The HEAVY RACQUET LOVER'S CLUB

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by harryz, Jan 10, 2009.

  1. Shroud

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    Ha that is hysterical. I never thought of that but yeah I can see what you mean. Would some tournagrip do???:)
    Well thanks Lee. But there are heavier rackets mentioned in this thread; at least 2 that I saw.

    Its a good point you raise. People get wrapped up in equipment. Its the player that matters I think....or THOUGHT. See that green meanie is now 16.2 oz. I shaved off .05oz by skipping the crosses to produce a super open pattern. I wrote about it in the strings section. Long story short, I am simply hitting shots with that racket that I wasnt before the string change. Not saying that the racket is producing the spin and will help me move better, just that with a little tweak I am hitting more spin and consistency is improved.

    Truth be told before the string change the racket always felt a bit slow. I could hit with it but the lighter rackets were preferred. Certainly the swing weight is altered a bit due to the missing strings but it feels perfect now and well it seems like a racket that doesnt get pushed around AND can win more points for me. Win Win. I need more time with it but I think it is a winner. Though I would probably win more matches if I was 175lbs :)
     
  2. robbo1970

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    Yes, a tourna grip frayed at the top would look perfect :)

    Sometimes I think it is the smaller tweaks that do make a difference. I changed the grip on my Exo3 93 and it made a really positive difference to the way it felt for me. Similar, adding a leather grip to my Bio300 made it feel a lot better. But it is all about getting a set-up that works for the player. I found that upping the weight of the rackets I use has helped improve my technique and stopped me being lazy. I know that the weight of any racket is no excuse for poor technique, but I think I just needed a gentle kick up the backside...I guess I'm just one of the world's many lazy b@stards :)
     
  3. rosewall4ever

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    Q. how do you guys warmup quickly

    Hey all,

    Ive been using 85's & 90's mostly in the 120z +, but i was wondering how do you guys warmup for the for a hefty stick, cause it takes me a good 10min before i'm ready (hitting) - before that it just sprays everywhere. I play at night after work/study so my body needs to adjust after sedentary mode.

    How do you warm up quickly(perhaps even before getting to court) cause those i play with just don't like to warmup much and want to have a match quickly...


    thanks,
     
  4. AlpineCadet

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    Importantly, everyone has a different stroke mechanic and timing issue, but sw/strings/tension aside, YOUAREMISSINGOUTIFYOUARENTTAKINGADVANTAGEOFATWEENERFRAMEOMGHITOU.
     
  5. MauricioDias

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    The idea is to warm up a little more, if its not possible I use the first set to do it and start at about 60%. After you play a long time with a havier racquet you get used to it and its not necessary to do something different to warm up.
     
  6. PhrygianDominant

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    2x Völkl C10 Pro
    Static Weight: 356g
    Balance: 32cm
     
  7. McLovin

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    Agree w/ MauricioDias. Most of my play is weekday afternoons immediately after work. I'm a software developer, so basically I just sit in front of a monitor for 8 hours, then drive to my club (another 45 minutes sitting). Because we're paying for court time, warmup is usually a quick 5 min, so I've come to accept a slow start to my matches. I cannot tell you the number of times I've lost a set 6-1 or 6-2, only to win the 2nd by a similar score, or be down 2-5 and win it in a tie breaker.

    Not that my frame is super heavy (12.3oz w/ string/overwrap/dampener/tax/tag/title/tip), but as you get older it does take a bit longer to loosen up.
     
  8. movdqa

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    I just start with a relatively low swing speed and let the mass of the racquet do most of the work.
     
  9. Chico

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    2X Tecnifibre TFight 335 16X20
    1X Techifibre TFight 320 Vo2 Max + 15g (6g at 3/9 and 9g in the handle)
    2X Wilson BLX 6.1 90 Tour

    They are all around 355g, 9-10pts HL.
     
  10. rosewall4ever

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    MauricioDias, McLovin & movdqa thanks for the response..i guess its inevitable that it takes time and i should expect to lose games until the o'shoulder is well oiled....though sometimes i work my way from a lighter frame 10-11oz to a heavy frame 12oz.+..so long as they have the same balance its ok for me, since i dont like to tweak anything.. esp the serve departnent
     
  11. movdqa

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    On serves, I do a number of shadow-serve stretches before actually taking practice serves. I start by lifting the left-hand in a stretch, and then stretch the right hand with the racquet fully extended and then stretch in a backscratch position. I sometimes bend my legs into the crouching positions after this too.
     
  12. reds17

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    Count me in. I have a Head Graphene Radical Pro. After modification, 357 grams (12.6 ounces), 83.5 cm balance (32 7/8"), a 367 SW. Also have 2 Wilson six.one 95 BLX (2012 version), both in stock form except for an overgrip and a dampener. Also 12.6 ounces each, but only about 341 SW, so maybe they don't qualify.
     
  13. rdis10093

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    vouches for more control.
     
  14. Capulin Zurdo

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    Count me in! I'm accustomed to/prefer heavier racquets and I just love how heavier racquets swing through. I previously used a PS BLX 90 which was weighted around 13.4oz (379g) and now I use a PB 10 Mid just below 13oz.
     
  15. v-verb

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    Wilson Profile 110 - 13.4 oz strung.

    Hopefully this post isn't a dplicate
     
  16. Backhanded Compliment

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    This is something Id love to have some ideas on. I've always started slow... I often dig myself a hole down a break before my S&V and return game get fully dialed in... then once Im hitting on all cylinders it becomes fun. I've come back from 2-5 so many times to win it in a breaker etc (especially those players who arent as fit as I am). Problem is it is impossible to warm up that all important transitional game between back court and net in 5-7 minutes. I dont have a coach warming up my S&V.

    Yes my racquet is heavy spec but the real issue is I just dont get my game going until Ive played at least 3-5 games. I do jump rope etc before but nothing warms up S&V like the pressure of game play. The volleys themselves warm up easy...it is that transitional game that causes problems. Is there something I can work into thewarmup that works up that transitional game court sense that comes after a few games?
     
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  17. GregSV

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    Two Head Graphene Speed Pro (ltd edition, the black ones) currently at 356 gr and 9-10 points HL. Enough weight to become a member?
     
  18. GregSV

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    Hitting low volleys against a wall from at least 4 meters distance is a great way to practice the transional game/volley.
     
  19. Rubens

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    Only 11.93 ounces... BUT it's on a 27.6" frame. Am I in?

    EDIT: my argument: extended frames are usually made lighter to make up for the loss of maneuverability.
     
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  20. harryz

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    Nice to see thiis

    Happy that this old thread of mine is still kickin'. Time to update the member list:)

    Harry Z
     
  21. skydog

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    I am in. Four Pro Kennex Ki5 PSE's @ 13.2 oz a piece. Only mods are over grip, damper, and head tape.
     
  22. harryz

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    List update time

    Stay tuned...

    Harry Z
     
  23. speedysteve

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    I guess I'm in.
    All my frames seem to end up at 360+g or 12.8oz old units.
    I seem to like em best at this.
    I don't have shoulder tiredness issues in matches. I find these weights nice on my arm.
    Can club the ball ok and return heavy stuff that comes over.
    So stick with what I like is my motto:)
     
  24. gambitt

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  25. 1HBHfanatic

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    Count me in. Mine were upto 12.9oz at one point.. 12.5 now i think..
    got 6x k.blades
    i keep demoing lighter racquets and adding lead tape to them. Only to find that i get them to 12.8oz zone
    seems no matter what racquet i pick up. It will eventually become a war club.. haha..
     
  26. eagle

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    My racquets for life: Prince Tour Diablo at 12.5 oz
     
  27. Amalhotra

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    i play with a six one 95 with two overgrips, but its the 2010 version that has a swingweight of 338, so can i join the club???
     
  28. GBplayer

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    Would a pair of vcore tour 97 at 351g count?
     
  29. 1HBHfanatic

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    Yeah That's a pretty heavy feeling racquet if I recall correct

    Is that considered a box beam frame?
    What's the balance like?
     
  30. eagle

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    I'm not sure if it has been described as box beam frame.

    I believe it is 9pts Head Light.

    I've been using it most of my tennis years, so I'm used to the weight.

    I'm sure most everyone in this "club" feels the same way about their racquet.
     
  31. harryz

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    I did wonder if swordsmen had G.E and T.E from all those light and stiff blades:)
     
  33. Backhanded Compliment

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    not the same shock. I do know of saberists who have had problems. Samurai had correct technique ;)

    I suppose a few berzerkers had TE problems. "I cant berzerk this weekend, my tennis elbow is flaring up again..."
     
  34. MauricioDias

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    Everything I was experiencing stills valid but somethign changed...

    I have to tell you guys something. I was used to play with my KPS 88 using 52lbs/48lbs. After this time (form 2013 - 2015) I had to change my frames. My elbow no longger supports stiffer frames. Now I am playing with a pair of HEAD Radical MP modified with silicone and nails in the grip and lead tape in the head.

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    After the customization the frame weights are 13.36oz (0,379kg) and 12.80oz (0,363kg).

    With a larger head and more flexible frames my start was improved, my forehand and backhand are better, my serve and my volleys are really sad. I am workin in the serve now but it is not so easy...:(

    The only thing that makes me less sad about changing frames is that all the great players I like also did the same. Something was really difficult with these frames...

    Missing my KPS88s so much....
     
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  35. coolschreiber

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    I guess you can count me in -
    IG Prestige Mids - Leather grip+overgrip + 6 gms at 12+dampner
    IG Prestige MPs - Leather grip+overgrip + 5 gms at 12+dampner
    Great thing is they still don't feel cumbersome nor tiring at all to me.
     
  36. MauricioDias

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    Still adding? Head Radical MP 13.36oz :)
     
  37. Anton

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    Pure Control / Tour at 12.7oz...not sure about SW, 340-350? I just go by swing feel
     
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  38. BounceHitBounceHit

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    See my signature and count me in!! BHBH
     
  39. ringwraith

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    360g on a K90. When I used to play my blades, I played around 345g, but with the smaller head size I need atleast around 360g to be able to hit with a smooth swing and get some pace on the ball.
     
  40. Mac33

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    I have tested around 50 Tour spec frames over the last 5 years.

    Two standout for power,well above the rest.

    The Gamma 98 t------ around 12 ounces strung. It hits a particularly flat.penetrating ball. Downside is it makes a noisy ping off the string bed.

    You absolutely need a worm dampener with this frame!



    Today,tested the power of the Gamma against the most powerful frame in the world,the Solinco Pro 10. It's 98 size too but probably around 96-97 size.

    I have added 6 g to the hoop area from 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock with the Solinco and added another under grip as it only comes in size 4.

    According to my scales it comes in at approx 370-375g.


    I played against my friend today for an hour plus. We were swapping between the two frames.

    There is no comparison in power!

    The Solinco Pro 10 is the mother of all sledge hammers.

    Especially when returning a fast first serve or opponents hard shot.

    Downside--- against a slow pushed shot,you need a strong arm to generate decent RHS.

    This frame is absolutely amazing.

    At only 4points HL its easy to understand how it gets my vote for the most powerful frame ever.

    It's 68 or 67 rating for stiffness I don't agree with. With a worm dampener it feels more like 63-64.

    The feel of this frame is special too.

    Somebody has to test this frame out. It's the best kept secret in tennis.

    I use the yellow Yonex Tour string 1.2 at 48.

    This frame produces more of a very flat topspin shot than a true flat hit.

    Spin is exceptional.

    Never used a frame before that I can one bounce the ball into the back fence so often on my groundies!
     
  41. mrmike

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    Great racquet - probably the easiest on the arm I have ever used and it could crush the ball but I ended up parting with it since mine was 13.6 oz with overgrip & dampener. It was great for practice hitting, but I couldn't get much past an hour playing decent with it. I seem to always settle in with around 12.5 oz static weight.
     
  42. BounceHitBounceHit

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    I've got five KPS 88's in minty shape ready to ship. :) See the TTW for sale ads. :) Best, BHBH
     
  43. harryz

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    Who wants to take over?

    Six years since starting this thread and I'm ready to pass the baton. Am going on 52, have recuperated well from a major heart attack two years ago (heredity is a drag), and although my heart, mind and soul will always be with heavier frames, my body isn't any more and I am moving to an 11.3-11 oz stick with 320-325 static and swing weight. At least for now.

    The thread has its share of followers. Would someone please take over and update the member list?

    Thanks for keeping tha going fellas, and keep the faith!

    Best to all-

    Harry Z
     
  44. Rock Strongo

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    Oh my. Was finally ready to make my contribution and then I read your post. Terribly sorry about that and I really hope all is well with you now.

    I guess I could still contribute. Most all of my sticks weigh 350 grams+ but they are often so headlight that they swing very easily.
     
  45. GBplayer

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    Sorry to hear that, hope you make a full recovery.
     
  46. TennisCJC

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    Get a Volkl o10 295 or SG10 295. Tweak it with a little lead on the head and counter with handle weight to get balance you want. You could probably get to 320-325 static and SW and they are great frames. Mine are 330-335 static and SW with 4+HL balance after customization but I could lower the weight a bit pretty easily if I wanted too. These frames are solid and comfortable.

    Hope you recovery continues to go well and good luck on the courts.
     
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    Joining :) Sticks in my sig.
     

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