The Girls in Doha

Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by Duncan Bell, Feb 12, 2013.

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And the winner is...?

  1. Vika

    9 vote(s)
    21.4%
  2. Serena

    17 vote(s)
    40.5%
  3. Maria

    5 vote(s)
    11.9%
  4. Aga

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%
  5. Kerber

    2 vote(s)
    4.8%
  6. Errani

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Kvitova

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  8. Wozniacki

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  9. Stosur

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Ivanovic, Petrova, Bartoli, A.N. Other, Date-Krumm, Stephens, Robson, Cibulkova....

    4 vote(s)
    9.5%
  1. Tennusdude

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    Isnt is Ironic

    Serena is number 1 something she hasnt been able to accomplish as often as she should have over the years. Yet Azerenka who hasnt lost a match all year and basically punished Serena over and over with strong groundstrokes and serves except for the second set when she faltered. But dont worry Serena fans Serena has excuses as usual. Poor Serena had a cold and probably other injuries because everyone knows Serena has never lost a match when healthy.
     
  2. kishnabe

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    Serena will still beat Azarenka most of the time. Azarenka had a real good performance like US Open last year.....she came through this time.
     
  3. cc0509

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    Not necessarily. It may be a fluke win but it may be just what Azarenka needed to turn this match-up around for her. Remember Azarenka is young and hungry.
     
  4. tipsytennis

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    I don't think it was a fluke win at all. Williams didn't play as well this tournamenr for some reason but i think Vika composed her self this match and tried to take control of her shots a bit more. Like you say though Azarenka is still young and Serena is only getting older so expect more upsets like this. :)
     
  5. Tennusdude

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    whoa, azerenka has two austrailian open titles and everyone puts her ahead of sharapova. how quickly they forget. hey azerenka was lucky, serena was sick, everyone knows serena never loses unless injured or sick.
     
  6. ktid

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    Azarenka has defintely convinced me, I thought her Australian open last year would just be like the other one off champions (Ivanovic, Schivone, Na, Kvitova, Stosur) but with her US open performance and her start to this year, she has proven she is good enough to be world no.1 kinda ironic that lost it after this tournament though.
     
  7. TERRASTAR18

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    we will see but remember this wasn't a grand slam. care bear and woz beat her too but do you see them consistently beating serena....to me she still has a couple of levels to go. like was today the start of great serving in the future or a fluke. she had like a 80% 1st serve percentage and won 79% of the points. and is her willingness to attack a consistent new wrinkle or something or just a 1 off against a flat serena. and in the first and third sets serena played sluggish as hell. it's a good win but to me i'm not buying it as a landscape changer.
     
  8. DRII

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    Did you all forget the Kivitova/Serena match that quickly :confused:

    Kivitova may be finding her game again. If so, she more than a competitive match for current Serna or Azeranka...
     
  9. powerangle

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    You forgot another recent big match (more recent than the US Open): the YEC 2012. Serena clobbered Aza in that one.

    Yeah, overall their matches are a bit closer. But the one recent win is a 3-setter. It's not like they haven't had 3 setters before (2010 AO, anyone?). Yeah the dynamic has shifted a bit...but not a lot. We will have to wait and see.
     
  10. hugobosstachini

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    Petra is just peddling on place. By the time Petra realizes she has been wasting her talent to seriously put herself to work then Victoria would have improved every facet of her game already and will be consistently defeating her.

    Petra has already lost 2 years, 2 years in which Victoria herself has totally put into profit and she just gets better and better IMO. Anyways, we'll see what Petra will do on the long run in 2013.

    Yes I forgot the YEC match. It was 6-4 6-4, not that bad. Victoria held a 3-0 lead in the second set.

    Yes they've already had tons of close matches on slow hard-courts, AO 2009 6-4 2-4 ret. by Victoria, 6-4 4-0 before Serena performed the come-back also in Miami 2009 where Victoria defeated her. Victoria is good player on this surface [...]

    I'm not so sure but I think Serena has declined on these. With the style she plays, first-strike, she prefers probably areas like Madrid, US Open and Wimbledon -- quick surfaces but it's been pretty much a long time since she's pulled a good result on these slow courts.
     
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  11. Soianka

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    I know you are trying to be sarcastic, but there is some truth to that statement.

    Serena has a TOTAL of 5 losses to Azarenka, Radwanska, and Sharapova COMBINED.

    That is really rather pathetic for Vika, Aggie, and Maria.

    Clearly Serena doesn't lose very often to any of the other top 4 players...perhaps the few times she has lost, she has been injured or ill.

    Otherwise, if these ladies could compete with a healthy Serena, they'd have beaten her more than 5 times combined.

    Serena certainly didn't look her best this tournament, but she competed well enough to beat just about any other player. Yet, Vika played very well in the 1st and 3rd sets and I was extremely impressed.

    Maybe it will be the beginning of a good rivalry. Hopefully, for Vika's sake it was not a fluke win. With a 2-11 record, it's not clear what this will mean.

    Serena could go on to beat her 9 more times in a row or we could now have a legitimate rivalry with trading of wins.
     
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  12. Tafmatch

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    It's only a matter of time before Aza regains the #1 spot. She's getting closer to Serena's level all the time and Serena's hasn't been looking too good this year. Besides Serena, who can really challenge Azarenka? I think Aza is severely underrated.
     
  13. Duncan Bell

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    The Pastel Harpy of Victori once again emerges Victoriaus !

    Her oscillating harpy cries during this match were enough for my soul to be sure of impending silver.

    Zlatarenka once again finds favour with the PSG gods; all hail QueenV!

    And now the scheming, evil ReRe has pinched her number one crown, and is disguising herself as RedFoo to attempt to confuse The Pedicured One, battle will once again commence as she opens her wings and takes flight to Dubai.
     
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  14. bezs

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    PSG Gods, haha nice one
     
  15. Dedans Penthouse

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    Are those two related? I notice a strong nasal resemblance.
     
  16. Duncan Bell

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    Are you talking about Renka and her trophy. If so, yes they are. The trophy is one of her Harpy Disciples that she has frozen in time for insolence (they didn't buy LMFAOs latest record). Renka can be gracious and loving but she is also a wrathful Renka.
     
  17. Dedans Penthouse

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    Beaka Veeka

    Good observation Duncan Bell.

    Two totally different cultures yet with identically unfavorable opinions of Azarenka.

    What does that say about Azarenka?



    :confused: --"I'm choking!!...TIME OUT!"

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  18. Duncan Bell

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    That the world doesn't understand her! The crowd is clearly entirely made up of Pharisees. She has come to show The Way, but people don't want to hear it. They haven't got ears to hear the wisdom in her cries...:)
     
  19. Soianka

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    I really hate that awful wailing she makes. It's hard to watch her matches and she has shown some poor sportsmanship at times.

    Still she comes across as a very nice, fun, goofy person in her interviews and in general besides the above.

    I actually like her. But it's so hard for me to watch her play because of that god awful sound.

    I really wonder if it bothers her opponents at all. Most don't seem to complain.
     
  20. MichaelNadal

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    This post makes good points.
     
  21. cc0509

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    True this was not a grand slam, so we will have to see if Azarenka can repeat this performance in a slam event against Serena.

    I will say this however, I have never been an Azarenka fan but she is starting to win me over because of her winning at all cost attitude. She had everything going against her at the AO but she managed to find the strength to pull off a win. Now in Doha, she came out and competed aggressively against Serena and pulled it off, something Sharapova has not been able to do to Serena in nine years!
     
  22. cc0509

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    You don't know that, this is your personal bias talking here. Kvitova should have defeated Serena in Doha and came very close to doing so. Kvitova played much better and it was only in the last few games where Kvitova choked it away. Kvitova has the talent(more talent than Azarenka imo) but she has to get her head together in order to win big matches consistently.
     
  23. cc0509

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    Players who can challenge Azarenka are: Serena, Sharapova, Kvitova and Li Na. That is pretty much it for now.
     
  24. Duncan Bell

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    What about Stosur?
     
  25. iri10

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    Azarenka eats Stosur for lunch. 0-7 H2H, and only one of them (the '12 US Open) went to three sets. Unless she does it again soon, I'll be considering that last match a fluke.
     
  26. Duncan Bell

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    Yeah, I was kidding :twisted: :) :grin:
     
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    Kvitova should have won the match against Serena, but she is not better than Vika by a longshot. Vika's movement and defense are light years ahead of Kvitova. Kvitova just goes for it and when she's on, look out.
     
  29. TERRASTAR18

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    point1- i'll say this when she shows up(both literally and figuratively) she gives serena a fight.....which can lead to a great rivalry which is great for tennis.

    point2- i give her this- she is no joke #1. she seems to have embraced being at the top. and she seems to be working on her game...
     
  30. cc0509

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    I agree but Kvitova's shotmaking ability and offense (when it is on) is better imo.
     
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    I agree with both of your points.
     
  32. Duncan Bell

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    Undoubtedly - Renka is a superior player, but Kvitova can hit some mean shots when she wants to.
     

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