the flexbars - do they really work???

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  1. jimanuel12

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    i went ahead and purchased one of the flexbars for tennis elbow, have not received it yet. i ordered the green one first, do they really help?
    wanted some feed back from people who have actually used them.
     
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  2. mikeler

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    I've been using mine for GE now for 2 weeks. It seems to be helping since I've been able to keep playing singles albeit with a 3/4 pace first serve.
     
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    It seems to be helping, once I started doing the exercises correct. I was doing them to fast. Once i slowed down I could tell an improvement. I also did a few other things as well. Like adding lead tape and making my racquet more HL. So could be a combo.
     
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    Thankfully, I haven't been bothered by golfer's/tennis elbow. But I definitely think my Flexbar blue works out forearm muscles in a different way than wrist curls/reverse curls. The rotational force is unique, and seems worthwhile doing to help prevent injury. I finally got my flexbar when chess9 posted he suddenly got elbow problems from one freak mishit. I would just as son learn from the lessons of others rather than have to go through every tennis injury myself.
     
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    Yes, it does work the areas in a unique way. In addition to the forward and reverse wrist curls, I'm also doing triceps extensions.
     
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    Flex bars! They taste any good? Do they come in a dark chocolate flavor?
     
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  7. dancemyth

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    Yes, the flexbars work. It's really not magical. The concept of "eccentric" exercising in order to rehab tendonitis is well-established. (this means exercising a tendon by starting with it contracted and then letting it extend under load). Google achilles tendonitis and you'll find that the best-established exercise for rehabbing achilles tendonitis is to stand on your toe on a stair and then lower your heel below the stair and to repeat this 100-150 times a day. This is exactly the same principle that the "tyler twist" uses to rehab TE and the "reverse tyler twist" uses to rehab golfer's elbow.
     
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    Any particular Brand for Flexbars?
     
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  9. mikeler

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    Thera-Band. Assuming you are a woman by your user name, consider the easier red or green ones and then work your way up to the blue ones. The main thing is that you don't want to feel pain doing the exercise. This is not a muscle group you are working, it is a tendon.
     
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    Thanks for the Info. Yes, 100% pure woman.
     
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    Haha. I think it will definitely help you. Good luck!
     
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    You can do the same range of motion with a dumbbell that does pretty much the same thing, but of course you have to remember to assist on the concentric range of motion and only allow the injured arm to do the work on the eccentric.
     
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    thanks to all who posted. i had read that they do help, once you have healed up a little.
    rehab time is about 2 weeks from what i have read, before you begin to feel the difference.

    rehab time?????
     
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    i saw on a previous post where you have been using the flexbar for about 3 weeks now, can you tell a remarkable difference?
     
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    I've played about 6 singles matches the past 2 weeks and I can say my elbow almost feels like it did after I took the cortisone pills in September (of course the pain came back a few weeks later). I probably mentioned in the other thread that I'm doing forward and reverse wrist curls and triceps extensions in addition to the flexbar.

    It's so cheap, just buy a red or green one to start out with. If it hurts to do the exercise just wait until you can do it without pain.
     
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  16. volusiano

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    I got TE last November from overuse. Got the green and blue FlexBar. Rested up for a few weeks and began doing the exercises with the green one while resting. Got back to playing in December when the TE was about 80% better. Kept doing the exercises 3 times a day even after resuming tennis. Now after 2 months of doing the exercises, TE is probably 95% better. Now if I feel a little sore on the elbow after a match, I'd rest and do the exercises the day after and I'm good to go the following day again for tennis. I can do the heavy blue bar with no problem now. The hard part about doing the blue bar isn't so much the stress on the elbow anymore. The hard part is to maintain the grips on both hands on the blue bar and not allow the grips to slip.
     
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    my flexbar can in

    my flexbar came in, i will begin to use it (the green one) and let everyone know how my progress is.
    i have had TE for 9 months now, it is better but not back to 100%.
    hope the flexbar helps, will let you know
     
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    The only day I don't use the flexbar is the 1 day I play after work during the week. That is because I have iced my arm down and by the time I get home and get settled in, my elbow is not fully warm so I'm afraid to do it. When I play in the morning, I always do the exercises that night.
     
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    Didn't someone mention that you can do the exact same exercise with a can of coke?

    I can't find the old thread anymore....
     
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    did the exercises last nite

    did the first exercises last nite, a little uncomfortable but no pain.
    after the exercises, a little pain in the arm, but it went away after a hour or so.
    will start out once per day, and see how it goes, then to twice a day and so on.
    i started out with the green one, my dr said the red one was going to be too easy since i had already been doing hand and wrist exercises for quite some time now.
    will keep you all updated.
     
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    I've been doing 3 sets of 15 at night. Not sure if there is any rhyme or reason to it, just convenience I guess.
     
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    When I'm home all day I do 1 set of 15 three times a day. If not I do 3 sets of 15 at night. I'm not sure if their is a specific guideline or not. Sometimes I'll ice afterward but for some reason when I ice it doesn't feel as good if I don't ice. I know odd.
     
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    I'm still icing afterwards. I'm hoping that icing may not be a part of my routine in a few weeks.
     
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    day three

    so far so good, no pain, a little uncomfortable at first, but seems to be getting a little better.
    been going from 2-3 times a day - 15 repetions.
    will keep you updated - so far - no ice needed.
     
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    I bought the red one and the green one about two weeks ago for my wife who has had TE since the summer. In this short time she has noticed a drop in pain. The red one seems to be working for her.

    A hitting buddy came down with it last week and took the week off but did a lesson today and now is in a good deal of pain. He is now icing it and will see his doctor tomorrow. I could give him the green one now, or should he wait until some of the pain goes away before he starts the exercise?
     
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    With this injury, you should be virtually pain free when you do the exercise. I don't think it would be a good idea to give him your flexbar just yet. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Glad to hear. I have not played since Sunday. Last night was the first night I did not use ice. Today was the first morning I did not use ice either. I play tomorrow, so I'll still ice directly after the match as a precaution.
     
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    day five - good so far, it is slow going, the arm is a little uncomfortable with the exercises, but not painful.
    i guess it will just take some time.
    when i start to play again, i am still going to use the elbow brace for a long time, maybe forever. i never want to go through this again, i would not wish this one anyone.
     
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    OK, thanks!
     
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    So would you guys recommend the green (medium) one to a male of avg strength? (150 lbs, 5'10) Or just jump straight to the blue (heavy) one?

    Hoping not to get one that's too easy or too hard and will last me for some time.
     
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    Is it Tennis Elbow or Golfer's Elbow? If TE, start with the green because the exercise is a little bit harder to do. I have GE and bought the Green and Blue. The green was too easy for me but I'm also stocky.
     
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    It's for TE..

    Also just wondering if you guys have any recommendations on where to buy the flexbar for the best price + shipping?
     
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    i meant to ask you, how long have you been doing the exercises?
    you started out with the green, i think?
    two days ago, AFTER, doing the exercises, the next day my arm killed me. it did not hurt during the exercises, but i laid off doing them again yesterday because the arm hurts so bad.
    is this normal reaction after starting the exercises?
     
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    I think I've had them for about 3 weeks, maybe a little longer. The flexbar rarely causes me any pain. The triceps extensions I do with the 4 pound weights in each hand were causing me a little pain a few weeks ago, but after a few reps everything stretched out and all was good. The forward and reverse wrist curls I do I never experienced any pain.
     
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    Six weeks after injury, I still get forearm pain in the GE area of my hitting arm after any kind of strenuous exercise activity, even running if you can believe that. I ice it for 20 minutes every day after exercise.
     
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    The best I found when including shipping was www.ptmart.com

    Looking at my receipt I paid $13.50 green, $16.50 blue and $8.61 total shipping for $38.61 all in. This was in late December.
     
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    I'm male 6' 195lbs and have both green and blue and use the green for TE. I do both the TE and GE exercises...which basically is doing the TE for the right elbow and then the TE for the left elbow...just for balance.

    I gave the blue to a friend to use. Its considerably stiffer. I could use it but I can do a full range easier with the green. I don't think this is something you want to try to max out the pressure on while you still have pain/tenderness. My elbow still has some tenderness, but is much, much better than it was. I believe it has been a combination of playing less due to winter, form correction and exercise. I plan to keep doing the exercises b/c I never want to go back to how it was.

    I keep the Flexbar right by my desk and do the exercises whenever the thought crosses my mind. I try to do reps at least 3x per day. I also use Therabands for my shoulder. I keep those hanging on a coat rack by the front door where I can quickly loop an end over the stair newel. The more in sight I keep stuff the more often I use them. We bought a treadmill at our old house and my wife wanted it in the bedroom, but we put it right in the family room! I knew that was the only way it would get used.
     
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    It's a good idea. I should put one in my office as well. Thanks for sharing. -Tina
     
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    Confused, Do Flexbar Before or After pain?

    So I have TE. It sucks. Took 3 weeks off, and still had a tough time at tonights clinic.

    I had started doing the green, but after the 10th or so, I had some discomfort. Should I twist right through the discomfort, or stop immediately.

    I'm afraid that if it hurts when I twist, I'm re-tearing the tendon.
     
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    NOOOOOOOO. If it hurts, stop immediately.
     
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    I tweaked my elbow last night. Throwing the ball out wide for a slice serve is still not something I can do. I only tried it once but that was enough! So I iced it last night. It was stiff this morning, which made me think about testing it with the green flexbar which I don't use normally. The first few iterations it was still stiff but it did stretch out and I was fine after that.

    I stopped wearing my air cast and have just been doing the compressive sleeve, but I think that is too tight for me. Once I took it off last night, my elbow felt much better.
     
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    Flexbar

    @mike - thanks.

    So there's just no rehabbing TE beyond ice and rest, eh?
     
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    I tried cortisone pills but kept playing tennis and my GE came back. A few months later, I tried ultrasonic and electrostimulation therapy. It took 10 sessions or so, but it definitely helped get me back on the court. I did not play tennis at all while I did that therapy.
     
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    i had to stop the green flex bar, it began to hurt my arm really bad, i have ordered a red one, will start out with it and go to the green after no pain with the red one.
    will keep you posted.
     
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    Dang that sucks. Hopefully the red one is a good fit for you.
     
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    when i started with the green one, i thought it was a bit too strong to start out with.
    but anyway, i should get my red one tomorrow and will start with it and work my way up to the green one.
    i am hoping that by the time the weather here is good enough to play, my arm will be in good shape.
    keeping my fingers crossed.
     
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    i would suggest 2 things to try. first, make sure you warm up your elbow before starting, sounds simple but it really helped me. i use the flex bar to warm up this way, hold the flexbar in front with arms extended, then forward twist the injured arm at the wrist (think of wringing out a wet towel). the second suggestion is to bend the arm at the elbow, this lessens the stretching of the tendon. i would just twist far enough until i felt a little pain, then i would back off that pain point and continue the exercise. in this way i slowly increased the stretching of the tendon over a period of several weeks and my tennis elbow pain is very slowly decreasing. i can now hold out my arms straight and do the exercise as demonstrated in the tyler twist video.
     
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    got the red flex bar yesterday and started with the exercises.
    did 3 times yesterday 15 reps.
    did not hurt this time, a little sore this morning but i think that is to be expected.
    so far, so good.
    maybe by the time this sucky weather is better, i will be able to play without pain this year.
    will keep you posted.
     
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    i meant to tell you that my arms are little (always had skinny arms) and i think i started off with the green one and it was too strong.
    hopefully i will be able to play without pain this year.
     
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    Gotcha. I have pretty big forearms. Back in high school I measured the diameter of my right forearm which is my playing arm. I forget what the measurement was but it was the same as Evander Holyfield!
     
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