The Greatest Spectator Sport On Earth 2013-2014 Thread (NCAA Football)

Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by rafafan20, Jul 28, 2013.

  1. r2473

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    SEC are football GODS, so when you start thinking about national title games, it makes no sense to have any other conference represented in the title game.

    So we know we will always have two SEC teams, but which two. Obviously, one has to be Alabama. In fact, the NCAA should simply adopt the old Wimbledon rules and just put Alabama in the title game by virtue of them being awesome.

    The only question then is, who plays Alabama? I think there should be a rotating schedule. LSU for a few years, give Auburn a shot every once in a while, heck, maybe even give Georgia a shot every tenth year or so. If a big name like "johnny football" comes along, give that team a few shots.

    Really, given the pure awesomeness of the SEC and the patheticness of all other conferences, this is the only fair way IMO.

    I've watched college football for a lot of years (like 5 years now), and I can't ever remember any other conference being any good at all. In fact, I don't even know why any other conference exists apart from the SEC. Probably just politics.
     
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    ^^^Mike Slive at his best! But don't OD on the bacon this Sunday morning before it's official there will be only an ex-SEC OC leading an ACC school vs. an ex-SEC HC leading a Little 10 bully in the title game.
     
  3. Kevin T

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    I'm glad you've finally come to your senses, r2. :)

    Though I am 100% sure that Bama, Auburn and Mizzou would all beat, nay destroy OSU, the lowly B10 is still one of the power conferences and if their champ is undefeated, they deserve a title shot. The Bucks pitiful strength of schedule looks really bad (not even top 50 last I checked), as well as their lack of a signature or heck, even a decent win. Mich St. has a very real shot at beating OSU but I would be stunned if Duke pulls the upset over FSU. If Mizzou beats Auburn, they will likely go to the title game but I doubt they are better than Bama. I can easily see the 'Noles putting up 60 against OSU's horrendous D and I just don't think the Buck's offense can keep up with that pace or the 'Noles tough D. I would love to see total chaos...Duke for the upset, Mich St wins and Auburn takes care of Mizzou. Iron Bowl rematch for the BCS title? :) Thank goodness this all gets solved next year with the playoff system. :)

    I would also vote Winston for the Heisman...hard to argue against his stats and undefeated record.

    Agree 100% with Soy's conference rankings. The PAC is looking better and better.
     
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    Urban will have his boys ready to play (as always).

    It is going to be sweet when OSU is national champs.
     
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    How can a Hawkeye fan be rooting for the Buckeyes? :shock:
     
  6. Kevin T

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    Well, Urban does have a chance this Saturday to beat his first AP top 10 team...in two years as OSU's coach. :) He's a great coach put great athletes make great coaches and that D is bad. Heck, I was there when lowly one-win Cal (the in-laws are Cal grads) moved the ball quite well on the Buck's D. Watching that game and the tight Michigan win makes me think they will have trouble with Mich St tomorrow, much less the far faster offenses of FSU and Auburn (or Mizzou). I actually have a soft spot for the Buckeyes, having lived in Ohio for 3 years, but they need another year or two under Urban, IMHO.
     
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    Dear Santa,

    Please have Michigan State (already with a loss) hand Ohio St. it's first loss. But have the game a really ugly, poorly-played mess that turns the pollsters off completely - leaving them not impressed with either team.

    Then please have Missouri, a team that's had some ho-hum wins beat Auburn
    (who has totally stepped in sh*t twice lately) but have them do so in ho-hum fashion that does not impress the pollsters to move Missou up past #4.

    Thank you Santa, I love you,
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    I'm sorry but I am so not feeling the love for that god-damn "cow college." Two lucky miracles does not a third-ranked team make.

    Play the Iron Bowl tomorrow, lend me your wallet, I'll go bet 'Bama and make us both a bundle of loot.

    Besides Clinton-Dix stupidly biting on the run-turned-pass play, 'Bama lost because A.J. ran outta time just before Sabin's FG brain cramp, otherwise McCarron finishes what he was in the midst of doing before they tried that ill-advised 57-yarder: moving the chains further and further downfield.

    In a perfect world: the above plays out to where "Bama plays the 'Noles.

    'Bama 3-peats over FSU, McCarron's girlfriend gets major on-air time, Mussburger at this stage of his career thinks: "the hell with the ESPN & Huffington Post P.C. phonies, I'm telling the world that A.J.'s squeeze is hot!'"....

    ....while the FSU trustees take solace in remarking post-game: "well, at least the Jameis Winston affair wa$ handled ....$$$....by the D.A.'s office in a right and proper fashion allowing us to play in this game after all....$$$......"
     
  8. r2473

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    Dear Santa:

    Please make the Alabama Crimson "we are better than you" Tide bitter about not being in the National Championship game (wait, I don't need Santa's help for that), and make them put in a half-assed effort in their bowl game, ensuring they lose, sort of like against Utah in the 2009 Sugar Bowl.

    Then, dear Santa, please have the NCAA come down to Tuscaloosa and see if there are perhaps (wink, wink) a few "improprieties" in the program. Please dear Santa, make sure Alabama then gets the "presents" they so deserve.

    As for the National Champion dear Santa, I don't like Ohio State any more than I like Michigan (http://www.partyschooled.com/randomness/56-random-stuff/163-ode-to-michigan.html), but I'd still like to see them win Santa, just shut up all the SEC bandwagoners.

    Thanks Santa,

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    Dear Santa,

    Thank you for having two of my favorite posters (DP and r2) arguing with me in this thread. I know DP has been especially naughty this year but what did you expect? I have but a few wishes this year:

    1. Let the BCS be thrown into chaos this year. To appease those in the Big 12, may Mizzou beat the socks off of Auburn. They always hated that "you couldn't survive a season in the SEC" talk and this would make their year.

    2. Let Michigan State throttle OSU. Urban can be pretty arrogant and this would be pretty good medicine. Besides, we all know the Big 10 stinks.

    3. Let FSU smoke Duke...well, we don't need your help for this wish to come true. Scratch this one.

    4. Let Mizzou beat FSU for the BCS title. This keeps the SEC streak going, appeases the 'told you so's' in the Big 12 and other conferences and keeps FSU from winning...I mean, NO ONE outside of alumni likes FSU, right? :)

    5. Let my Hokies go undefeated next year, win the first true playoff title and have Beamer ride triumphantly into the sunset. He's a really good guy but needs to go and what better way?

    Thanks a bunch, Santa.

    p.s. Leave extra Bourbon this year...Blanton's, if you don't mind.
     
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    This is SPARTA!!!
     
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    Urban Meyer LMFAO
     
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    Dear Santa,

    Thank you for my early presents today as I have been going through a rough patch in my personal life recently but pleasantly succeeding with a whole lot of perseverance...kinda like a parallel to my devotion to all things Garnet & Gold. After all, I began watching my Noles when the great Bill Peterson introduced the forward pass to NC2A football in the late 60's, then witnessed Larry Jones take us 0-11 in my final undergrad year in Tallahassee, kept my patience while godly Bobby Bowden slowly rebuilt us into an unprecedented dynasty and again saw us sink into mediocrity before we turned things over to The Great Jimbo.

    First, I began licking my chops after seeing Mizzou light up the scoreboard like a pinball score vs a very ordinary Auburn defense. I quietly wished and you granted the other big gift...please Spartie come through and expose subUrban for what he is (very ordinary) instead of what I had to hear he was (the modern day Knute Rockne) for his years up the road at the Reptile U of assorted felons and murderers. Santa, I only asked for that bcoz I knew my guys could manage the rest on their own.

    Now it has all come true and in Pasadena we will expose the SEC's best for what they are...better lucky than good far too frequently...and if it should be a close one, Roberto Aguayo won't miss the game-winner from anywhere inside 60 yards!

    GO NOLES!!!!
     
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    Michigan State channels Dennis Green (but they didn't let them off the hook):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDAq5tyfk9E

    Leaving Urban to channel Jim Mora:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7fjDS0jKiE

    Jeez, given the two teams vying for the National Title this year, I hope it ends in tie :cry:
     
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    ^^^wish won't happen r2 bcoz one team knows how to play "D" too!
     
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    Stanford/Michigan State sounds great, really looking forward to that one.
     
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    Last year in the buildup to the BCS Championship game we had to hear the "team of destiny" hype. Remind me how the hype compared to the result, Auburn fans.
     
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    Well, that OSU defense lived up to the hype. :) Now we only have to wait a whole month to see who's the best. Can Auburn slow down that FSU attack? Can FSU produce against better comp than the ACC/Bethune Cookman and Idaho? Can Jameis Winston stay away from the Tallahassee orgy scene for a month? We're waiting with bated breath.

    P.S.

    Look up the SEC's BCS record as the underdog and as one loss teams in BCS games (per The Paul Finebaum Show...hint, it's quite good :)).
     
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    We'll see but Auburn is lucky and good. Strength of schedule has been a good predictor the last few years and depending on the formula, Auburn is as high as #1 and FSU as low as #61. And that Mizzou running D isn't exactly chopped liver. Lately, the SEC winning the BCS has joined death and taxes as inevitable truths. Tough to bet against them and remember Auburn was a dog to Oregon and Fl to OSU a few years back.
     
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    FSU actually look decent this year. Anyone that thought the same for ND last year was delusional, the team got very generous calls throughout the season.
     
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    I reiterate my previous statement...only one team in the BCS Championship game plays both offense AND defense. I watched in entirety two games Auburn played this year vs A&M and Georgia. Their defense is worse than suspect but not quite as bad as the Aggies. Winston & Co. will light them up more than Manziel did and I know Joyner, Jernigan and Edwards will slow down the Auburn offense enough to provide a good cushion at the end.

    The SEC dominance will end this January simply because Jimbo has thoughtfully built a program with a Saban blueprint. Despite losing mega talent on the defensive side to graduation and early entry to the NFL draft, this year's group is even stronger. It was deep enough to allow a stud like Karlos Williams to switch over to RB. It was strong enough in leadership to not miss a step under a new coordinator recruited off the Saban staff after Stoops left to head coach at Kentucky. They played one soft half the entire season vs BC, regrouped and shut down the Eagles in the second half. The thrashing they gave Clemson on the road was the ultimate statement made by any team this season.

    Bama/FSU would have been a great game but I think FSU would have had enough to take that matchup. I am not in doubt at all who holds the crystal ball in Pasadena.

    GO NOLES!
     
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    Badgers/'Cocks headed here to Orlando on New Year's Day preceded that week by Canes/Cardinals...should be an interesting week in my neighborhood! Still surprised Mizzou isn't the SEC team in the Capital One game.
     
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    If Michigan St. hadn't lost to Notre Dame we would be looking at an FSU/Mich. St title game. I shudder at that notion.
     
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    r2, allow me to take it a step further: I hope they both lose :sad:



    Not sure why you'e dragging ND into it but since you did, you might want to consider the fact that there's a good chance that an undefeated Mich. State team (esp. after beating OSU) is probably playing FSU for all the marbles if it weren't for....ooops!....Notre Dame beating Mich. St. this year.

    As for ND '12, I don't know if you posted in last year's "College Football" thread but there wasn't much "delusional" ND-love and as a matter of fact there was a lot of personal emotion-based flaming of them. But that aside, there was this one guy though who pretty much nailed last year's BCS tilt:

    'Bama 37, ND 14.

    KT, any idea who that was? ;-)
     
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    From what I hear on ESPN, Auburn has some offensive weapons and playcalling that will be flat out difficult for FSU to deal with no matter what, yet the FSU Defense may be able to be efficient and disciplined enough to somewhat slow, but not stop the Auburn offense. FSU is also very dangerous on offense, with JW playing like the best player in the country. It should be a great game and FSU may be able to finally stop the SEC run on national titles, but a rout by FSU does not seem likely. This will be a big step up for FSU in talent, while Auburn has experienced the onslaught of SEC foes, including teams such as Alabama and A&M. FSU's athleticism will not be something Auburn has not seen. Yet, we'll see, that's why they play these big games!
     
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    I'm "dragging them into it" because other posters were talking about the whole "team of destiny" rhetoric from last year. And I didn't mean in this thread specifically at all.

    And seriously? You bring up a game where ND had two or three questionable calls in their game winning drive to prove your point?
     
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    FSU has already played the most talented team on their schedule in mid-October on the road and absolutely annihilated them. I would place Clemson's offensive unit on a par with any of the SEC teams. They had a fifth-year senior at QB in Boyd, incredible talent at WR and a potent enough offense overall to dominate every opponent they have faced except for the Noles. Again, I remind all of you, FSU's defense has had one bad half the entire season. Auburn may have a better running game than Clemson and one slightly better than the BC attack we struggled with for that bad first half. Adjustments were made at halftime and the Eagles were grounded. With five weeks to prepare, I suspect we won't see that long of a struggle on January 6.

    GO NOLES!
     
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    Oh, I remember well, DP. I hope you were in Vegas and playing the lottery that night. :)

    Agree with DP that people here and all over the media were bashing ND's right to be in the BCS title game. I can't imagine anyone who seriously follows college football thought ND would win that game or be a 'team of destiny'.
     
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    All very true Stringertom, but Auburn is very likely to be tougher than Clemson on offense. The weeks of prep is a very important factor though. Auburn will use that extra time to prepare for JW/FSU offense as well. I'd like to see FSU take this title now, beating Auburn and breaking the SEC streak, but we'll see how it plays out in that game. You take a bunch of young guys facing off in that huge game and you can throw out much of the analysis. It comes down to making big plays for those players during the biggest game of their lives.
     
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    Okay Stringer, I'm with you that FSU looks to be the better team and should be the favorite. But did you REALLY just say Auburn's running attack is only "slightly better" than BC's? The Auburn running game ranked #1 in the nation playing against some of the toughest D's in the country? The Auburn running attack that shredded Mizzou's 14th ranked running D?
     
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    Yes I did...Andre Williams has comparable stats to Mason's even without the added padding the SEC championship game provided. He is a rightful candidate for the Heisman with 2,100 yards rushing, 17 TDs and an average of more than 170 yards per game, scoring at least one TD every game save for one and again having over 100 yards in all but one game.

    As to comparing strength of schedule, please review Auburn's opponents...Washington State, Arkansas State, Western Carolina and Florida Atlantic are not defensive juggernauts. Their one loss to LSU shows they can be slowed down by a team with a scheme and the talent to execute. They did not exactly crush anyone on their SEC schedule with the exception of Tennessee. They looked strong versus a depleted Georgia crew for three quarters but had to have some luck when Georgia played strong "D" and gave Murray a chance to bring them back.

    We can debate this all day long but I think the most telling stat out there is point differential over the course of the season...there were no close outcomes in the Noles campaign and many times that outcomes were decided early enough to pull the first team and/or key performers. The PD shows strength on both sides of the ball. Winston gets a lot of the glory but Joyner, Jermigan, Edwards and the rest of the "D" crew made this season under the limelight a no-brainer in an undefeated outcome. Winston will probably point that out in his acceptance speech Saturday night!

    GO NOLES!
     
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    I can tell you have that special feeling when you know your team is having a great season and all things are clicking. You just know they'll win. I felt the same way when UT beat USC in the Rose Bowl behind Vince Young's out of this world performance. He knew that he'd lead UT to that win from about 5 minutes in. You could see it on the sideline there. You may be seeing some of that with Winston this year. They could pull it off and if they do it, they'll deserve the national title. Here in Texas, let's see if Nick Saban ends up going to the Longhorns.
     
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    Williams is a talent but look at that BC schedule...they didn't run over Villanova or Wake, much less the likes of GA, LSU, Bama or Mizzou and went 4-4 in the ACC. As for point differential vs SOS...remember Hawaii vs GA a few years ago? FSU is no Hawaii but point differential holds less water when comparing the ACC and SEC.

    FSU and Auburn have their share of OOC cupcakes but the conference
    schedules are the true test. It will be fun to watch (and talk :)) until the big game.
     
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    Can Auburn say they beat two (at the time) unbeaten top 10 teams by a combined 92-28? No, they eked out five wins in conference by 8 points or less. Not exactly dominating like the Bama, Florida, LSU and '11Auburn campaigns to the title. To annoint them with this mystical SEC supremacy tag is really getting old. They were beaten soundly by the one decent defensive team they played prior to November in conference. If you've seen FSU play defense, it might remind you of the so-called SEC superiority factor...we would play with anyone in the league and do significant damage to almost all. As I've said, Fisher learned with Saban and has taken his model, tweaked it and now has the beginning of a dynasty in Tallahassee.
     
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    No, but they did beat 2 top 10, 2 more top 25 and lost to a top 15 in the FINAL rankings.

    As they say, to be the man you have to beat the man. Nothing mystical about 7 titles in a row, 5 different schools with titles and a few with multiple titles, best BCS bowl record by far, most NFL draft picks, etc., etc., etc.

    By the way, I will be pulling for FSU and have watched them play many times this year (I played at VA Tech in the Big East days). If FSU wins, I hope they win big because my ACC has been down a while. I just can't get too excited until I see the SEC lose with my own eyes...sort of like the 'green flash' at sunset. :)
     
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    Very nice touch at the college awards banquet in honoring legendary St. John's (Minnesota) coach John Gagliardi. Now 86, he took his coaching spot at the school at age 26 and amassed 489 wins over his six decades at the helm. Players from every era he coached were present to honor him and his unique approaches to sustained success...just plain John ("Dont call me Coach") took his own route throughout his career that ended last fall. Do you believe they never used contact in practice...kept his players fresher and made them work on fundamentals of tactics. One great man!
     
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    Thread bump...apparently it's not the greatest spectator sport bcoz all us crazies let this thread get to page 3 despite a whole bunch of bowl games to discuss!

    Being in Orlando, I only hope the Gamecock/Badger matchup today is more competitive than the previous game here on Saturday...Louisville absolutely destroyed any good feeling Hurricanes fans could have held on to!

    Also, as the king of Noledom, I'm so happy FSU locked up Jimbo with an extension and a very healthy raise. Mommas don't raise up sign-and-runners around here. Jimbo will retire in garnet and gold and I firmly believe he will leave Tallahassee only to hang up his whistle.

    On a sadder note, pray for Bobby Bowden and his family...he lost a grandson to a foolish auto accident over the weekend. The grandson was a passenger in a car that skidded and crashed through an embankment and into deep water adjacent to the road in Winter Haven, FL. All but one perished and he was a surprising find for the rescue team.
     
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    The REAL national title will be decided early today between the mighty Iowa Hawkeyes and some nondescript team from the SEC football factory.
     
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    Don't eat too much bacon at breakfast this AM, r2...wouldn't want you to have to call 911 for help while the Bayou Bengals, a corn-fed lot at that, maul another Little 10 disaster in the making!
     
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    As a NYJets fan, I'm drooling over one player from the Capital One Bowl today...WR Bruce Ellington is NFL-ready and showed it on two pivotal catches in the 2nd half to help lead the 'Cocks over Wisconsin. Check out SC's top 10 tonight...I'm sure his redirected tip and catch effort gets plenty of airtime!
     
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    I don't know which team had the worst play calling, was it Duke, who could not run down the clock and instead decided to throw an interception in the final four minutes, or Stanford, the team that decided to run three straight times into a Michigan State team that stopped the run all night ?
     
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    The money factor in college FB is getting out of control. There used to be a difference between the college and pro's in that college teams only played 10 games and one bowl game if they were lucky.

    Now they play 14 games, with 2 postseason games in certain conferences.

    Very dangerous for the players, and it waters the season down, where there is an absolute premium on a victory in every game with a shorter season.
     
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    Thanks Santa :)

    I know you are working on this santa
     
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    Only one more rather large Garnet and Golden spike need be driven on Monday night to lay the coffin of SEC "superiority" to rest. GO NOLES!
     
  46. jaggy

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    I detest Urban meyer
     
  47. borg number one

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    Good luck to them. I'd like to see them take the title Monday night! Georgia and Alabama have lost. Now how about Auburn? Has the gap between the SEC and other tough conferences closed? It sure looks that way.
     
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  48. stringertom

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    Yes, the most disappointing loss of the year for me was Sparty's takedown of the Buckwheats, thereby depriving Jimbo a chance of drilling Urban a second anal cavity quite a bit larger than the 31-7 loss in '10 had created.
     
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