     
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    Thanks for the advice on the X Feel Pro. My buddy is a tennis pro and can help me make sure the two racquets match up.
     
  42. ModusOperandi

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    I love my Revolution Pro 98 +2,5. But since they're almost 20 years old, I'm beginning to worry about the grommets. While they are still intact, I'd like to ask you if there is a set of Pacific grommets that fit the Rev Pro. Any useful recommendation is appreciated! Thanks in advance.
     
  43. McLovin

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    Edited because I'm an idiot and can't read...
     
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    Thanks for the reply as well as your kind offer, @McLovin. But since you talked in Dollars, I assume you're from the US whereas I'm from Germany. Over here the supply for Pacific spare parts is quite good, so I'm sure I can get a hold on them quite easily.

    Anyways, I did a little research and this posting says that the Rev Pro +2,5 basically came from the Pro No.1 mold. Now, as far as I know the Pro No.1 is/was remade by Pacific as the X-Force Pro. If that's true, the grommets from the X-Force Pro should fit the Rev Pro +2,5 as well, shouldn't they?
     
  45. McLovin

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    Oops. My bad. I saw 'Revolution Pro +2,5' and thought of the Revolution Pro Classic 98 +1.5:
    So, if its cut from the Pro No 1 mold, then its highly likely its the same grommets as the X Force Pro. I have an old Fischer Progressor NT, which was an extended version of the Pro No 1, but only by 0.5" ('scuse me...1.5cm...or is it 1.27cm...), and it is clearly the same set of grommets as the Pro No 1/X Force Pro.
     
  46. ModusOperandi

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    I've never seen a +1,5 in real life, but I always thought the +1,5 and the +2,5 were the same racket except the length. But the posting I linked to above mentiones that the +1,5 Rev Pro is from the Vacuum Pro 98 mold. I dug out the old review to the +2,5 here, data sheet can be found here. If one compares especially the beam width of both models it becomes obvious that they're not the same. Didn't realize this before. Which means I do have to get a +1,5, no matter what! :)
     
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    Off topic question: how do you upload photos here? I tried directly from my phone and it does not work.
     
  48. McLovin

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    I don't think you can. The only way I know how is to upload them to your personal photo hosting site (e.g., photobucket), then wrap the URL to the image in '[' img ']' tags:
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  49. McLovin

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    If I'm reading that +2.5 spec sheet correctly, its not from the Pro No 1 mold. Either that or they entered its beam width is incorrectly. The Pro No 1 is 20/23/25, and that spec sheet says 24/23/25.

    Now, that doesn't mean the Pro No 1 grommets won't fit, its just that its not from the same mold.

    Oh, and I have a few Rev Pro 98 +1.5s PJ'd as X Force Pros (Pro Stock), so if you ever find yourself in this nation's capitol and are interested, shoot me a message. Like I said earlier...love them, just can't handle the heft for a full match.
     

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