The GUSPOAT

Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by timnz, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. timnz

    timnz Hall of Fame

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    We have send endless discussion about the GOAT, who about a discussion on the Greatest US player of all time (men)

    Contenders for discussion:

    Tilden

    Vines

    Budge

    Kramer

    Gonzales

    Connors

    McEnroe

    Agassi

    Sampras

    There have been other great US players bUt i don't think i have left anybody out in the discussion of the Very greatest USplayer of all time

    Each one case for the top

    Tilden - 7 times year end world number 1. Most major titles of anybody on this list (15). Longevity - could still win the odd match against world number 1 (budge) at nearly 50 years of age. Great win loss record

    Vines - there could be a strng argument made that he was the greatest playerof the 1930's

    Budge - first winner of the grand slam - number 1 for 4 or 5 years (year end)

    Kramer - number 1 for 4 or. 5 years (year end)

    Gonzales - 14 majors (though more if you include winning pro tours and tournament of champions 3 times). Arguably world number 1 year end for eight years

    Connors - most titles in open era. 3 to 5 times year end number 1 (depending on who you talk to).

    McEnroe - 7 majors and 8 major indoor titles. 3 or 4 times year end number 1. (Only the atp list him as such for 1982 - when really he was number 3)

    Agassi - phenom. Of all surfaces - fast grass/ indoor carpet. to slow clay. Won all major titles open to him (except if you rate the grand slam cup)

    Sampras - amazing fast court player. 14 majors, 5 (or 7 if you count grand slam cups) major indoor titles. 6 time year end number 1


    Hard to pick - but my top 3 would be (in no particular order) - Tilden, Gonzales, Sampras
     
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  2. BobbyOne

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    Good list. I only miss Vines (arguably 7 years as No.1).

    I agree that Tilden, Gonzalez and Sampras are the greatest.
     
  3. RF20Lennon

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    I agree with your list!!
     
  4. Mustard

    Mustard Talk Tennis Guru

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    A lot of great players there.
     
  5. Limpinhitter

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    Good list. But, Ellsworth Vines and Tony Trabert deserve to be on it, IMO.

    PS: Maybe an honorable mention for Arthur Ashe.
     
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  6. timnz

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    Vines

    Those who said Vines should be on the list are absolutely correct. Don't know how i left him off. I have adjusted the original post to include him.
     
  7. timnz

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    Vines yes. But would you argue that tony trabert was the greatest US player, or simply one of the greats? I would suspect the latter.
     
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    Would anyone argue against

    that Tilden, Gonzalez and Sampras are the top 3 (in no particular order)?
     
  9. forzamilan90

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    Pete Sampras
     
  10. kiki

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    I agree with Tilden,Gonzales and Sampras, but the other 7 are very close to.Trabert could be there, too.
     

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